Official Arsenal FC Thread

wellz wrote:Why do you guys keep comparing jobs in which you don't sign a contract to being a professional Footballer under contract?

Fonseca wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

With or without a professional contract Cesc has the option of saying no.

But Barcelona don't.

What happened to a free choice of employment?

What should have happened is this

Arsenal offer Fabregas a contract when Barcelona can't, he has the free choice to leave Barcelona and go to Arsenal
If want him, they offer him a contract for their team, if he prefers it, he has the free choice to leave Arsenal and go back to Barcelona. Arsenal should be free to offer him another contract, to match or better Barcelona's terms, but they shouldn't be allowed to force him to stay against his will.

The point of the contract is to keep the person employed for the time you specifiy under guidelines, why should we have a contract in the first place then? He had the choice to let it run and happily join Barcelona with his choice except he extended his stay at Arsenal

Please do go on once more

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

wellz wrote:Why do you guys keep comparing jobs in which you don't sign a contract to being a professional Footballer under contract?

What are you talking about? You sign contracts in most jobs, that doesn't mean you can't leave.

ClarkY wrote:But, that is it, the old paper did not give you enough chances, they did not say "Hey, we will give you a chance, you're not a proven writer, however, we will pay you at a young age, and give you chances" You're saying that you will go back, after you were not writing, and after someone who is a big paper allowed you to write over 300 articles for them, just because you use to write for them?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:But, that is it, the old paper did not give you enough chances, they did not say "Hey, we will give you a chance, you're not a proven writer, however, we will pay you at a young age, and give you chances" You're saying that you will go back, after you were not writing, and after someone who is a big paper allowed you to write over 300 articles for them, just because you use to write for them?

Well I was only 16 and then The Sun came and said I could write full time for them because they were so shite when it came to my position on their writing team. If they continued to be shit for 8 years, declining, and the old paper decided I was ready to write for them, The Sun shouldn't be allowed to keep me there, even if I am by far their best writer.

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:But, that is it, the old paper did not give you enough chances, they did not say "Hey, we will give you a chance, you're not a proven writer, however, we will pay you at a young age, and give you chances" You're saying that you will go back, after you were not writing, and after someone who is a big paper allowed you to write over 300 articles for them, just because you use to write for them?

Well I was only 16 and then The Sun came and said I could write full time for them because they were so shite when it came to my position on their writing team. If they continued to be shit for 8 years, declining, and the old paper decided I was ready to write for them, The Sun shouldn't be allowed to keep me there, even if I am by far their best writer.

But the paper won 4 awards from 2000 and 2004, runners up 3-4 times, and had a fabulous year when they signed you, infact every article was unbeatable (You like what I did there) sure, years after we started to decline, however, you are part of a bigger picture, and to get the paper back on track it may take a year or two, but would you rather not be key in one paper, than to be in the background of another?

Coatsy wrote:Sooooo...Udinese I reckon the team will be(presuming Rosicky doesn't pass his late fitness test):

Szczesny

Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs

Song Frimpong

Gervinho Ramsey Arshavin

Chamakh

NoviNovak wrote:Traore is off already in the reserve game injured.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:But, that is it, the old paper did not give you enough chances, they did not say "Hey, we will give you a chance, you're not a proven writer, however, we will pay you at a young age, and give you chances" You're saying that you will go back, after you were not writing, and after someone who is a big paper allowed you to write over 300 articles for them, just because you use to write for them?

Well I was only 16 and then The Sun came and said I could write full time for them because they were so shite when it came to my position on their writing team. If they continued to be shit for 8 years, declining, and the old paper decided I was ready to write for them, The Sun shouldn't be allowed to keep me there, even if I am by far their best writer.

But the paper won 4 awards from 2000 and 2004, runners up 3-4 times, and had a fabulous year when they signed you, infact every article was unbeatable (You like what I did there) sure, years after we started to decline, however, you are part of a bigger picture, and to get the paper back on track it may take a year or two, but would you rather not be key in one paper, than to be in the background of another?

If I do want to go and sign for the more prestigious newspaper though, (it happens to be based in my hometown) it's none of The Sun's business what my position will be there, whether I'll be the star writer or whether I'll be writing every week, that's my problem, and The Sun shouldn't be able to stop me just because they want to keep me as the star.

Coatsy wrote:

NoviNovak wrote:Traore is off already in the reserve game injured.

Bad?

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:But, that is it, the old paper did not give you enough chances, they did not say "Hey, we will give you a chance, you're not a proven writer, however, we will pay you at a young age, and give you chances" You're saying that you will go back, after you were not writing, and after someone who is a big paper allowed you to write over 300 articles for them, just because you use to write for them?

Well I was only 16 and then The Sun came and said I could write full time for them because they were so shite when it came to my position on their writing team. If they continued to be shit for 8 years, declining, and the old paper decided I was ready to write for them, The Sun shouldn't be allowed to keep me there, even if I am by far their best writer.

But the paper won 4 awards from 2000 and 2004, runners up 3-4 times, and had a fabulous year when they signed you, infact every article was unbeatable (You like what I did there) sure, years after we started to decline, however, you are part of a bigger picture, and to get the paper back on track it may take a year or two, but would you rather not be key in one paper, than to be in the background of another?

If I do want to go and sign for the more prestigious newspaper though, (it happens to be based in my hometown) it's none of The Sun's business what my position will be there, whether I'll be the star writer or whether I'll be writing every week, that's my problem, and The Sun shouldn't be able to stop me just because they want to keep me as the star.

However, they want to keep you as they made the former paper recognize the writer you are, without that paper, the old one may not even be wanting you back.

NoviNovak wrote:Benik Afobe off injured.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

But Barcelona don't.

What happened to a free choice of employment?

What should have happened is this

Arsenal offer Fabregas a contract when Barcelona can't, he has the free choice to leave Barcelona and go to Arsenal
If want him, they offer him a contract for their team, if he prefers it, he has the free choice to leave Arsenal and go back to Barcelona. Arsenal should be free to offer him another contract, to match or better Barcelona's terms, but they shouldn't be allowed to force him to stay against his will.

The point of the contract is to keep the person employed for the time you specifiy under guidelines, why should we have a contract in the first place then? He had the choice to let it run and happily join Barcelona with his choice except he extended his stay at Arsenal

Please do go on once more

Perhaps Barcelona didn't want him at the time, or he felt Arsenal would respect his wishes if he wanted to leave instead of screwing every penny they could get out of him. You can't honestly think it's right that anyone is forced to stay in a particular job against their will, surely?

Coatsy wrote:

NoviNovak wrote:Benik Afobe off injured.

Do you have a stream for it?

Coatsy wrote:

NoviNovak wrote:Benik Afobe off injured.

Do you have a stream for it?

moscowmadeit3 wrote:

Coatsy wrote:

NoviNovak wrote:Benik Afobe off injured.

Do you have a stream for it?

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/78789/2/watch-arsenal-res-vs-manchester-united-res.html

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ClarkY wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Well I was only 16 and then The Sun came and said I could write full time for them because they were so shite when it came to my position on their writing team. If they continued to be shit for 8 years, declining, and the old paper decided I was ready to write for them, The Sun shouldn't be allowed to keep me there, even if I am by far their best writer.

But the paper won 4 awards from 2000 and 2004, runners up 3-4 times, and had a fabulous year when they signed you, infact every article was unbeatable (You like what I did there) sure, years after we started to decline, however, you are part of a bigger picture, and to get the paper back on track it may take a year or two, but would you rather not be key in one paper, than to be in the background of another?

If I do want to go and sign for the more prestigious newspaper though, (it happens to be based in my hometown) it's none of The Sun's business what my position will be there, whether I'll be the star writer or whether I'll be writing every week, that's my problem, and The Sun shouldn't be able to stop me just because they want to keep me as the star.

However, they want to keep you as they made the former paper recognize the writer you are, without that paper, the old one may not even be wanting you back.

What, so they should be able to force me to stay? Fuck that.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:You don't need a citation for a question.

Fonseca wrote:

James wrote:Is anyone in here actually from London and uses the tubes regularly or at least knows what they are talking about?

I don't mean people that have just been on a couple of times.

Me, Mal, Flippio and Ricardo are...

What's the question though?