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    Post by Coatsy Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:39 am

    Does anyone know the alleged incentives on top of the initial £6m for Cahill?
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:39 am

    BladeGunner14 wrote:Someone suggested way back that Wenger could be thinking about a formation change, one that is similar to the one used in 2003/04. I guess it would look something like this:

    Gervinho-Song-Wilshere-Hazard
    van Persie
    Walcott

    Thoughts?

    To be frank, it's exactly the same as:

    Song - Wilshere
    Gervinho - van Persie - Hazard
    Walcott

    It's just different on paper.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:39 am

    Coatsy wrote:Does anyone know the alleged incentives on top of the initial £6m for Cahill?

    Apparently it added up to £10m
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:39 am

    Song imo, would be the weak link.
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:39 am

    Coatsy wrote:Does anyone know the alleged incentives on top of the initial £6m for Cahill?

    +£4m.. All paper talk though.
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    Post by blackskar Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:40 am

    BladeGunner14 wrote:Someone suggested way back that Wenger could be thinking about a formation change, one that is similar to the one used in 2003/04. I guess it would look something like this:

    Gervinho-Song-Wilshere-Hazard
    van Persie
    Walcott

    Thoughts?

    Prepare for slating for putting Walcott upfront.
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:40 am

    justaddfinesse wrote:Song imo, would be the weak link.

    M'vila. shifty
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:41 am

    Mal wrote:
    justaddfinesse wrote:Song imo, would be the weak link.

    M'vila. shifty


    Is he more of an Essien? If so.. then yes.
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    Post by blackskar Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:41 am

    Mal wrote:
    justaddfinesse wrote:Song imo, would be the weak link.

    M'vila. Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 24 279869

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    Post by Jord Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:42 am

    Mal wrote:
    Jord wrote:Mal I've asked this about three times now Laughing Who's the bitch in your ava!

    I've answered twice, Jord. Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 24 33592

    It's Holly Peers. Stunning. Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 24 984708
    Oh, my apologies. shifty
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:42 am

    arsenalap11 wrote:
    BladeGunner14 wrote:Someone suggested way back that Wenger could be thinking about a formation change, one that is similar to the one used in 2003/04. I guess it would look something like this:

    Gervinho-Song-Wilshere-Hazard
    van Persie
    Walcott

    Thoughts?

    To be frank, it's exactly the same as:

    Song - Wilshere
    Gervinho - van Persie - Hazard
    Walcott

    It's just different on paper.

    The wingers would have more defensive work with Wilshere pushing forward a la Vieira.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:43 am

    Wenger said: “That number is wrong, it is completely wrong. I believe every negotiation is between two parties and you only have to sell the player if you are all right with the price.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:44 am

    BladeGunner14 wrote:
    arsenalap11 wrote:
    BladeGunner14 wrote:Someone suggested way back that Wenger could be thinking about a formation change, one that is similar to the one used in 2003/04. I guess it would look something like this:

    Gervinho-Song-Wilshere-Hazard
    van Persie
    Walcott

    Thoughts?

    To be frank, it's exactly the same as:

    Song - Wilshere
    Gervinho - van Persie - Hazard
    Walcott

    It's just different on paper.

    The wingers would have more defensive work with Wilshere pushing forward a la Vieira.

    Well in the formation we play already, when Walcott plays he does his fair share of defending and tracking back, so it's not really the formation, it's more the players.

    In the formation we play already, Wilshere can get forward too, it just depends on what Song does and if he sits or not.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:45 am

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    Post by Coatsy Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:46 am

    I don't think a total of £10m is 'derisory' although it is obviously a little low really anyway hope we can come to a decent deal pray
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:46 am

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11670_7126664,00.html

    Linked with Elia.

    Hmm.. he's good but i'd much rather Hazard. We'll see what happens.

    I'd like us to sign Ruiz, and play him on the right, Gervinho on the left, and van Persie upfront. That way, RvP can drop deeper, and feed those two who can cut in or he can go further foward and link up with them.

    Ideally it would be Hulk but that won't happen.


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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:46 am

    arsenalap11 wrote:Maybe he missed a 1 off the front of the 6 Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 24 279869

    I think a decimal point off the front of the 6 is more likely.
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:47 am

    Bolton will sell Cahill. Wenger is a smart cunt, we know that.

    Cahill has to be sold before the 31st August or he can just sign a pre-contract agreement with any club in January, without Bolton's say so. Will they really want to lose him for free like they did with Elmander?
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:49 am

    Mal wrote:Bolton will sell Cahill. Wenger is a smart cunt, we know that.

    Cahill has to be sold before the 31st August or he can just sign a pre-contract agreement with any club in January, without Bolton's say so. Will they really want to lose him for free like they did with Elmander?

    It's true, but the risk is if City come in for him we're screwed. Don't think any other big clubs want a CB so it's basically between us or them. Maybe Spurs.
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:50 am

    So the players we're linked with:

    Jagielka
    Cahill
    M'vila
    Hazard
    Elia
    Lucho Gonzalez
    Kaka Laughing
    L'Equipe seem to think Cissokho too.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:50 am

    City need a CB.. so i wouldnt doubt it if they swoop in and get him. No idea why they havent yet.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:51 am

    Mal wrote:So the players we're linked with:

    Jagielka
    Cahill
    M'vila
    Hazard
    Elia
    Lucho Gonzalez
    Kaka Laughing
    L'Equipe seem to think Cissokho too.

    Yea i've seen that. I think we'll wait till Jan to sign a LB if we get one though. Plus he's now cup tied for the CL.
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:51 am

    Another thing. Wenger is being very open about his Cahill bid. Is he making Everton take note that we will sign another centre back, so they should sell Jagielka, quick? shifty


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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:52 am

    justaddfinesse wrote:City need a CB.. so i wouldnt doubt it if they swoop in and get him. No idea why they havent yet.

    I think they will.

    But they have Kompany, Lescott, Toure, Onouha and Savic. I think it depends on if they sell/loan Onouha or not.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:53 am

    Toure is able to play again?
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    Post by Mal Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:54 am

    justaddfinesse wrote:Toure is able to play again?

    In 2 or 3 weeks.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:54 am

    justaddfinesse wrote:Toure is able to play again?

    End of the month I think, maybe next month. I read he's training again full time.
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    Post by Steadman Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:55 am

    Mal wrote:So the players we're linked with:

    Jagielka
    Cahill
    M'vila
    Hazard
    Elia
    Lucho Gonzalez
    Kaka Laughing
    L'Equipe seem to think Cissokho too.
    Mikel Arteta and Marvin Martin as well.
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    Post by arsenalap11 Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:57 am

    Out of those, I really don't want us to sign Jagielka or Arteta. Also, I like Martin but it's a risk and we can't take a big risk atm. Also not really keen on Elia but meh.

    Also, the more I think about it, the more i'd like Ruiz but it won't happen even though he'd jump to sign for us and wouldn't be that expensive. He's built for the PL too and would give us something different on the wing, rather then just pace.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:59 am

    arsenalap11 wrote:Out of those, I really don't want us to sign Jagielka or Arteta. Also, I like Martin but it's a risk and we can't take a big risk atm. Also not really keen on Elia but meh.

    Also, the more I think about it, the more i'd like Ruiz but it won't happen even though he'd jump to sign for us and wouldn't be that expensive. He's built for the PL too and would give us something different on the wing, rather then just pace.

    I want Martin for some reason. He just seems a natural replacement for Fabregas, especially with his assist stats.

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