Where would the World be without the UK and the US?

Mustangt125 wrote:Well you clearly know nothing about world war 2 so I'll stop right here.

I know plenty about World War II sunshine, the reason Germany lost was that they couldn't beat the USSR and the British Empire, the US intervention only prevented further soviet expansion once the war was won.

I hate it when yanks play the "We saved you in two world wars!" card.

Yeah, thanks for coming in after our country had been fucked by the Luftwaffe, after we prevented a German invasion, and just as we had started to push the Germans in the opposite direction. They just came in and took over as our armed forces were tired after 5 years of being bettered by German, Itallian and Japanese troops all over the globe. We could have finished Germany without the help of America, easily. Don't get me started on the First World War. America didn't even get involved for our sake, a few of their ships got hit and they were scared of Mexico attacking them. The US came in for the final year when the war was pretty much drawing to a close. They then have the cheek to fuck up the future of Europe (see the League of Nations).

But yeah, thanks.

Cadbury wrote:I hate it when yanks play the "We saved you in two world wars!" card.

Yeah, thanks for coming in after our country had been fucked by the Luftwaffe, after we prevented a German invasion, and just as we had started to push the Germans in the opposite direction. They just came in and took over as our armed forces were tired after 5 years of being bettered by German, Itallian and Japanese troops all over the globe. We could have finished Germany without the help of America, easily. Don't get me started on the First World War. America didn't even get involved for our sake, a few of their ships got hit and they were scared of Mexico attacking them. The US came in for the final year when the war was pretty much drawing to a close. They then have the cheek to fuck up the future of Europe (see the League of Nations).

But yeah, thanks.

You're just angry about Hicks and Gillet.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Cadbury wrote:I hate it when yanks play the "We saved you in two world wars!" card.

Yeah, thanks for coming in after our country had been fucked by the Luftwaffe, after we prevented a German invasion, and just as we had started to push the Germans in the opposite direction. They just came in and took over as our armed forces were tired after 5 years of being bettered by German, Itallian and Japanese troops all over the globe. We could have finished Germany without the help of America, easily. Don't get me started on the First World War. America didn't even get involved for our sake, a few of their ships got hit and they were scared of Mexico attacking them. The US came in for the final year when the war was pretty much drawing to a close. They then have the cheek to fuck up the future of Europe (see the League of Nations).

But yeah, thanks.

You're just angry about Hicks and Gillet.

And that.

Jord wrote:Well without the UK there would be no Telephone, Lightbulb, Television, Submarines, etc. Fuck the US without the UK the rest of the world would of been fucked. I suppose it's our fault you're there though, since we found you. Then you went and created obesity and terrorism and pretty much butchered the English language.

Not sure if all those inventions wouldn't be later invented in some other country. Other countries have their fair share of intelligent people, inventors, genuises etc.. I'm sure they would of been invented by someone sooner or later. This includes American inventions. There's no way of really proving that though.

Anyways, this is a hypothetical question and your going to be given hypothetical answers. The course of history would of been much different without the existence of the UK and the US. I'll give you that. Would the world of been better or worse in the long run, I can't say. I'm sure some other hypothetical country would of taken the place of the U.S. in North America and some European country taking the place of the UK and history would have gone down a similar course.

Anyways, I like how this is turning into a UK vs. US thread.

GK01 wrote:Australia would be fucked.

Australia would have been dutch.

I think a Dutch Australia > British Australia.

Mustangt125 wrote:

Jord wrote:Well without the UK there would be no Telephone, Lightbulb, Television, Submarines, etc. Fuck the US without the UK the rest of the world would of been fucked. I suppose it's our fault you're there though, since we found you. Then you went and created obesity and terrorism and pretty much butchered the English language.

Knew one of you mongs would turn this into a vs. USA thread.

Little brother syndrome. You would also be speaking German without us, bitch.

My God the little brother syndrome some of you have toward the US is amazing. We're on your fucking team!

Don't take all that seriously Mustangt

polska. wrote:

GK01 wrote:Australia would be fucked.

Australia would have been dutch.

I think a Dutch Australia > British Australia.

You just hate anything British.

Polska is as American as he is Polish

The thing is without the US getting involved, England would not have been successful on their own in North Africa, thus would have never taken Europe. They could never have landed alone in France, and they could have never taken France. That's a two pronged American attack helping the British and forcing Germany to keep even more troops on the western front.

The outcome would have been totally different for Europe.

Sunshine.

Dutch = Awesome.

British = Boring.

That is all.

Imagine an Australia were maryjuana is illegal.

polska. wrote:Dutch = Awesome.

British = Boring.

That is all.

Imagine an Australia were maryjuana is illegal.

Meh being awesome is overated

polska. wrote:Dutch = Awesome.

British = Boring.

That is all.

Imagine an Australia were maryjuana is illegal.

Then why do your lot continuously flock to the UK every year just to clean some fucking cars!

Mustangt125 wrote:The thing is without the US getting involved, England would not have been successful on their own in North Africa, thus would have never taken Europe. They could never have landed alone in France, and they could have never taken France. That's a two pronged American attack helping the British and forcing Germany to keep even more troops on the western front.

The outcome would have been totally different for Europe.

Sunshine.

What? .

The American's contribution to the campaign in Africa was very low. By the time you came in, British Commonwealth forces already had Italian and German forces on the back foot. The American's really focused on the invasion of Italy.

Cadbury wrote:

Mustangt125 wrote:The thing is without the US getting involved, England would not have been successful on their own in North Africa, thus would have never taken Europe. They could never have landed alone in France, and they could have never taken France. That's a two pronged American attack helping the British and forcing Germany to keep even more troops on the western front.

The outcome would have been totally different for Europe.

Sunshine.

What? .

The American's contribution to the campaign in Africa was very low. By the time you came in, British Commonwealth forces already had Italian and German forces on the back foot. The American's really focused on the invasion of Italy.

And us Poles had to take Monte Casino after both of you guys failed.. badly...

Nobody cares about Poland.

If it weren't for the UK, thousands of Poles would be without a home.

Cadbury wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Hitler would never have been born without the existence of the UK and US, and if by some fluke he had, he certainly would have never come to power, because there'd have been no World War to start with.

A big question in this is geographical, how do they cease to exist? Are they replaced with a big sea where the countries used to be? If so, when does this take place?

Hitler also picked up his anti-semitism from a British guy.

Wrong, it was the mayor of Vienna while he was growing up.

SBSP wrote:If it weren't for the UK, thousands of Poles would be without a home.

Most Poles in England have a house in Poland anyway.

We would have been Dutch Polska, don't know if they could do what America and the UK have done for us with stopping invasions during war though.

GK01 wrote:We would have been Dutch Polska, don't know if they could do what America and the UK have done for us with stopping invasions during war though.

Good point, you could've been a Japanese-Dutch Hybrid.