Lucas is England's top tackler

Cam wrote:Thats why he isn't the top passer

according to dave he was last season

Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

Thats why I said it isnt anything special

Sean wrote:Thats why I said it isnt anything special

Wasn't referring to you.

Scouser_Dave wrote:Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:Just because he doesn't spray the passes 40 yards doesn't mean he isn't a good passer of the ball.

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

I don't see what's good about his passing either, Denilson is a good short passer of the ball but in general he's shite as hell

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

His job is to break up the play and pick out a pass to Meireles or Gerrard. He can play a decent pass if need be. Wouldn't be regularly picked for Brazil otherwise.

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

But your opinion on him now? I know he was an attacking midfielder and that he's adapted but for Brazil now? surely they're better options no?

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

So he's a decent passer and not a "good passer", he's picked for Brazil because other players aren't being picked. If Felipe Melo regained his form Lucas wouldn't be on the pitch. I acknowledge he does a good job but if he's so good at it then Mascherano must be beyond world class

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

But your opinion on him now? I know he was an attacking midfielder and that he's adapted but for Brazil now? surely they're better options no?

Thing is, Brazil have ALOT of attacking midfielders, but rares like Lucas who sit in middle (Busquets role) and dictate game. (Brazil don't really have players like this) I mean I don't see any better options to be honest. Who could it be? Sandro? Elias? Elano? they all don't fit as well as Lucas.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Lucas is much better than Melo, Dunga loved Melo's athleticism and that's why he played alot for Brazil...not saying he's a bad player or whatever but Lucas is more useful. He's well rounded, cool on the ball and knows how to win the ball smartly.

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

But your opinion on him now? I know he was an attacking midfielder and that he's adapted but for Brazil now? surely they're better options no?

Thing is, Brazil have ALOT of attacking midfielders, but rares like Lucas who sit in middle (Busquets role) and dictate game. (Brazil don't really have players like this) I mean I don't see any better options to be honest. Who could it be? Sandro? Elias? Elano? they all don't fit as well as Lucas.

Yeah but in all honesty, bias aside. Do you want to see him starting as a DM in 2014? or do you hope someone comes along who is better. I see Lucas as similar as Busquets but without all those great qualitys

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Melon didn't deserve to play and Dunga's just Dunga... I just don't think he's as exceptional as pool fans make him out to be, He wouldn't really be playing for the top 2 in spain or the top 4 in England even in rotation...

He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

But your opinion on him now? I know he was an attacking midfielder and that he's adapted but for Brazil now? surely they're better options no?

Thing is, Brazil have ALOT of attacking midfielders, but rares like Lucas who sit in middle (Busquets role) and dictate game. (Brazil don't really have players like this) I mean I don't see any better options to be honest. Who could it be? Sandro? Elias? Elano? they all don't fit as well as Lucas.

Yeah but in all honesty, bias aside. Do you want to see him starting as a DM in 2014? or do you hope someone comes along who is better. I see Lucas as similar as Busquets but without all those great qualitys

Whether he's in or not in I'm not really bothered because if he doesn't make it...Brazil have this 19 year old named Casemiro and he's a beast and will definitely be better than Lucas but I'm not sure if he will be ready by 2014. But if not, Lucas will only get better before 2014.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
He can play for Brazil though.

He is exceptional, before he moved to Liverpool in 07 he was top 5 best midfielders playing in South America.

But your opinion on him now? I know he was an attacking midfielder and that he's adapted but for Brazil now? surely they're better options no?

Thing is, Brazil have ALOT of attacking midfielders, but rares like Lucas who sit in middle (Busquets role) and dictate game. (Brazil don't really have players like this) I mean I don't see any better options to be honest. Who could it be? Sandro? Elias? Elano? they all don't fit as well as Lucas.

Yeah but in all honesty, bias aside. Do you want to see him starting as a DM in 2014? or do you hope someone comes along who is better. I see Lucas as similar as Busquets but without all those great qualitys

Whether he's in or not in I'm not really bothered because if he doesn't make it...Brazil have this 19 year old named Casemiro and he's a beast and will definitely be better than Lucas but I'm not sure if he will be ready by 2014. But if not, Lucas will only get better before 2014.

Fair enough, learnt something today

Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

I think his development's more down to his mental strength. If only all our players would react so strongly in such circumstances. We'd have a world class team with Eggnog, Poulsen and Konchesky being key players

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

Wow! Ohoho wow!

Shutup "Lucas is shit etc etc"



His face ain't boverd

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

Don't bother. He's just one of those people who thinks he's right.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

It's the typical "you don't watch him so you don't know" well I watch him enough in games and so does George who doesn't care if he's dropped from the squad. Would he make it at a top 4 club? no so he can't throw those shit excuses around

Jord wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

Don't bother. He's just one of those people who thinks he's right.

Keep avoiding the discussion, it's the best you can hope for

Fonseca wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

It's the typical "you don't watch him so you don't know" well I watch him enough in games and so does George who doesn't care if he's dropped from the squad. Would he make it at a top 4 club? no so he can't throw those shit excuses around

Really? George just said there's one wonderkid who could be better than him by 2014. And he called Lucas exceptional. I'm sure George does rate him.

Fonseca wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

It's the typical "you don't watch him so you don't know" well I watch him enough in games and so does George who doesn't care if he's dropped from the squad. Would he make it at a top 4 club? no so he can't throw those shit excuses around

Why do you think he's shit? You say he wouldn't even make the rotation of a top 4 squad then tell me why?

Why would he constantly get chosen by 3 different liverpool managers to be one of the first names on the team sheet? Why do our fans rate him so highly if he's that shit?

Because Scousers are delusional

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

Don't bother. He's just one of those people who thinks he's right.

Keep avoiding the discussion, it's the best you can hope for

Piss off. You can't have a discussion to save your life mate. You reply to my post "Is that the best you got!?" What the hell is that? You instantly think your view on Lucas is right.

Jord wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Jord wrote:Lucas, been scanning through this thread and people still give him hate. Little sly remarks and digs then the big "He wouldn't make it for a big 4 side". Until people watch Lucas week in week out like I do and alot of others do then they can't possibly understand how he's adapted and improved.

I would like to thank Gremio for developing such a fantastic player. Lucas Leiva

Is that the best you can come up with? "I don't watch him week in and week out"

Haha wow

His own game doesn't really show up much on the highlight reels though tbf.

It's the typical "you don't watch him so you don't know" well I watch him enough in games and so does George who doesn't care if he's dropped from the squad. Would he make it at a top 4 club? no so he can't throw those shit excuses around

Why do you think he's shit? You say he wouldn't even make the rotation of a top 4 squad then tell me why?

Why would he constantly get chosen by 3 different liverpool managers to be one of the first names on the team sheet? Why do our fans rate him so highly if he's that shit?

Did I say he was shit? no I just didn't think he was exceptional. Because a lot of more players have better ball winning attributes and distribution, now you tell me why my small brain can't withhold the true ability of Lucas

You tell me.. You tell me..

Alex Song nutmegged Messi.