Best centre back in the world?

crump wrote:

James wrote:I hear lots of stuff but i'm not stupid enough to believe it all.

The sooner you're banned the better, shouldn't be long tbh.

Amazing.

SBSP wrote:

Sean wrote:At least James is entertaining, Crump is the forum equivalent of a dry sponge

TBF, crump is harmless. James is just a cunt. It's like comparing fluffy to Filippo.

Im sorry you feel i am a cunt.

BMxJoga wrote:Soooooo John Terry: overrated?

Depends how highly you rate him, he's still England's best CB, he's still one of the best 10-15 CB's in the world for me.

Can you guys just leave it and get back on topic please?


Surprised to see virtually no-one wsa giving Terry a mention before now.

Point taken.

Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He has been mentioned.

Forest wrote:Pique isn't the best. Rio and Vidic are both better.

Sort of.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

Maybe its the injuries and Rio disappearing from view a bit, but I cant agree with that

Sean wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:Soooooo John Terry: overrated?

Depends how highly you rate him, he's still England's best CB, he's still one of the best 10-15 CB's in the world for me.

Well I think Dawson will soon pass him and be Englands best defender. I always felt Terry relied more on Carvahlo for his success.

What about Puyol? This season has been quite injury-ridden one, but on his day, definitely the best?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He is better at his peak for me too, not convinced by his injury problems though.

crump wrote:What about Puyol? This season has been quite injury-ridden one, but on his day, definitely the best?

Not the best at his club.

BMxJoga wrote:

Sean wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:Soooooo John Terry: overrated?

Depends how highly you rate him, he's still England's best CB, he's still one of the best 10-15 CB's in the world for me.

Well I think Dawson will soon pass him and be Englands best defender. I always felt Terry relied more on Carvahlo for his success.

Cant see it, Smalling or Jones will probably replace Terry in a few years

I agree with RR. Vidic's tackling is quite erratic at times whereas Ferdinand is a defensive stalwart and the pinnacle of composure.

SBSP wrote:He has been mentioned.

Forest wrote:Pique isn't the best. Rio and Vidic are both better.

Sort of.

Ah yes, I was looking through the thread for the name Ferdinand, rather than Rio.

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

Maybe its the injuries and Rio disappearing from view a bit, but I cant agree with that

The injuries have hit him, but it's the same as van Persie, he'll miss a lot of games but when he is fit he is exceptional.

I like Terry, his passion does it for me, and his never say die attitude. Any good defenders outside of Europe?

Vidic has such an uncanny knack to get a vital block or tackle in, I guess thats a very simplistic Match of the Day way of judging a CB though

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

That's interesting, most MU fans or afficionados always seem to have Vidic higher. Rio I guess is a but more technical, but he's been injured more often then not lately so it is kind of hard to take him into account.

Do people here really think Terry is England's best centre back? Honestly, I can't understand that, you might as well be watching a different sport to me.

Fine Shagger wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He is better at his peak for me too, not convinced by his injury problems though.

Yeah, taking the injuries into account, Vidic is obviously more important to the club, fit Ferdinand Vs. fit Vidic though, it's Ferdinand every time for me.

Ferdinand back in like...2007/2008(I'm guessing here) was one of the best displays over a season I've seen. Vidic won't ever match it.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Do people here really think Terry is England's best centre back? Honestly, I can't understand that, you might as well be watching a different sport to me.

Fine Shagger wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He is better at his peak for me too, not convinced by his injury problems though.

Yeah, taking the injuries into account, Vidic is obviously more important to the club, fit Ferdinand Vs. fit Vidic though, it's Ferdinand every time for me.

Not ever but at the moment yes

Sean wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:

Sean wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:Soooooo John Terry: overrated?

Depends how highly you rate him, he's still England's best CB, he's still one of the best 10-15 CB's in the world for me.

Well I think Dawson will soon pass him and be Englands best defender. I always felt Terry relied more on Carvahlo for his success.

Cant see it, Smalling or Jones will probably replace Terry in a few years

Defenders are usually the hardest to predict seeing ad young ones don't always play. I really like Dawson, he's good defensively and I've always preferred defenders who play a but more like sweepers, looking to come out of the back playing.

BMxJoga wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

That's interesting, most MU fans or afficionados always seem to have Vidic higher. Rio I guess is a but more technical, but he's been injured more often then not lately so it is kind of hard to take him into account.

Yes, they do, but thud and blunder defenders are always more highly rated than their sophisticated, tactical and technical counterparts, look how much praise Terry got in comparison to Carvalho when they were partners. Vidic is a very good defender, and if I was going to buy one defender in the Premier League, or in the world, it would be him, but Ferdinand is a better one when he's available.

Fine Shagger wrote:Ferdinand back in like...2007/2008(I'm guessing here) was one of the best displays over a season I've seen. Vidic won't ever match it.

2007/08 he was godlike. There was a period of a few months in 2008/09 when Vidic was just as good as that, so good that we literally didn't concede any goals for months whenever he was playing, but it all came to a rather unpleasant end and he couldn't keep it up all season.

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Do people here really think Terry is England's best centre back? Honestly, I can't understand that, you might as well be watching a different sport to me.

Fine Shagger wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He is better at his peak for me too, not convinced by his injury problems though.

Yeah, taking the injuries into account, Vidic is obviously more important to the club, fit Ferdinand Vs. fit Vidic though, it's Ferdinand every time for me.

Not ever but at the moment yes

In what respect is he better than Ferdinand?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Sean wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Do people here really think Terry is England's best centre back? Honestly, I can't understand that, you might as well be watching a different sport to me.

Fine Shagger wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Surprised no-one's mentioned Ferdinand yet, he's a better player than Vidic in my view.

He is better at his peak for me too, not convinced by his injury problems though.

Yeah, taking the injuries into account, Vidic is obviously more important to the club, fit Ferdinand Vs. fit Vidic though, it's Ferdinand every time for me.

Not ever but at the moment yes

In what respect is he better than Ferdinand?

He plays

No but you made a good point, Im probably one of those who get sucked in by the agressive sliding tackle type of defenders, plus a bit of Chelsea bias I've always just prefered Terry

RR that's what I have been saying this whole thread. That's why I rate Thiago Silva so highly. Tbf though I would go as far to call VIdic's style brutish, his positioning is excellent and he's a threat on any set piece.

BMxJoga wrote:RR that's what I have been saying this whole thread. That's why I rate Thiago Silva so highly. Tbf though I would go as far to call VIdic's style brutish, his positioning is excellent and he's a threat on any set piece.

Agree 100% on this, from what I've watched from him his positioning is always spot on, and he's good at both defending/attacking set-pieces.

thiago silva first

pique carvalho close

To me, Vidic is no better than Kompany if I'm being honest. Kompany gives away less fouls, but that's about it.

When I think about it, I have to say Vidic is a bit overrated.

I said that in the overrated players thread and United fans went nuts.