Yes but Messi and Barca could have still scored a goal and that would have been enough, cause as you said the 2nd leg finished 1-1.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Of course we don't know for fucking certain, but that decision undoubtedly had a effect on the game. We have to use our intellects to work out what was likely to happen.Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:So that proves you can't say what would have happened if Pepe was not sent off we dont know what would have happened.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:But Pepe could have fell and broke his ankle or anything like that somebody else might have been sent off we just dont know.
If you try to look at Football like that then you can't analyse anything properly. Real Madrid should have had a throw-in in the first game and it went to Barcelona, they could have scored from play relating to that throw in, we just don't know. You have to use what actually happened in the match, before and after particular incidents, in order to form a reasonable opinion.
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Barcelona... Are they really a team that should be admired?
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Yes i have.Fine Shagger wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.
You've never seen Man Utd surround the referee?
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:What does every team have players that do triple rolls and triple summersaults and play act like some of these players in the Barc v Madrid Semi Final did.ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
does it matter? they are bth considered cheating
so you saying one kind of cheating is ok but the other kind isnt? well that just devalidates your whole argument
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Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
i ask the same question
this al just seems to me like blind barca hate cause they are so successful
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.
lol
not every player at barca was diving and play acting either
Busquets and Masch were the culprits for barca, thats it.
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And a few others did and ive saw a lot of players in Spanish Football going down and even diving and then also play acting trying to get another player booked or sent off and it does not happpen as often in the British game.ViVaRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.
lol
not every player at barca was diving and play acting either
Busquets and Masch were the culprits for barca, thats it.
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:And a few others did and ive saw a lot of players in Spanish Football going down and even diving and then also play acting trying to get another player booked or sent off and it does not happpen as often in the British game.ViVaRooney wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.
lol
not every player at barca was diving and play acting either
Busquets and Masch were the culprits for barca, thats it.
Happens more than you admit these days in the British game too, no game goes without card waving, diving or surrounding the referee in any professional match anywhere.
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Real Madrid are just as bad. If that video on their website of Pepe's red was edited then they should get a big fine for that.
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I remember Rafael and Nani have both done that, Rio told them off though.Fine Shagger wrote:Happens more than you admit these days in the British game too, no game goes without card waving, diving or surrounding the referee in any professional match anywhere.
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kyro7 wrote:I remember Rafael and Nani have both done that, Rio told them off though.Fine Shagger wrote:Happens more than you admit these days in the British game too, no game goes without card waving, diving or surrounding the referee in any professional match anywhere.
Anderson does it shitloads.
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So is a thing that mostly foreign players do.Fine Shagger wrote:kyro7 wrote:I remember Rafael and Nani have both done that, Rio told them off though.Fine Shagger wrote:Happens more than you admit these days in the British game too, no game goes without card waving, diving or surrounding the referee in any professional match anywhere.
Anderson does it shitloads.
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:So is a thing that mostly foreign players do.Fine Shagger wrote:kyro7 wrote:I remember Rafael and Nani have both done that, Rio told them off though.Fine Shagger wrote:Happens more than you admit these days in the British game too, no game goes without card waving, diving or surrounding the referee in any professional match anywhere.
Anderson does it shitloads.
English players take the more direct approach - Terry pulls the card out of the referees hand and Gerrard tells him to send players off
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Yes, they're the best team in the world by a country mile. Anyone who can't admire the best team in football is watching the wrong sport. You don't have to like them, but admiration and liking are two completely different things.
I admire Barcelona for how good they are.
I admire Barcelona for how good they are.
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Grow the fuck up you sad pathetic cunt. And i was winding you up cause you have been cheeky and rude to me quite a lot on here. But what would me coming to London prove what are you going to do big hard man.Fonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
Why are you such a wee fucking pussy.
You thought you were smart
Come to london if you're going to be rude, but I wouldn't bet on you leaving that arm chair of yours
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Dean wrote:Yes, they're the best team in the world by a country mile. Anyone who can't admire the best team in football is watching the wrong sport. You don't have to like them, but admiration and liking are two completely different things.
I admire Barcelona for how good they are.
True. So did you admire the actions of the players on the field in both legs of this cup-tie?
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In the end, Barca will probably be remembered for the things they won more than the way they won it.
I could see 20 years from now Barca being hailed as the greatest team of all time. So they'll be admired.
The people who watched them firsthand will be the real judges though.
I could see 20 years from now Barca being hailed as the greatest team of all time. So they'll be admired.
The people who watched them firsthand will be the real judges though.
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ViVaRooney wrote:Laurencio wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats
grow up.
every team has divers which = cheating.
Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
i ask the same question
this al just seems to me like blind barca hate cause they are so successful
I would have said exactly the same had this been Liverpool vs ManUtd or Atlethico Bilbao vs Schalke. Seriously, it's not about what team did it, it's about what happened. The level and frequency of play acting in the semi final was an utter disgrace to football, and Barcelona were in fact the most frequent culprits.
I've said a million times that Barcelona, when they play football, are one of the best sides in the world and play some of the best brand of football out there. I think Lionel Messi is the best player I've seen since Diego Maradona and I think Pep Guardiola is a manager worthy of respect. I have nothing against Barcelona, other than how they acted in the semi-final.
Di Maria is the worst diver/cheat in Real Madrid and even he had to see himself beat by some Barcelona players.
I never condone of cheating. I admitt I might tolerate it if it's not too frequent, considering diving is fairly widespread, but that doesn't mean I like it or condone it. The way Barcelona and Real Madrid acted in the semi final however was utterly disgraceful and on a whole other level. Certain Barcelona players especially went out of their way to make the tie more about "acting talent" than football talent.
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Whats so funnyFonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Grow the fuck up you sad pathetic cunt. And i was winding you up cause you have been cheeky and rude to me quite a lot on here. But what would me coming to London prove what are you going to do big hard man.Fonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
Why are you such a wee fucking pussy.
You thought you were smart
Come to london if you're going to be rude, but I wouldn't bet on you leaving that arm chair of yours
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Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Whats so funnyFonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Grow the fuck up you sad pathetic cunt. And i was winding you up cause you have been cheeky and rude to me quite a lot on here. But what would me coming to London prove what are you going to do big hard man.Fonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
Why are you such a wee fucking pussy.
You thought you were smart
Come to london if you're going to be rude, but I wouldn't bet on you leaving that arm chair of yours
Your spelling, your whining.. basically everything about you
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Me and Egzon are going round to bang you up brav
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Your full of shit and you don't no everything about me. And your one to talk about moaning.Fonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Whats so funnyFonseca wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Grow the fuck up you sad pathetic cunt. And i was winding you up cause you have been cheeky and rude to me quite a lot on here. But what would me coming to London prove what are you going to do big hard man.Fonseca wrote:
You thought you were smart
Come to london if you're going to be rude, but I wouldn't bet on you leaving that arm chair of yours
Your spelling, your whining.. basically everything about you
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Please dont bud am off.Lux wrote:Me and Egzon are going round to bang you up brav