Tbh, Arsenal were poor and a lot of teams could have given a better game.blackskar wrote:Dan wrote:grenade187 wrote:Scott wrote:I still reckon Liverpool would've given them a better game too. So would Chelsea and Spurs.
Arsenal are just unlucky that their style of play is easily halted by the Barca players. I mean, most of the La Liga teams do a better job at that Nou Camp than you did. I bet all of them got at least one shot on goal.
Deluded or what ?
Really? Who has had the better record against the big teams in Europe recently, Liverpool or Arsenal?
I don't think you'd have done much better personally.
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Just how far ahead is the PL from Serie A?
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Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona home European record against Liverpool P4 W0 D2 L2.
Barcelona home record against all other English clubs P26 W19 D7 L0
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Scott wrote:Just got to face the truth really. Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Spurs would've given Barca a better game than Arsenal did.
Can't believe you didn't have a single shotEmbarrassing.
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Inter > ACeasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Liverpool have a very important job to do though before they can give barca a good game as you claim... Qualify for the tournament firstScott wrote:Just got to face the truth really. Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Spurs would've given Barca a better game than Arsenal did.
Can't believe you didn't have a single shotEmbarrassing.
Chelsea - Had their chance blew it.
United - Dominated in the 2009 final, this barca team is argubly better and the united team has gotten worse
Spurs - They conceded four in the san siro. There conceding 8 if they play like that again
But defensively we didn't play like that against Milan in either leg
League position is irrelevant.
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Your two clubs havent played each other under the guardiola era. Irrelevant Fact.Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona home European record against Liverpool P4 W0 D2 L2.
Barcelona home record against all other English clubs P26 W19 D7 L0
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EdinsonCavani wrote:Inter > ACeasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Liverpool have a very important job to do though before they can give barca a good game as you claim... Qualify for the tournament firstScott wrote:Just got to face the truth really. Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Spurs would've given Barca a better game than Arsenal did.
Can't believe you didn't have a single shot
Chelsea - Had their chance blew it.
United - Dominated in the 2009 final, this barca team is argubly better and the united team has gotten worse
Spurs - They conceded four in the san siro. There conceding 8 if they play like that again
But defensively we didn't play like that against Milan in either leg
League position is irrelevant.
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
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Fanatic wrote:Tbh, Arsenal were poor and a lot of teams could have given a better game.blackskar wrote:Dan wrote:grenade187 wrote:Scott wrote:I still reckon Liverpool would've given them a better game too. So would Chelsea and Spurs.
Arsenal are just unlucky that their style of play is easily halted by the Barca players. I mean, most of the La Liga teams do a better job at that Nou Camp than you did. I bet all of them got at least one shot on goal.
Deluded or what ?
Really? Who has had the better record against the big teams in Europe recently, Liverpool or Arsenal?
I don't think you'd have done much better personally.
Hence me saying 'I don't think you'd have done much better'
Most teams go there and get rolled over with ease. Don't think Liverpool would have been any different. In the end the scoreline would have been the same and the stats would have been similar.
Just my opinion.
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No it means Spurs > Benitez and Milaneasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Inter > ACeasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Liverpool have a very important job to do though before they can give barca a good game as you claim... Qualify for the tournament firstScott wrote:Just got to face the truth really. Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Spurs would've given Barca a better game than Arsenal did.
Can't believe you didn't have a single shot
Chelsea - Had their chance blew it.
United - Dominated in the 2009 final, this barca team is argubly better and the united team has gotten worse
Spurs - They conceded four in the san siro. There conceding 8 if they play like that again
But defensively we didn't play like that against Milan in either leg
League position is irrelevant.
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
Leanardos inter milan is a different animal.
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Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona home European record against Liverpool P4 W0 D2 L2.
Barcelona home record against all other English clubs P26 W19 D7 L0
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Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona home European record against Liverpool P4 W0 D2 L2.
Barcelona home record against all other English clubs P26 W19 D7 L0
What's Liverpools home record against them?
just curious if it's all wins for barca
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blackskar wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Barcelona home European record against Liverpool P4 W0 D2 L2.
Barcelona home record against all other English clubs P26 W19 D7 L0
What's Liverpools home record against them?
just curious if it's all wins for barca
Not sure I just plucked that stat of a liverpool site.
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P4 W1 D1 L2
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EdinsonCavani wrote:No it means Spurs > Benitez and Milaneasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Inter > ACeasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Liverpool have a very important job to do though before they can give barca a good game as you claim... Qualify for the tournament first
Chelsea - Had their chance blew it.
United - Dominated in the 2009 final, this barca team is argubly better and the united team has gotten worse
Spurs - They conceded four in the san siro. There conceding 8 if they play like that again
But defensively we didn't play like that against Milan in either leg
League position is irrelevant.
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
Leanardos inter milan is a different animal.
I'll admit Benitez is an idiot, but it was pretty much the same squad which won the competition just months before
All that matters anyway is that we are in the final 8 of the Champions League, and whoever we face we'll give them a game, if it's Barca we most likely will go out but not without a fight.
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People said the same about us when we went to Nou camp and get rolled over. They had a far superior side and we still ended up winning. My opinion is that we would have given a better performance just like many other clubs. Arsenal were extremely poor.blackskar wrote:Fanatic wrote:Tbh, Arsenal were poor and a lot of teams could have given a better game.blackskar wrote:Dan wrote:grenade187 wrote:
Deluded or what ?
Really? Who has had the better record against the big teams in Europe recently, Liverpool or Arsenal?
I don't think you'd have done much better personally.
Hence me saying 'I don't think you'd have done much better'
Most teams go there and get rolled over with ease. Don't think Liverpool would have been any different. In the end the scoreline would have been the same and the stats would have been similar.
Just my opinion.
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Fanatic wrote:People said the same about us when we went to Nou camp and get rolled over. They had a far superior side and we still ended up winning. My opinion is that we would have given a better performance just loike many other clubs.arsenal were extremely poor.blackskar wrote:Fanatic wrote:Tbh, Arsenal were poor and a lot of teams could have given a better game.blackskar wrote:Dan wrote:
Really? Who has had the better record against the big teams in Europe recently, Liverpool or Arsenal?
I don't think you'd have done much better personally.
Hence me saying 'I don't think you'd have done much better'
Most teams go there and get rolled over with ease. Don't think Liverpool would have been any different. In the end the scoreline would have been the same and the stats would have been similar.
Just my opinion.
Fair enough.
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Other English teams would bring a different style to Barca. A more strength based one. Arsenal played Barca at their own game and only one thing was going to happen.
It would've been different if it was Liverpool.
Messi is good, but he hasn't come across the Greek yet.
It would've been different if it was Liverpool.
Messi is good, but he hasn't come across the Greek yet.
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I would agree with this but especially in Serie A a good manager is vital mainly because at board level these clubs are fucking idiotseasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:No it means Spurs > Benitez and Milaneasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Inter > ACeasley91 wrote:
But defensively we didn't play like that against Milan in either leg
League position is irrelevant.
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
Leanardos inter milan is a different animal.
I'll admit Benitez is an idiot, but it was pretty much the same squad which won the competition just months before
All that matters anyway is that we are in the final 8 of the Champions League, and whoever we face we'll give them a game, if it's Barca we most likely will go out but not without a fight.
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Cornholio wrote:Other English teams would bring a different style to Barca. A more strength based one. Arsenal played Barca at their own game and only one thing was going to happen.
It would've been different if it was Liverpool.
Messi is good, but he hasn't come across the Greek yet.
Bring back Arbeloa, job done.
He can jump on Suarez's back when Suarez scores the winner too.
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Don't think any defender is capable of containing Messi. Just when you think he can't do anymore he pulls another blinding piece of skill out the bag.
Defenders must have nightmares for months after they play him
Defenders must have nightmares for months after they play him
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Cornholio wrote:Other English teams would bring a different style to Barca. A more strength based one. Arsenal played Barca at their own game and only one thing was going to happen.
It would've been different if it was Liverpool.
Messi is good, but he hasn't come across the Greek yet.
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To be honest I don't think it helped Rafa when he was taking charge of a team that won competitions the year before with Jose Mourinho, how was he meant to follow Jose? It also didn't help when he was tactically poor, how can you not notice Maicon getting raped by Bale and NOT change tactics to mark Bale?EdinsonCavani wrote:I would agree with this but especially in Serie A a good manager is vital mainly because at board level these clubs are fucking idiotseasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:No it means Spurs > Benitez and Milaneasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:Inter > AC
League position is irrelevant.
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
Leanardos inter milan is a different animal.
I'll admit Benitez is an idiot, but it was pretty much the same squad which won the competition just months before
All that matters anyway is that we are in the final 8 of the Champions League, and whoever we face we'll give them a game, if it's Barca we most likely will go out but not without a fight.
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blackskar wrote:Don't think any defender is capable of containing Messi. Just when you think he can't do anymore he pulls another blinding piece of skill out the bag.
Defenders must have nightmares for months after they play him
Probably how Maicon felt after meeting Bale
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I agreeeasley91 wrote:To be honest I don't think it helped Rafa when he was taking charge of a team that won competitions the year before with Jose Mourinho, how was he meant to follow Jose? It also didn't help when he was tactically poor, how can you not notice Maicon getting raped by Bale and NOT change tactics to mark Bale?EdinsonCavani wrote:I would agree with this but especially in Serie A a good manager is vital mainly because at board level these clubs are fucking idiotseasley91 wrote:EdinsonCavani wrote:No it means Spurs > Benitez and Milaneasley91 wrote:
On aggregate against Inter = 6-5 to us.. so that would mean Spurs > Inter and Milan
Leanardos inter milan is a different animal.
I'll admit Benitez is an idiot, but it was pretty much the same squad which won the competition just months before
All that matters anyway is that we are in the final 8 of the Champions League, and whoever we face we'll give them a game, if it's Barca we most likely will go out but not without a fight.
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benitez just had to much ego and pride and disliked mourinho so much that he had to change the logistics of such a beast team. if he had kept the team the same way and even use a similar philosophy he had in liverpool instead of trying to do "tiki taka" football in internazionale he probably would still be coaching right now but he is to inept
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Re: Just how far ahead is the PL from Serie A?
by Childish Logic Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:51 am
Scott wrote:The-Reporter wrote:I think the game was drab and played at snail pace, i don't think Spurs could go past a Chelsea, a Real Madrid or a Bayern and god help them if they get Barcelona.
I personally think Spurs would give Barca a better game than Arsenal did.
same here.
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EdinsonCavani wrote:Last years Serie A champions beat the premier leagues Champions
Serie A has much more talent than the premier league its just the managers/board cant run the club properly.
The Serie A has players who might be technically gifted (or so they say) but they're not better footballers.
Milan just edged this game but it was still a draw and that's all they needed.
If Spurs had to they'd have destroyed Milan's defence because the Serie A is nothing compared to the Premier League.
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Craig Bellamy could rip the Greek with his eyes closed.Cornholio wrote:Other English teams would bring a different style to Barca. A more strength based one. Arsenal played Barca at their own game and only one thing was going to happen.
It would've been different if it was Liverpool.
Messi is good, but he hasn't come across the Greek yet.
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Another knee jerk thread, how quaint. Serie A is definately at a low point at the moment but people talk about it like it's some backwater European league like the Kosovo first division or something, if you want to evaluate Serie A in Europe compared to other nations please stop doing it on a "I just watched a Serie A team play for the first time in a month, they were bad, therefore Serie A sucks" format. Since 2000 3 Italian teams have won the CL, 2 from England. Want to make the sample smaller? Last 5; 2 for Italy, one for England. Even smaller? Last three years, 1 for all three 'big' leagues. Is there a gap in the overall leagues (England vs. Italy)? Sure. But there is no way to see it through since few teams take the Europa league seriously and bottom half teams from another country do not play each other, thus the only real credible method is to see how the creme of the crop of the division (Italy) fares vs. the rest of the Europe, and going by what matters most. Trophies. They are doing alright despite an overall downturn.
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