'orrible bastard wrote:Luxz0rz wrote:
Here's a question for you.........what has Pele done for football? Even more precisely.....what has he done that should make anyone today e.g. an English Championship club supporter, care?
You love football because of Pele (or even because of a commercial about Pele).....er for me that's just wrong.
I love football because....I can follow my local team and be emotionally attached. They play for the fans and the team that I love, and whether we win, lose or draw they're still my team. I get to watch football every week, or even more then that....and being part of the club going down to the stadium to watch your local team is the best part of football for me. Every time Watford or England score I get celebrate with my fellow fans and cheer them on.....there's not many great things like that.
I don't love football because of Pele, I think that's pretty sad for someone to do that.....and you're not even Brazilian or from his time so it's just weird.
i dont love Pele. at no point has he ever been my favourite player. i have had one footballing hero and i dont ever see that changing! his name is Steve Bull. he played for Wolves & England during my childhood - he is the single most important player in football history to ME.
but i cant ignore the history books - Pele is the man. not to me but the masses. not to you either Lux, or the majority of football fans. but the majority of football fans have the mental capacity to appreciate what Pele means to our sport and recognize his importance. you dont.
you're fucking weird. and you show a level of inteligence that cant fully comprehend the video. try taking it out of context - Darren Bazeley is 70 years old and his only wish is that he could score one more goal at vicarage road vs luton. he has a couple of half chances, takes a knock but soldiers on. then in injury time the ball breaks to him and he spots the luton keeper off his line and chips him with an audacious effort from 40 yards. two and a half sides of the stadium erupt into delirium. 1 v o watford and Dazza Bazza can die a happy old man.
its about football you muppet! Pele is just a focal point for the commercials intended audience!
substitute Pele, Brazil & Argentina with any player, his favourite football team and their biggest rivals and tug at the heart strings of any football fan in the world.
GET IT NOW? probably fucking not.
remember the carling England World Cup advert? you do realise that you could substitute England for any other nation and swap our flag, celebrities, former players and managers and any other imagery for those of ANY other country and it would still work!
yet you could show that advert to a Brazilian, an Italian, an Egyptian or an American and they would get it. and it would still probably send a shiver down their spine!
in fact lets try it. all you foreigners especially you ahlycotc does this evoke a reaction from you? are you able to take it out of context?
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/england-2010-world-cup-carlsberg-tv-advert-england-teamtalks/df94de4b8052dfbe0887df94de4b8052dfbe0887-231228441206?q=carlsberg%20world%20cup%20advert&FROM=LKVR5>1=LKVR5&FORM=LKVR
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That's what I was basically saying to Lux and the others. The video is great because of the idea and thrill in it. I'm not Brazilian or particularly a Pele fan, but that video sent shivers down my spine when watching it. It was a great video and I would recommend it to everyone.
But Lux and the others have to take it personally and go on about Watford or English football being more enjoyable. Who cares? It's the idea of the video that counts not who is in it. And just like you said, you can substitute any team or player in the video and it would produce the same if not better feeling when watching it.
And that England video posted was good too, even though I don't really like the England National Team. Another commercial that had the same feeling as the Pele one was the Nike commercial for the World Cup (the one about writing the future).
Anyways, that's how I sounded when we scored the second goal too. 
