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    Smith: Money-driven players no loss SPL V Championship

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    Post by MickStupp Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:16 am

    CollieBuddz wrote:Covered everything in the OP.

    Thick twats, the SPL is a graveyard of footballers. It means fuck all that they have CL football. So does FC Vaslui.

    It's nothing to do with money. If you move to the SPL you've basically brought your career to an end. You're almost guaranteed to a win a mickey mouse league and make an appearance in the CL. That's all.

    You move to the Championship and if you get promoted you're rubbing shoulders with some of the best players in the world. You get a chance to show that you have the ability to play with that calibre of player week in-week out and a possible move to a big club in England.


    The thing that pisses me off with the SPL is that people think that because they border us on a small island that we should somehow be grouped together and that we should be mentioned in the same sentence. When in actual fact, they just border us but couldn't be further from us in quality. They're on par with leagues in Romania and shit like that. No one would mention the Romanian league in the same sentence as the Prem and shouldn't be any different with the SPL.
    It is a lot to do with money, but not the way Smith's put it.
    The English leagues have far more financial support. The difference wasn't quite so big 10-15 years ago when a fair few players' careers actually took off in the SPL. Man Utd are what, £600m in debt or something, whereas Rangers could hardly cope with £25m. More people takeover English clubs as well now, freeing up more money for them to spend.
    When someone eventually does take over a Scottish club like that, they are much more competitive, look at Hearts in 2006 and Gretna as well (although that ended badly).
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    Post by Mason Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:16 am

    Jordi wrote:
    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:
    Jordi wrote:
    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:
    Jordi wrote:Championship > Europa League Final.

    Smith: Money-driven players no loss   SPL V Championship - Page 2 70955

    No it's not. Neutral
    How unbelievably hilarious.



    Not. Neutral

    That's what you said. Smith: Money-driven players no loss   SPL V Championship - Page 2 894246
    Just fuck off.

    Here we go again...

    *Jordi*

    Laughing
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 am

    Jordi wrote:
    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:
    Jordi wrote:
    Jelavic18|RFC wrote:
    Jordi wrote:Championship > Europa League Final.

    rofl

    No it's not. Neutral
    How unbelievably hilarious.



    Not. Neutral

    That's what you said. Confused
    Just fuck off.

    You fuck off.
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    Post by Jordi Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:28 am

    Will do. I hope the ignore function gets fixed soon.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:23 am

    I agree with the points and to be honest the championship will have even bigger crowds next season with Scunthorpe moving down plus now they have West ham who average 30 odd thousand a week, Southampton will also have big crowds. Same applies to Birmingham, Blackpool will have alright crowds but not the best.
    So imo Championship football has been much more competitive over the years and You could move to Rangers for champions league football but when was the last time they ever did anything special in it?
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:37 am

    Hereford could get into the SPL if Hamilton did, therefore Championship > SPL. Neutral
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    Post by ShakerMatty Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:43 am

    Agree with Radford they took on Tommy Elliott who is dreadful. The Spl is made up of 2 clubs Celtic And Rangers with 2 others there or there abouts in the Europa, Dundee and Hearts
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:44 am

    Yeah Myrie-Williams and Darren Randolph played in the SLP...Smith: Money-driven players no loss   SPL V Championship - Page 2 70955
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:51 am

    James wrote:
    Rangers director of football Gordon Smith can't agree with players who
    would choose the npower Championship over the opportunity to play in the
    Champions League.

    Crystal Palace midfielder Neil Danns agreed a move to Leicester despite
    interest from the Scottish champions, while another target, Craig
    Conway, opted for Cardiff.

    Reports suggest Conway's former Dundee United team-mate David Goodwillie
    could also make the move to the Bluebirds, with Rangers yet to make a
    formal bid for the Tannadice striker.

    However, former agent Smith insists players who choose finances over football are no great loss to Rangers.

    He said: "I believe it shouldn't always be about money. My own opinion
    is that players should be making decisions which are football decisions,
    rather than financial.

    "I tried to do that myself when I was an agent, I tried to say to the player to make the right football decision.

    "If I was a player coming through, would I go to a club playing in the
    Champions League or go to a club that's playing in the Championship? I
    know where I would want to go.

    "It's a shame because you lose players who don't quite see it that way. But we move on.

    "If a player decides not to come to us, we have to take the attitude that maybe it's not such a bad thing.

    "He's maybe not got the right attitude that we want because what we really want is people who see us as the place to come to."

    Smith added: "It is a different world these days.

    "We have budgets here, we have a certain amount of income and we have to
    be sensible spending the money. I think the fans realise that nowadays.

    "I'm very aware of salary levels at Premiership level, but the Championship level salaries have also rocketed.

    "There are clubs coming down from the Premiership into the Championship and they are keeping the wage scales going.

    "Clubs are getting new owners and deciding to compete to try to get into
    the Premiership because they know there is big money. So that's the
    market."

    New Rangers boss Ally McCoist has yet to make his first signing but Smith urged fans to be patient.

    He said: "I would tell them not to be frustrated. It is early on.

    "I've got a lot of experience of the transfer business and it's usually midnight on August 31 when a lot of the deals get done.

    "We're trying to do it in June now and we're trying to get up and running because there are games coming up.

    "We have a good set of players just now, it's not as though we are short
    of a team. But we are looking to strengthen the squad and that's what
    we are working on just now.

    "I would say to the fans not to be too worried or frustrated. We are
    working on it, we've got targets and ultimately we will be bringing
    players in."

    He added: "The squad definitely does need to be strengthened. Not in terms of right away because we've got a good team.

    "But we are going to try to strengthen the squad in terms of bringing in
    quality. Ally and I agree that we need competition for places. The
    other aspect is injuries and suspensions.

    "It's important that we get some players in. We are probably looking at at least three or four players to come in."


    Why are all the Scottish idiots? Its not just about money. Its about playing in a competitive league and with one good season get you playing in the best league in the world.

    6 Champions League group games which you get beaten in them all is not fun or a great experience.

    Thoughts? This was on the back of Danns going to Leicester instead of Rangers.
    Why are you such a fucking idiot? And if all Scottish are idiots, why are they so many Scottish managers in English football, And who was the last Englishman to manage a team that won the top League in England.
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    Post by Drake Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:52 am

    Burytilidie wrote:I agree with the points and to be honest the championship will have even bigger crowds next season with Scunthorpe moving down plus now they have West ham who average 30 odd thousand a week, Southampton will also have big crowds. Same applies to Birmingham, Blackpool will have alright crowds but not the best.
    So imo Championship football has been much more competitive over the years and You could move to Rangers for champions league football but when was the last time they ever did anything special in it?
    Blackpool will have shit crowds of 3-5k Neutral
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    Post by ShakerMatty Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:53 am

    na they will get about 8-10k, not the best but better then most crowds in Spl
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    Post by Drake Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:54 am

    Burytilidie wrote:na they will get about 8-10k, not the best but better then most crowds in Spl
    Doubt that they didn't have anything special first time around in the championship and i think it will be the same.

    Preston will have bigger crowd already sold 7k Season tickets rofl
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:27 am

    What idiocy.

    They choose the Championship over SPL because it not only is a greatly higher level of football being played, but it also pays more.

    Scotts, your shit, get over it.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:34 am

    polska. wrote:What idiocy.

    They choose the Championship over SPL because it not only is a greatly higher level of football being played, but it also pays more.

    Scotts, your shit, get over it.
    Scots actually, and Scots have not got as many great players anymore, but the Scottish manager are not shit.
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    Post by Lux Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:52 am

    Smith is stupid.

    Some Championship players go to play for Rangers/Celtic....some go the other way.

    The point is that some are happy to be the best players in a 2 team league and get thrashed in Europe for a couple of games....and some would rather further their career.

    Lafferty can score 15 goals for Rangers in a season....but he's never going to get Premier League football like players at teams who get promoted in the Championship or players who impress like Graham, Morison, and even Mackail Smith in League 1 Laughing
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    Post by TheRangersFan Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:40 am

    Ambitious players will want to play for one of the biggest supported clubs in British football, win trophies and play in the best club competitions in the world.

    Non ambitious players are happy earning money at daft clubs like Hull and Wigan.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:41 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:Ambitious players will want to play for one of the biggest supported clubs in British football, win trophies and play in the best club competitions in the world.

    Non ambitious players are happy earning money at daft clubs like Hull and Wigan.

    Half right, half wrong.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:47 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:Ambitious players will want to play for one of the biggest supported clubs in British football, win trophies and play in the best club competitions in the world.

    Non ambitious players are happy earning money at daft clubs like Hull and Wigan.

    Ambitious players will realise that playing for a 'daft club' will provide them a higher standard of football to compete in and could get them noticed more by bigger clubs than Rangers and Celtic are. As well as earning more money.

    Non ambitious players are happy to play for a big supported club in a shite league, win trophies which are competed for by 2 teams, and play for 2 weeks in the qualifying rounds of the best club competition in the world before being beat by bigger teams such as Romanian giants FC Urine or to world famous Slovakian Champions Artmedia Bratislava.
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    Post by Lux Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:50 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:Ambitious players will want to play for one of the biggest supported clubs in British football, win trophies and play in the best club competitions in the world.

    Non ambitious players are happy earning money at daft clubs like Hull and Wigan.

    Great ambition playing for a team who have a 50% chance (or probably more) to win the league every year. GREAT ambition.
    Great ambition to test yourself for like 10 games a season tops......and the rest is just an unrewarding waste of your career.
    Winning trophies is only relevant when the trophies are worth winning.
    Playing in the best club competitions is only relevant when you're not cannon fodder. Even if you did well, you're still doomed to a rubbish league.
    Big support will only take you so far. More people watch you in person....but you're getting less money.
    "Why is it only about money?" It's not, but there's nothing wrong with wanting more money. These players want to do the best for them and their family after all.....

    OR

    Go to a "daft" club like Hull and challenge to play in the Premier League, and even if that fails you're in a very competitive, challenging, unpredictable and well supported league where you need to play at a higher tempo, thus you're likely to be improving yourself. The amount of players I've seen come up from League One or from Scotland to the Championship and talk about how much harder training and matches are is uncountable.

    and Wigan.......daft? Laughing They shit all over Rangers.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:31 am

    SPL isn't really a shit league either. Everyone except St Mirren and Dunfermline would be comfortable enough. Obviously most of you don't watch the SPL, so I wouldn't expect you to know that.

    It takes a winner to play for Rangers or Celti. You have to win every week, even a draw is a poor result. Some players just don't have that mentality.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:47 am

    Pilkz wrote:
    Burytilidie wrote:na they will get about 8-10k, not the best but better then most crowds in Spl
    Doubt that they didn't have anything special first time around in the championship and i think it will be the same.

    Preston will have bigger crowd already sold 7k Season tickets Smith: Money-driven players no loss   SPL V Championship - Page 2 70955

    when we were in the championship we had 80% attendance and we have sold 9,000 already so yeah your right on the mark
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:53 am

    I would much rather play in the Championship and have a challenging, testing game most weeks in an exciting league than have a boring and pretty easy game most weeks in the SPL with 4 or 5 decent games a year, all against the same team. Besides, these days the salary at an SPL top 2 club and the salary at an ambitious Championship club will be very similar.

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