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England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:37 am
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:41 am
Because Capello picked him. Hopefully he's jumped off the 'Scotty' Parker bandwagon.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Danny Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:45 am
Doubt it. Probably because Parker's one game from suspension.Dan wrote:Because Capello picked him. Hopefully he's jumped off the 'Scotty' Parker bandwagon.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by ResurrectionRooney Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:45 am
Don't know why Carrick never gets a chance for England.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:45 am
I thought Barry and Parker worked well the other day (from what I saw) Both covered each other when one decided to go forwards. Playing 2 holding midfielders isn't such a bad thing and both are pretty comfortable on the ball.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Barton Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:46 am
Lampard is usually poor for England, but i'm glad he's replaced that average media whore.
Does my head in when people call him 'Scotty' as well.
Does my head in when people call him 'Scotty' as well.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Danny Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:46 am
Considering he hasn't played in the league yet, he was never going to be in the squad for these.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Don't know why Carrick never gets a chance for England.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:47 am
Danny wrote:Doubt it. Probably because Parker's one game from suspension.Dan wrote:Because Capello picked him. Hopefully he's jumped off the 'Scotty' Parker bandwagon.
Ah well. He'll be found out anyway once 'Arry gets the job.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Barton Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:48 am
"Not goin' with the flashy boots or stylish haircuts, proper hard working footballer Scotty Parker."
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Kuled Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:49 am
I'm guessing Cleverley isn't even on the bench again
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:52 am
England v Wales: Hart; Smalling Cahill Terry Cole; Milner Barry Lampard; Young Rooney Downing. Walcott (hamstring) and Parker drop out
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by ResurrectionRooney Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:54 am
Lampard is normally good for England, he's just played in a role that doesn't get the best out of him to accommodate other players.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:56 am
ResurrectionRooney wrote:Lampard is normally good for England, he's just played in a role that doesn't get the best out of him to accommodate other players.
Who, for example?
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:58 am
Gerrard.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:59 am
James wrote:Gerrard.
Other way round.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:00 am
No. If Gerrard doesn't fit in the middle then he takes up a position on the left (and is poor). Despite him being easier to replace than Lampard.
Cuts inside all the time, in the middle he doesn't cover Lampards natural game.
Cuts inside all the time, in the middle he doesn't cover Lampards natural game.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:01 am
Rubbish. Not getting into it because it's been done to death.
England have never used Gerrard right. Ever. End of.
England have never used Gerrard right. Ever. End of.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Steadman Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:01 am
Ramsey will destroy this puny midfield.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:02 am
Probably right, but when he is in the team he has a negative effect on Lampard.
And you cannot argue that Gerrard is easier to replace for England than Lampard.
And you cannot argue that Gerrard is easier to replace for England than Lampard.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by ResurrectionRooney Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:03 am
Dan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Lampard is normally good for England, he's just played in a role that doesn't get the best out of him to accommodate other players.
Who, for example?
Gerrard, and sometimes Rooney. When Gerrard is played on the wing or behind the striker, Lampard is used in a covering role - when Gerrard or Rooney is played as a second striker, they don't really track back, that's not their job, and when Gerrard is nominally played on the wing he drifts all over the place meaning Lampard has to cover Cole.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by ResurrectionRooney Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:04 am
Dan wrote:Rubbish. Not getting into it because it's been done to death.
England have never used Gerrard right. Ever. End of.
What do you mean? I thought Gerrard was the most complete player in World Football who can win games on his own from any position?
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by SpiritOfShankly Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:04 am
There was never a problem when Gerrard and Scholes played in the middle together, Then Lampard came along.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Danny Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:04 am
#England subs v Wales: Subs: 12. Stockdale, 13. Jagielka, 14. Lescott, 15. Parker, 16. Carroll, 17. A Johnson, 18. Defoe
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:05 am
ResurrectionRooney wrote:Dan wrote:Rubbish. Not getting into it because it's been done to death.
England have never used Gerrard right. Ever. End of.
What do you mean? I thought Gerrard was the most complete player in World Football who can win games on his own from any position?
If you're thinking that, obviously you aren't as intelligent as you make yourself out to be.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:05 am
SpiritOfShankly wrote:There was never a problem when Gerrard and Scholes played in the middle together, Then Lampard came along.
Never a problem? That is why they where so succesful with Scholes and Gerrard...
Oh wait.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:06 am
James wrote:Probably right, but when he is in the team he has a negative effect on Lampard.
And you cannot argue that Gerrard is easier to replace for England than Lampard.
Because he's never been used right. Had we used him in his best position, I'd pick him over Lampard every day of the week.
*Calm down Luke.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Kuled Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:06 am
Danny wrote:#England subs v Wales: Subs: 12. Stockdale, 13. Jagielka, 14. Lescott, 15. Parker, 16. Carroll, 17. A Johnson, 18. Defoe
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:06 am
Kuled wrote:Danny wrote:#England subs v Wales: Subs: 12. Stockdale, 13. Jagielka, 14. Lescott, 15. Parker, 16. Carroll, 17. A Johnson, 18. Defoe
?
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Ricardo Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:07 am
The facepalm might have something to do with the fact that the bench is fucking terrible.
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Re: England v Wales | Euro 2012 Qualifier | ITV1 | 19:45 KO
by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:08 am
Dan wrote:James wrote:Probably right, but when he is in the team he has a negative effect on Lampard.
And you cannot argue that Gerrard is easier to replace for England than Lampard.
Because he's never been used right. Had we used him in his best position, I'd pick him over Lampard every day of the week.
*Calm down Luke.
For Liverpool yes, but not for England. There is no other English player like Lampard whereas Gerrard there are lesser players like Milner and Parker that fill in for Gerrard easily (with fairly similar games when Gerrard is played in the middle)
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