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    Post by Ben 10 Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:43 am

    Do you think Sahili will join Rangers?
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    Post by Mason Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:44 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:HAI GAIZ, JST HERD N CREDIBLE ROOMER DAT CWAGE WITE HUZ REMORGEGED DA SEEZON TICKHET MUNY 4 DA NEXT FREE SEEZONS 2 KEYP UZ AFLOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111 BUSSINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111 Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 18 70955 Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 18 70955 Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 18 70955 Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 18 70955

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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:44 am

    hume7 wrote:Do you think Sahili will join Rangers?

    Nope, why?
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:46 am

    Deal includes Everton player going the other way on loan.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:48 am

    Oh and btw, just to clarify ... It will change to EFC and change of number.
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    Post by Mason Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:49 am

    So your name will be Jelavic|EFC __? Laughing
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:50 am

    Mason_Inzaghi wrote:So your name will be Jelavic|EFC __? Laughing

    Yep, unless we sign a player of relevant stature.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:51 am

    DAZ JELA TALK SAY 10 NO WAZZAZAZA BBZ SAID NO AND JELA WAS LIKE YES THEN LO LO LO LOL TROLL MOVE BITCH HO HO HO I HAVE HOES LIKE IM SANTA LALA LALA A RANGERZ WIN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS LO LOL OL

    rofl rofl

    MOFGS not worthy

    CHRAIG WRITE not worthy
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    Post by Totti Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:35 am

    Craig Whyte has mortgaged the season tickets and has no money.

    Apparently what's going to be revealed tomorrow.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:37 am

    Totti wrote:Craig Whyte has mortgaged the season tickets and has no money.

    Apparently what's going to be revealed tomorrow.

    I've already posted it.

    Record also claim he's bought a house in Spain to run away! rofl
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    Post by Totti Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:41 am

    Rich owner. rofl

    Bug eyed nutter, more like.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:45 am

    Jelavic9|RFC wrote:
    Totti wrote:Craig Whyte has mortgaged the season tickets and has no money.

    Apparently what's going to be revealed tomorrow.

    I've already posted it.

    Record also claim he's bought a house in Spain to run away! rofl
    Im sorry. But craig whyte = Psychopath
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    Post by Laurencio Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:03 pm

    Everton signs Jelavic and now Jela is an Everton fan? I guess whomever buys Jelavic buys Jela Laughing
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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:05 pm

    Laurencio wrote:Everton signs Jelavic and now Jela is an Everton fan? I guess whomever buys Jelavic buys Jela Laughing

    We Are All Nikica Jelavic!
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    Post by Totti Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:18 pm

    Craig Whyte does the same thing that Peter Ridsdale did befor Leeds capitulated.

    It's just too good.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:52 pm

    Totti wrote:Craig Whyte does the same thing that Peter Ridsdale did befor Leeds capitulated.

    It's just too good.

    Borrowing against future revenue is commonplace in business. Implying that it was the reason Leeds went tits up is stupid.

    I however will be interested in how this develops as I expect there will be more to come. I've tried extensively to research CW's other companies but I could find next to nothing. I assumed that the majority of his businesses were privately based based overseas.

    There is no doubt he has allot of money comparatively speaking, but whether he is wealthy enough to bankroll a football club is another thing entirely.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:54 pm

    Grant Holt remains number 1 target even though we have no chance of getting him. Also made a bid for Templeton.
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    Post by Ki Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:49 am

    CREG WHITE RICHEST MAN IN DE WORLD, FUCKIN BUSSSINN MAN FEUTCHERS BRYTE FEUTCHERS CREG WHYTE.

    Rangers owner Craig Whyte admits he sold four years' worth of season tickets to keep Ibrox club running

    CRAIG WHYTE sold off four years of fans' money to help fund his Rangers buy-out, it was revealed last night.
    And Record Sport can also reveal high-ranking HMRC officials are investigating alleged non-payment of VAT since Whyte gained control of the club last May.

    Current director Dave King and former board member Paul Murray have been quizzed by the tax authorities as part of their enquiry which has revealed £24.4million has been borrowed against future season-tickets sales.
    Tranches of tickets over four seasons have been sold to Ticketus, a London-based group linked to Octopus, and it's claimed this deal helped finance Whyte's operating costs after the takeover.
    Whyte himself last night confirmed he had sold off the tickets but denied he used the money to pay off Lloyds Bank. He insisted the £18m for the bank came from one of his companies.
    When Whyte took over Rangers' debt was £18m to Lloyds Bank and their wage bill had been reduced to £14m but it is believed the club could owe much more than that.
    It's thought the current debt is £21m to Ticketus plus £5m VAT on the ticket deal. But there could be other bills due and of course Rangers are awaiting the final verdict on their £49m EBT (Employee Benefit Trust) tax case.
    Last night Whyte insisted the Ticketus deal was normal practice for clubs and his spokesman said: "The suggestion that the Rangers takeover was funded through financing arrangements on season tickets is categorically untrue.
    "Rangers FC is no different in that it has a working capital facility with Ticketus, as have many, many other clubs. It is a common arrangement in football. This facility was in place at Ibrox long before the takeover."
    The EBT ruling is due within weeks and if Rangers lose they will be facing financial meltdown.
    Their debt could then be in the £75m region with liquidation a stark reality.
    But many now fear Rangers could be tipped over the abyss and into some kind of insolvency even before their Judgment Day over the tax case.

    Rangers fans put their faith in Whyte believing he would get rid of the club's debt and also provide transfer money for manager Ally McCoist, who has been an impoverished bystander during this transfer window.
    But the Ibrox club's support will be shocked by the detail of invoices and letters now in the revenue's possession. It is claimed these show Whyte sold off massive chunks of Rangers' future season-ticket sales.

    And former board member Murray believes the takeover wouldn't have been possible without the fans, even though they had no idea future tickets had been sold off to raise extra cash.
    Murray said: "These documents prove to me that Rangers fans have actually paid and will continue to pay for the sale of their club."
    He added that HMRC have told him they are also due VAT, as much as £5m, on the deal with Ticketus and insists he has seen details of letters and invoices held by HMRC.
    Murray claims that in one of the documents, a letter dated March 8, 2011 and signed by Whyte, it is alleged he made it clear that through Wavetower, his bid vehicle at the time, he would be entering into a deal to sell the season tickets to a company called Ticketus.
    They are part of London-based Octopus, a perfectly legitimate lender who grant immediate loans based on future ticket sales. Record Sport managed to speak with most of the people who were on the Rangers board at the time of the takeover and they insist they knew nothing about the sale of season tickets. In fact they tried to ring-fence supporters' money.
    The papers, which are being pored over by HMRC officials, are said to reveal borrowing against ticket sales for seasons 2011-12, 12-13 and 13-14 that Whyte was able to raise £24.4m.
    Then on June 27 he was hit with the first of his repayment bills from Ticketus, who were demanding a total of £9.5m, their share of that summer's season-ticket sales. Whyte could only come up with £3.5m cash and to fill the shortfall mortgaged off part of season 2014-15 to the value of £6m.
    Opening in March last year Murray claims the detail contained within HMRC's file is extensive and explosive.
    This is the timetable and interpretation of events: March 8, 2011: A letter from Liberty Capital (one of Whyte's companies) is signed by Whyte and addressed to Ticketus.
    In the letter Whyte confirms the intention to sell Rangers' season tickets to Ticketus.
    April 7: Lawyers on behalf of Ticketus deposit £24.4m into a Collyer Bristow (lawyers for Whyte's bid) client account. A further £2m was placed in the same account from a company called JLT Benefit Solutions with £1m from the Merchant House Group, a firm of corporate finance specialists with whom Whyte is closely linked.
    May 9: An agreement was entered into between Ticketus and Rangers to sell the season tickets.This was just three days after the takeover date of May 6. The bank was repaid the £18m.
    June 27: Ticketus raised an invoice to Rangers seeking first repayment of £9.5m on their agreement. Rangers paid only £3.5m of that amount in cash and borrowed £6m more from Ticketus by selling another portion of 2013-14 as well as a portion of season 2014-15. Analysts stress there is nothing illegal in selling future ticket sales. In fact, it is common practice in British football, although the problems encountered by Leeds United and Newcastle United, who both borrowed too often and too much, are proof of the dangers.
    Whyte has never declared the deals with Ticketus although HMRC documents suggest he has cashed in on fan loyalty.
    The tax officials quizzed Murray and South African-based King, who was on conference call, as recently as last Friday morning.
    They insisted they had no knowledge of what had been happening and Murray, who last year offered to take the club off Lloyds' books and invest £15m in the team in a last-ditch attempt to prevent Whyte from getting the club, said he couldn't believe what he was reading when presented with the HMRC file.
    "HMRC asked for a meeting at the end of last week to find out what knowledge I, having been a director of the club at the time, had of these transactions prior to the takeover," Murray said.
    "I knew nothing about this and although I have been questioned by HMRC and seen some especially revealing documents which are in their possession, it is still very hard to take in what has been going on.
    "Collyer Bristow were acting for Craig Whyte during the takeover and I have been shown their client account, from the opening of it until today.
    "I've also seen all invoices from Ticketus to Rangers and Rangers to Ticketus supporting all these actions.
    "I can't believe Rangers have been handed over in this way.
    "Remember also, the Independent Board, set up to make sure any potential buyers were capable of making the purchase and then funding the business, asked repeatedly where Craig Whyte was getting the money.
    "He said it was from his own personal wealth and through Liberty Capital, which he insisted he owned 100 per cent, in the British Virgin Islands.
    "Plans were being made to sell off future ticket sales but the directors were never told. This was all being done behind our backs."
    King was also shocked to learn of the seasonticket sale and said: "Securitising season tickets is a valid seasonal funding strategy to smooth cash flows within the year - but no longer."
    Whyte's spokesman added: "The takeover team instigated discussions with Ticketus prior to the takeover because the relationship with Rangers was already in place and the new owners wanted to continue it.
    "They were clear from the outset they wanted to ensure there were robust working capital provisions in place that could deal with the many financial challenges the club faces.
    "The takeover was funded by one of Mr Whyte's companies. Several months before then - and long before any discussions with Ticketus - Mr Whyte was asked to provide proof of funds for the takeover and he did that to the satisfaction of the previous owners, Lloyds Banking Group and professional advisers."
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:23 am

    Daily rhebel load of shite. rofl
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    Post by Mason Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:25 am

    How can it be a load of shite when they are quotes from Whyte himself? scratch
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:30 am

    From one shit blue club to another shite blue club.What a Face
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    Post by Totti Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:38 am

    Again. "Rhebel".

    Cringe.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:39 am

    Totti wrote:Again. "Rhebel".

    Cringe.

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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:27 am

    Glad that we're keeping a hold of Healy. eek2
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    Post by MickStupp Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:30 pm

    Mason_Inzaghi wrote:How can it be a load of shite when they are quotes from Whyte himself? scratch
    What quotes are you meaning in relation to the article?

    "The suggestion that the Rangers takeover was funded through financing arrangements on season tickets is categorically untrue."

    That one?

    Having said that, there does seem like something fishy is going on at the minute.
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    Post by Guest Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:37 am

    Please keep this thread friendly from now on, thanks.

    In other news:

    However, McCoist told Telegraph Sport on Wednesday night: “You know me and you know that I’m no quitter. Certainly, it’s not a bed of roses right now but I never thought it would be and I’m going nowhere.
    “I didn’t know they had suspended betting on my job because I didn’t know anybody was betting on it - but I bet there’s a bookmaker smiling tonight.”

    Great to here. Smile
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    Post by Drake Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:13 am

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    Gavin Gunning not worthy
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:15 am

    Drake wrote:Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 18 Rangers-v-Dundee-United-Gavin-Gunning-pa_2713422

    Gavin Gunning not worthy

    ooh noez, we out ov da scoteesh cup!!11111

    I'd be worry more about your own team, 7-1, relegation imminent, the banks chasing your owners for money. Venkys not worthy

    gonna b big uropeen teem soon wiv all da big starz

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    + Not to forget that your captain is refusing to play rofl BUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIN

    Oh wait, yeh I forgot. He's injured looooooooooool, only days after stating that the venkys were frauds and he wanted out.

    #WINNING!
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    Post by Drake Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:17 am

    Someones mad Laughing
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    Post by Guest Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:17 am

    Drake wrote:Someones mad Laughing

    Evidently not, at least I know my team is financially stable. Very Happy

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