Paul Scholes or Steven Gerrard?

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:
Gerrard is a bottler. Every side he has captained has failed (except for 05 team) which finished below everton.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Gerrard has proven that:

He can play anywhere in a team and can still be as affective - Scholes is limited and isn't as versatile as Gerrard.

Can play a pass as good as any top midfielder - Scholes probably a better passer off the ball than Stevie, i'll give him that.

Can track back and tackle - Scholes can't tackle for shit. Has proven this countless times and has been punished because of it.

Gerrard is a leader on the pitch as proven countless times - Scholes doesn't have the discpline to lead a team.

Individual Awards - Scholes

Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (1): 1992–93

Premier League Player of the Month (4): January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010

PFA Team of the Year (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07

Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade

English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008

Gerrard

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009

Liverpool top goalscorer: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[98]
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
Goal of the Season: 2006
England Player of the Year: 2007
Awards

Gerrard has been nominated on numerous occasions for the Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.

Ballon d'Or
2001 – 25th
2005 – 3rd
2006 – nominated (top 50)
2007 – 13th
2008 – 10th
2009 – 10th[99]

FIFA World Player of the Year

2001 – 28th
2005 – 7th
2006 – 12th
2007 – 6th
2008 – 6th
2009 – 8th[100][where?]

Others

Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE): 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award 3rd place: 2005

Says enough for me.

Versatility does not mean he is a better player than scholes
Gerrards passing is overrated and shit.
Gerrard cannot tackle. Media goes over the top about scholes tackling.
Gerrard is a bottler. Every side he has captained has failed (except for 05 team) which finished below everton.
Why dont we compare trophies instead of these micky mouse individual awards some liverpool fans seem to thrive off.


Oh God you included Personality of the year

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Gerrard has proven that:

He can play anywhere in a team and can still be as affective - Scholes is limited and isn't as versatile as Gerrard.

Can play a pass as good as any top midfielder - Scholes probably a better passer off the ball than Stevie, i'll give him that.

Can track back and tackle - Scholes can't tackle for shit. Has proven this countless times and has been punished because of it.

Gerrard is a leader on the pitch as proven countless times - Scholes doesn't have the discpline to lead a team.

Individual Awards - Scholes

Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (1): 1992–93

Premier League Player of the Month (4): January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010

PFA Team of the Year (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07

Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade

English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008

Gerrard

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009

Liverpool top goalscorer: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[98]
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
Goal of the Season: 2006
England Player of the Year: 2007
Awards

Gerrard has been nominated on numerous occasions for the Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.

Ballon d'Or
2001 – 25th
2005 – 3rd
2006 – nominated (top 50)
2007 – 13th
2008 – 10th
2009 – 10th[99]

FIFA World Player of the Year

2001 – 28th
2005 – 7th
2006 – 12th
2007 – 6th
2008 – 6th
2009 – 8th[100][where?]

Others

Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE): 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award 3rd place: 2005

Says enough for me.

Versatility does not mean he is a better player than scholes
Gerrards passing is overrated and shit.
Gerrard cannot tackle. Media goes over the top about scholes tackling.
Gerrard is a bottler. Every side he has captained has failed (except for 05 team) which finished below everton.
Why dont we compare trophies instead of these micky mouse individual awards some liverpool fans seem to thrive off.


Oh God you included Personality of the year

Ermm... I thought we were comparing them as individuals? John O'Shea has won more trophies than Gerrard, does that make him a better player?

All those comments just confirm how much of a fucking mong you are.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Gerrard has proven that:

He can play anywhere in a team and can still be as affective - Scholes is limited and isn't as versatile as Gerrard.

Can play a pass as good as any top midfielder - Scholes probably a better passer off the ball than Stevie, i'll give him that.

Can track back and tackle - Scholes can't tackle for shit. Has proven this countless times and has been punished because of it.

Gerrard is a leader on the pitch as proven countless times - Scholes doesn't have the discpline to lead a team.

Individual Awards - Scholes

Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (1): 1992–93

Premier League Player of the Month (4): January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010

PFA Team of the Year (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07

Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade

English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008

Gerrard

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009

Liverpool top goalscorer: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[98]
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
Goal of the Season: 2006
England Player of the Year: 2007
Awards

Gerrard has been nominated on numerous occasions for the Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.

Ballon d'Or
2001 – 25th
2005 – 3rd
2006 – nominated (top 50)
2007 – 13th
2008 – 10th
2009 – 10th[99]

FIFA World Player of the Year

2001 – 28th
2005 – 7th
2006 – 12th
2007 – 6th
2008 – 6th
2009 – 8th[100][where?]

Others

Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE): 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award 3rd place: 2005

Says enough for me.

Versatility does not mean he is a better player than scholes
Gerrards passing is overrated and shit.
Gerrard cannot tackle. Media goes over the top about scholes tackling.
Gerrard is a bottler. Every side he has captained has failed (except for 05 team) which finished below everton.
Why dont we compare trophies instead of these micky mouse individual awards some liverpool fans seem to thrive off.


Oh God you included Personality of the year

Ermm... I thought we were comparing them as individuals? John O'Shea has won more trophies than Gerrard, does that make him a better player?

All those comments just confirm how much of a fucking mong you are.

Why are you comparing pointless individual honors? To attain half of them you need to constantly be in the media spotlight off the pitch. Gerrard does this, scholes doesnt

Anyway by your logic Owen is one of your best players since Kenny Dalglish played.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Gerrard has proven that:

He can play anywhere in a team and can still be as affective - Scholes is limited and isn't as versatile as Gerrard.

Can play a pass as good as any top midfielder - Scholes probably a better passer off the ball than Stevie, i'll give him that.

Can track back and tackle - Scholes can't tackle for shit. Has proven this countless times and has been punished because of it.

Gerrard is a leader on the pitch as proven countless times - Scholes doesn't have the discpline to lead a team.

Individual Awards - Scholes

Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (1): 1992–93

Premier League Player of the Month (4): January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010

PFA Team of the Year (3): 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07

Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade

English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008

Gerrard

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2009
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2001
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2001, 2009
PFA Team of the Year: 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
FA Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009

Liverpool top goalscorer: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match: 2005
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
FIFA/FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009[98]
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2006
Goal of the Season: 2006
England Player of the Year: 2007
Awards

Gerrard has been nominated on numerous occasions for the Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year Award.

Ballon d'Or
2001 – 25th
2005 – 3rd
2006 – nominated (top 50)
2007 – 13th
2008 – 10th
2009 – 10th[99]

FIFA World Player of the Year

2001 – 28th
2005 – 7th
2006 – 12th
2007 – 6th
2008 – 6th
2009 – 8th[100][where?]

Others

Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE): 2007
Honorary Fellowship from Liverpool John Moores University: 2008
BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award 3rd place: 2005

Says enough for me.

Versatility does not mean he is a better player than scholes
Gerrards passing is overrated and shit.
Gerrard cannot tackle. Media goes over the top about scholes tackling.
Gerrard is a bottler. Every side he has captained has failed (except for 05 team) which finished below everton.
Why dont we compare trophies instead of these micky mouse individual awards some liverpool fans seem to thrive off.


Oh God you included Personality of the year

Ermm... I thought we were comparing them as individuals? John O'Shea has won more trophies than Gerrard, does that make him a better player?

All those comments just confirm how much of a fucking mong you are.

Why are you comparing pointless individual honors? To attain half of them you need to constantly be in the media spotlight off the pitch. Gerrard does this, scholes doesnt

Anyway by your logic Owen is one of your best players since Kenny Dalglish played.

ViVaRooney wrote:any vote that has a liverpool player is already compromised so whats the point

i mean.. the validity of these votes went out the window when people were saying suarez was as good or better then Van Persie

Scouser_Dave wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:any vote that has a liverpool player is already compromised so whats the point

i mean.. the validity of these votes went out the window when people were saying suarez was as good or better then Van Persie

Same could be said for you's lot thinking Scholes is better than Gerrard. Works both ways.

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:any vote that has a liverpool player is already compromised so whats the point

i mean.. the validity of these votes went out the window when people were saying suarez was as good or better then Van Persie

Same could be said for you's lot thinking Scholes is better than Gerrard. Works both ways.

No it doesn't because Van Persie is better, not one person could justify why Suarez was better in that thread

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:any vote that has a liverpool player is already compromised so whats the point

i mean.. the validity of these votes went out the window when people were saying suarez was as good or better then Van Persie

Same could be said for you's lot thinking Scholes is better than Gerrard. Works both ways.

No it doesn't because Van Persie is better, not one person could justify why Suarez was better in that thread

Do you support Arsenal?

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:any vote that has a liverpool player is already compromised so whats the point

i mean.. the validity of these votes went out the window when people were saying suarez was as good or better then Van Persie

Same could be said for you's lot thinking Scholes is better than Gerrard. Works both ways.

No it doesn't because Van Persie is better, not one person could justify why Suarez was better in that thread

Do you support Arsenal?

Are you bias?

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Same could be said for you's lot thinking Scholes is better than Gerrard. Works both ways.

No it doesn't because Van Persie is better, not one person could justify why Suarez was better in that thread

Do you support Arsenal?

Are you bias?

Are you? because it seems that way.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Scholes looks to be winning this by a few

Minus 7 deluded scousers and 1 retard in fluffy kittens and the real outcome at the moment would be:

Scholes - 15

Gerrard - 12

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Scholes looks to be winning this by a few

Minus 7 deluded scousers and 1 retard in fluffy kittens and the real outcome at the moment would be:

Scholes - 15

Gerrard - 12

You forgot the deluded mancs and whoever the fuck you support

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

No it doesn't because Van Persie is better, not one person could justify why Suarez was better in that thread

Do you support Arsenal?

Are you bias?

Are you? because it seems that way.

I'm Bias? No I recognize when a player is better than another which I've justified

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Scholes looks to be winning this by a few

Minus 7 deluded scousers and 1 retard in fluffy kittens and the real outcome at the moment would be:

Scholes - 15

Gerrard - 12

You forgot the deluded mancs and whoever the fuck you support

No because Scholes is better

And i support Arsenal.

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Do you support Arsenal?

Are you bias?

Are you? because it seems that way.

I'm Bias? No I recognize when a player is better than another which I've justified

Could be seen as being biased though.

The majority of you seem to be massively overrating Suarez, so now Suarez...

Is better than Van Persie and Aguero.

He is only inferior to Messi and Ronaldo. According to some...

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Scholes looks to be winning this by a few

Minus 7 deluded scousers and 1 retard in fluffy kittens and the real outcome at the moment would be:

Scholes - 15

Gerrard - 12

You forgot the deluded mancs and whoever the fuck you support

No because Scholes is better

And i support Arsenal.

Behave

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:As i posted in the Liverpool thread.

The majority of you seem to be massively overrating Suarez, so now Suarez...

Is better than Van Persie and Aguero.

He is only inferior to Messi and Ronaldo. According to some...

The majority of Liverpool fans have a reputation for overrating their players. Why is it different this time?

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:


Are you bias?

Are you? because it seems that way.

I'm Bias? No I recognize when a player is better than another which I've justified

Could be seen as being biased though.

That's because you lot jump to conclusions because of the team I support

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Scholes looks to be winning this by a few

Minus 7 deluded scousers and 1 retard in fluffy kittens and the real outcome at the moment would be:

Scholes - 15

Gerrard - 12

You forgot the deluded mancs and whoever the fuck you support

No because Scholes is better

And i support Arsenal.

Behave

Please get a name change

Deluded Scouser Dave

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

You forgot the deluded mancs and whoever the fuck you support

No because Scholes is better

And i support Arsenal.

Behave

Please get a name change

Deluded Scouser Dave

Irony coming from you that

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Are you? because it seems that way.

I'm Bias? No I recognize when a player is better than another which I've justified

Could be seen as being biased though.

That's because you lot jump to conclusions because of the team I support

It's not final though. Just because you and a few others think that doesn't mean it's a fact that he is better than Suarez does it?

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:No because Scholes is better

And i support Arsenal.

Behave

Please get a name change

Deluded Scouser Dave

Irony coming from you that

Please elaborate...

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Behave

Please get a name change

Deluded Scouser Dave

Irony coming from you that

Please elaborate...

Take a look at your post history