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    Barcelona... Are they really a team that should be admired?

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    Post by dena Wed May 04, 2011 11:34 am

    B0dunrin wrote:
    dena wrote:Is any modern day football team admirable?

    A lot of Championship teams, FC Porto, Bilbao.

    Yeah OK. Dig deep enough and you'll always hit dirt.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 04, 2011 11:39 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:Lifted it from a Liverpool site. It's real if you were wondering, the Pepe didn't touch Alves video was edited, with frames removed.

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    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Where is that picture from FS?

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:I accept that they're an excellent team, but I have lost all respect for them after their disgusting performances in the Champions League. Real Madrid should be in the Final, Pepe was wrongly sent off which allowed Barca to win at the Bernabeau, and 1-1 at Camp Nou would have been enough to send Madrid through.
    Madrid had players that were at it aswell. And if they had drew 0-0 how do you no that the game tonight would have went the same way and maybe Barcelona would have scored in the first leg you just dont no these things.

    You're right, I don't know, but it's the best guess we can make given what actually happened.
    Its the best guess you can give you mean. And how can you guess that the first game would have ended 0-0 even with 11 men each.

    Because Pepe had Messi in his pocket.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:49 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:Lifted it from a Liverpool site. It's real if you were wondering, the Pepe didn't touch Alves video was edited, with frames removed.

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    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Where is that picture from FS?

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:I accept that they're an excellent team, but I have lost all respect for them after their disgusting performances in the Champions League. Real Madrid should be in the Final, Pepe was wrongly sent off which allowed Barca to win at the Bernabeau, and 1-1 at Camp Nou would have been enough to send Madrid through.
    Madrid had players that were at it aswell. And if they had drew 0-0 how do you no that the game tonight would have went the same way and maybe Barcelona would have scored in the first leg you just dont no these things.

    You're right, I don't know, but it's the best guess we can make given what actually happened.
    Its the best guess you can give you mean. And how can you guess that the first game would have ended 0-0 even with 11 men each.

    Because Pepe had Messi in his pocket.

    But Pepe could have fell and broke his ankle or anything like that somebody else might have been sent off we just dont know.
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    Post by Childish Logic Wed May 04, 2011 12:28 pm

    I used to admire barcelona but this past fews week have been too much, They act like they are god's gift to earth. They are no where near.

    James ♠ wrote:In my opinion no.

    Anyone that doest't pass a ball across the ground are anti football according to them.
    They tap up players.
    Their manager is a dick.
    Their players are cheats.
    They do not abide by the 'respect the referees' rule.
    They have racist players.
    Then their fans/ballboys throw an extra ball on the pitch when the are under a little pressure.

    One dimensional manager and scum club.


    In before Jamie defends all of these things.

    agree with everything except the bold. That i don't get.
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    Post by Roloman4 Wed May 04, 2011 2:18 pm

    Of course, they play some magical football.
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    Post by Potato-7 Wed May 04, 2011 4:26 pm

    No.Scum club and overrated.They do have some magical players though,xavi,iniesta and messi.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 pm

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:But Pepe could have fell and broke his ankle or anything like that somebody else might have been sent off we just dont know.

    If you try to look at Football like that then you can't analyse anything properly. Real Madrid should have had a throw-in in the first game and it went to Barcelona, they could have scored from play relating to that throw in, we just don't know. You have to use what actually happened in the match, before and after particular incidents, in order to form a reasonable opinion.
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    Post by JK Wed May 04, 2011 8:21 pm

    I admire their skills on the ball and the football they play, but I absolutely hate the club.
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    Post by Mal Wed May 04, 2011 8:32 pm

    Great footballing side who conduct themselves in completely the wrong way.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 9:17 pm

    there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca
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    Post by MickStupp Wed May 04, 2011 9:47 pm

    I love watching them play, they are the most entertaining side around. But I detest the way they hound referees and how - some players - dive about.
    And they always do it, not just against Madrid, although it'll occur more often in those games.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed May 04, 2011 10:56 pm

    Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:10 pm

    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches
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    Post by LeBron Wed May 04, 2011 11:13 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    Well thats nice to know.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed May 04, 2011 11:13 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:26 pm

    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.

    but madrid was cheating and playing dirty too...

    THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT. read the fucking thing will you

    if the other teams job is to kick you out the match then ofcourse you gonna complain to refs, the only thing that was out of order was Busquets and MAscherano but those two are known for their antics... has nothing to do with barca
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:39 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:But Pepe could have fell and broke his ankle or anything like that somebody else might have been sent off we just dont know.

    If you try to look at Football like that then you can't analyse anything properly. Real Madrid should have had a throw-in in the first game and it went to Barcelona, they could have scored from play relating to that throw in, we just don't know. You have to use what actually happened in the match, before and after particular incidents, in order to form a reasonable opinion.
    So that proves you can't say what would have happened if Pepe was not sent off we dont know what would have happened.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:41 pm

    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral
    Exactly well said bud. But at least you no its ok for Manchester.United to cheat now when they get to the Final cause Barcelona will. Wink
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:45 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches
    Does not mean Barcelona or Madrid or any club is allowed to cheat or does it make it any better just cause it was their biggest rivals. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:49 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.

    but madrid was cheating and playing dirty too...

    THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT. read the fucking thing will you

    if the other teams job is to kick you out the match then ofcourse you gonna complain to refs, the only thing that was out of order was Busquets and MAscherano but those two are known for their antics... has nothing to do with barca
    Good then so if Ronaldo dives now its nothing to do with Real.Madrid or any other player for that matter. If they are playing for the certain club its up to them to try and respect that club without diving or play acting.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 04, 2011 11:52 pm

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.



    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.

    but madrid was cheating and playing dirty too...

    THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT. read the fucking thing will you

    if the other teams job is to kick you out the match then ofcourse you gonna complain to refs, the only thing that was out of order was Busquets and MAscherano but those two are known for their antics... has nothing to do with barca
    Good then so if Ronaldo dives now its nothing to do with Real.Madrid or any other player for that matter. If they are playing for the certain club its up to them to try and respect that club without diving or play acting.

    so liverpool are a cheating club aswell since masch was diving and play acting during his whole time there. ok

    every team is willing to cheat to win and barca does not do it any worse the anyone else so people get off your fucking perches
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    Post by Guest Thu May 05, 2011 12:12 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.

    but madrid was cheating and playing dirty too...

    THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT. read the fucking thing will you

    if the other teams job is to kick you out the match then ofcourse you gonna complain to refs, the only thing that was out of order was Busquets and MAscherano but those two are known for their antics... has nothing to do with barca
    Good then so if Ronaldo dives now its nothing to do with Real.Madrid or any other player for that matter. If they are playing for the certain club its up to them to try and respect that club without diving or play acting.

    so liverpool are a cheating club aswell since masch was diving and play acting during his whole time there. ok

    every team is willing to cheat to win and barca does not do it any worse the anyone else so people get off your fucking perches
    I did not see Mascherano play acting at Liverpool as bad as that but sometimes he over stepped the mark even when playing at Liverpool. And i never said Barcelona are the only club to cheat but what happened in the Semi Final certain players of both clubs should be ashamed. And if it was Liverpool or any other club i would have said the same its just not on.

    And what you posted there is so wrong.

    there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct


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    Post by Laurencio Thu May 05, 2011 12:17 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:Their football is second to none when they actually play. But they really could do without the play acting and pathetic cheating they've displayed in the champions leauge. Quite awful really.

    ViVaRooney wrote:there is nothing wrong with barca's conduct

    you guys probably just watch them in the CL and saw their antics against their biggest rial and think they are always like that

    which they arent. if madrid is gonna try and cheat then so will barca

    Cheating is OK because they just did it in the biggest club competition in Europe? Yeah that makes sense Neutral

    no against their biggest rivals...

    read will ya, Barca have hardly cheated in the other CL matches

    So cheating is fine as long as it's against their biggest rivals then? They didn't just cheat against Real Madrid, they cheated in the semi final of Europe's most prestigious club tournament. They deminished the reputation of the tournament in itself. I don't really care who their opposition is, we can't accept cheating on that level. It's simply unacceptable.

    but madrid was cheating and playing dirty too...

    THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL POINT. read the fucking thing will you

    if the other teams job is to kick you out the match then ofcourse you gonna complain to refs, the only thing that was out of order was Busquets and MAscherano but those two are known for their antics... has nothing to do with barca

    I am reading the entire thing. I just simply think your point is weak. You can't accept cheating no matter what. I'm not saying that Real Madrid weren't bad out there, but Barca were by FAR worse. Cheating can NEVER be excused, yet that's exactly what you are trying to do Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu May 05, 2011 12:18 am

    because EVERY TEAM cheats

    grow up.

    every team has divers which = cheating.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 05, 2011 12:23 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats

    grow up.

    every team has divers which = cheating.
    What does every team have players that do triple rolls and triple summersaults and play act like some of these players in the Barc v Madrid Semi Final did.
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    Post by Laurencio Thu May 05, 2011 12:27 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats

    grow up.

    every team has divers which = cheating.

    Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 05, 2011 12:31 am

    I'm sorry, but there's cheating and then there's Barca v Real Madrid. Disgusting games, both of them and an embarassment to football. Don't care if they play beautiful football or only do it when another team cheats, it was a disgrace.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu May 05, 2011 12:34 am

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:But Pepe could have fell and broke his ankle or anything like that somebody else might have been sent off we just dont know.

    If you try to look at Football like that then you can't analyse anything properly. Real Madrid should have had a throw-in in the first game and it went to Barcelona, they could have scored from play relating to that throw in, we just don't know. You have to use what actually happened in the match, before and after particular incidents, in order to form a reasonable opinion.
    So that proves you can't say what would have happened if Pepe was not sent off we dont know what would have happened.
    Of course we don't know for fucking certain, but that decision undoubtedly had a effect on the game. We have to use our intellects to work out what was likely to happen.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 05, 2011 12:39 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats

    grow up.

    every team has divers which = cheating.

    Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.

    I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.


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    Post by Jamie Thu May 05, 2011 12:41 am

    Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:because EVERY TEAM cheats

    grow up.

    every team has divers which = cheating.

    Not to the extent that we saw in the two semi final matches. I'm not a big fan of diving, in fact I despise it, but as long as it doesn't get "out of hand" then I can live with it. What Real Madrid and Barcelona in particular have displayed in the semi finals is nothing less than disgraceful.

    I mean ive watched football for a long time and ive saw Liverpool and Manchester.United have one or two players who haved dived but not that many. And i respect Manchester.United but ive not got much love for them and neither has any Liverpool fan really, but ive saw Ronaldo and Nani going down very easily but ive never saw any Manchester.United team have a team full of players acting like what i saw in that semi final and that's over the past 30 years of watching football.

    You've never seen Man Utd surround the referee?

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