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    Is Silva the best midfielder in the league?

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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:36 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    facepalm

    Who is more effective for City? Silva or De Jong - Both.
    Who would you want in your team? Silva or De Jong - Silva, I already said that.
    Who has better all round footballing ability? Silva or De Jong - Silva

    Answer those questions, I fucking dare you

    Only one of those questions are relevant to an actual midfielder, and thats the first one. The other two come down to actual players, it has nothing to do with the fact they are midfielders.

    The actual players are actual midfielders believe it or not

    You're not intelligent, just remember that
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:37 am

    dena wrote:Charles Graham Adam perhaps?

    not worthy
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:38 am

    Marvin wrote:I don't see why it's so hard to understand what he is trying to say.


    Fonseca wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    facepalm

    Who is more effective for City? Silva or De Jong - Both.
    Who would you want in your team? Silva or De Jong - Silva, I already said that.
    Who has better all round footballing ability? Silva or De Jong - Silva

    Answer those questions, I fucking dare you

    Only one of those questions are relevant to an actual midfielder, and thats the first one. The other two come down to actual players, it has nothing to do with the fact they are midfielders.

    The actual players are actual midfielders believe it or not

    You're not intelligent, just remember that

    Dear fuckin god your dumb....
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:38 am

    Marvin wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    Oh my god you're actually pushing it

    Silva has more ability and overall better attributes to Muamba and De jong as a player and as a frickin midfielder. However there's also the case of who's more effective in their team and who you'd want in your team, again you'll find it's Silva all day every fucking day.

    Would you like to pretend to be clever again or is that it?

    Comparing midfielders, you have to take into account their jobs for the team, could Silva do what De Jong does no, could De Jong do what Silva does? No. Therefore as midfielders (which you said) they are not comparable. As players (you never said) people would take Silva over de Jong.

    facepalm

    Who is more effective for City? Silva or De Jong
    Who would you want in your team? Silva or De Jong
    Who has better all round footballing ability? Silva or De Jong

    Answer those questions, I fucking dare you
    I don't see why it's so hard to understand what he is trying to say.

    As for Silva being the best, I'm going to need more than one good season before I call him that.

    I understand what he's trying to say, he's trying to state that you can't compare them because they do different roles. However the difference in quality and effectiveness between De Jong and Silva is so big that they are easily comparable

    It's like talking to Arise
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    Post by Jamie Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:38 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Essien and van der Vaart?

    Fuck. That. T. B. H.
    Put your top 5.

    Silva, Modric, Nasri, De Jong, no one else top quality
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:39 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    I understand what he's trying to say, he's trying to state that you can't compare them because they do different roles. However the difference in quality and effectiveness between De Jong and Silva is so big that they are easily comparable

    It's like talking to Arise

    facepalm

    If you want to compare quality and effectiveness, then remove the word midfielder from the topic.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:40 am

    Jamie wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Essien and van der Vaart?

    Fuck. That. T. B. H.
    Put your top 5.

    Silva, Modric, Nasri, De Jong, no one else top quality
    Wilshere is imo.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:40 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Marvin wrote:I don't see why it's so hard to understand what he is trying to say.


    Fonseca wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    facepalm

    Who is more effective for City? Silva or De Jong - Both.
    Who would you want in your team? Silva or De Jong - Silva, I already said that.
    Who has better all round footballing ability? Silva or De Jong - Silva

    Answer those questions, I fucking dare you

    Only one of those questions are relevant to an actual midfielder, and thats the first one. The other two come down to actual players, it has nothing to do with the fact they are midfielders.

    The actual players are actual midfielders believe it or not

    You're not intelligent, just remember that

    Dear fuckin god your dumb....

    A guy answers a question and by majority it reflects Silva as the most favored yet he still has the ballbag to state they're not comparable despite Silva being better in every moronic class you can come up with

    Spare me
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    Post by Jamie Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:41 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Essien and van der Vaart?

    Fuck. That. T. B. H.
    Put your top 5.

    Silva, Modric, Nasri, De Jong, no one else top quality
    Wilshere is imo.

    Wilshere is better than Barcelona because he got MOTM without actually being MOTM. Apart from that, no. Not yet, I'm sure he will be soon though.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:42 am

    Fonseca wrote:

    A guy answers a question and by majority it reflects Silva as the most favored yet he still has the ballbag to state they're not comparable despite Silva being better in every moronic class you can come up with

    Spare me

    Silva is better in every class ok..

    Put Silva on front of the back four and let him tackle, hassle and chase the ball like De Jong, fuckin hell its like talking to a brick wall. :wall2:
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    Post by Jamie Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:44 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    A guy answers a question and by majority it reflects Silva as the most favored yet he still has the ballbag to state they're not comparable despite Silva being better in every moronic class you can come up with

    Spare me

    Silva is better in every class ok..

    Put Silva on front of the back four and let him tackle, hassle and chase the ball like De Jong, fuckin hell its like talking to a brick wall. :wall2:

    You're wrong here, not Fonseca.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:45 am

    Jamie wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    A guy answers a question and by majority it reflects Silva as the most favored yet he still has the ballbag to state they're not comparable despite Silva being better in every moronic class you can come up with

    Spare me

    Silva is better in every class ok..

    Put Silva on front of the back four and let him tackle, hassle and chase the ball like De Jong, fuckin hell its like talking to a brick wall. :wall2:

    You're wrong here, not Fonseca.

    Ofcourse I am.
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    Post by BigAndy9 Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:46 am

    Anderson is the best midfielder in the league, if not world
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    Post by Lux Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:46 am

    Both are midfielders, both play in midfield. Silva is better.


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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:47 am

    Lux wrote:Both are midfielders, both play in midfield. Both Silva is better.

    Both have different roles, both are different players. If he wants to judge quality and effectiveness then remove the word midfielder from the topic.
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    Post by Lux Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:48 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Lux wrote:Both are midfielders, both play in midfield. Both Silva is better.

    Both have different roles, both are different players. If he wants to judge quality and effectiveness then remove the word midfielder from the topic.

    No, both are midfielders.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:50 am

    Lux wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Lux wrote:Both are midfielders, both play in midfield. Both Silva is better.

    Both have different roles, both are different players. If he wants to judge quality and effectiveness then remove the word midfielder from the topic.

    No.

    Exactly..
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:52 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    A guy answers a question and by majority it reflects Silva as the most favored yet he still has the ballbag to state they're not comparable despite Silva being better in every moronic class you can come up with

    Spare me

    Silva is better in every class ok..

    Put Silva on front of the back four and let him tackle, hassle and chase the ball like De Jong, fuckin hell its like talking to a brick wall. :wall2:

    Oh dear god

    You said he isn't comparable because of the different jobs they do (Genius identification there), I said the difference in class is so great that you can easily identify who's better. Then you decided to be literal about it and state that De Jong has his benefits for the team which makes him important. I ask you 3 simplistic questions on who's more effective, who's got more ability and who you'd want in your team. Your answers favour my general point on who's the player you'd choose then you go back to the point that they're different players and that De Jong is better defensively.

    Do I have to write that in caveman orrr?
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:53 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Lux wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Lux wrote:Both are midfielders, both play in midfield. Both Silva is better.

    Both have different roles, both are different players. If he wants to judge quality and effectiveness then remove the word midfielder from the topic.

    No.

    Exactly..

    Now you're contradicting yourself rofl
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:57 am

    :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.
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    Post by Lux Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:58 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote: :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.

    facepalm

    Midfielder is a loose term. Taking ALL attributes a midfield needs into consideration, Silva is better than De Jong. All of this, despite De Jong being better defensively....Silva is the better midfielder.

    De Jong being better defensively doesn't make them incomparable. It just means you need to use brain power to compute that Silva's other qualities make him better than De Jong despite his shortcomings
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    Post by Sean Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:00 am

    Jamie wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Essien and van der Vaart?

    Fuck. That. T. B. H.
    Put your top 5.

    Silva, Modric, Nasri, De Jong, no one else top quality

    Its top 5 midfielders though, not name 5 midfielders who are top quality...
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:02 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote: :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.

    Fonseca wrote:I said the difference in class is so great that you can easily identify who's better.

    No I understood, you just forgot how to read when I stated this ages ago
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:02 am

    Lux wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote: :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.

    facepalm

    Midfielder is a loose term. Taking ALL attributes a midfield needs into consideration, Silva is better than De Jong. All of this, despite De Jong being better defensively....Silva is the better midfielder.

    De Jong being better defensively doesn't make them incomparable. It just means you need to use brain power to compute that Silva's other qualities make him better than De Jong despite his shortcomings

    Ok.. Who do you consider the best defensive midfielder in the world?
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    Post by Jamie Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:03 am

    Sean wrote:
    Jamie wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Essien and van der Vaart?

    Fuck. That. T. B. H.
    Put your top 5.

    Silva, Modric, Nasri, De Jong, no one else top quality

    Its top 5 midfielders though, not name 5 midfielders who are top quality...

    5th would be...errr someone overhyped like Touré and Wilshere, neither particularly great.

    Basically if I was someone who championed the Premier League I'd be saying here is our best midfielder, naming the top 5 embarrasses the league(this isn't directed at you by the way)


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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:03 am

    Fletcher, if we had him in the 2009 Champions League final we would have won 4-1.
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    Post by Lux Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:03 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:Ok.. Who do you consider the best defensive midfielder in the world?

    I dunno....there's not really a standout candidate.

    It doesn't really have anything to do with this thread though, as this is about midfielders in general not specifically defensive midfielders.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:03 am

    VivaRonaldo wrote:
    Lux wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote: :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.

    facepalm

    Midfielder is a loose term. Taking ALL attributes a midfield needs into consideration, Silva is better than De Jong. All of this, despite De Jong being better defensively....Silva is the better midfielder.

    De Jong being better defensively doesn't make them incomparable. It just means you need to use brain power to compute that Silva's other qualities make him better than De Jong despite his shortcomings

    Ok.. Who do you consider the best defensive midfielder in the world?

    Is that a Lux and Fonseca are right so I'm going to change the subject reply?
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:04 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote: :wall2:

    Thats my fuckin point. De Jong has qualities Silva doesnt, Silva has qualities De Jong doesnt. Therefore the question should be "is Silva the best attacking midfielder in the league". If you cant understand what Im saying just forget about...

    and if you dont understand the meaning of the word exactly above then it proves my point all along, you are dumb.

    Fonseca wrote:I said the difference in class is so great that you can easily identify who's better.

    No I understood, you just forgot how to read when I stated this ages ago

    Ok, so how are you distinguishing this difference in class when they both have completely different attributes.
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    Post by VivaRonaldoLAD Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:04 am

    Lux wrote:
    VivaRonaldo wrote:Ok.. Who do you consider the best defensive midfielder in the world?

    I dunno....there's not really a standout candidate.

    It doesn't really have anything to do with this thread though, as this is about midfielders in general not specifically defensive midfielders.

    It does, because Im interested to see how you would compare him to David Silva.

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