JMB_94 wrote:SSN are saying that Roy has been 'dissapointed' with the Liverpool supporters. He says that he hasn't yet witnessed the famous Anfield atmosphere.
Your thoughts?
I wish we'd blast him into the fucking atmosphere
JMB_94 wrote:SSN are saying that Roy has been 'dissapointed' with the Liverpool supporters. He says that he hasn't yet witnessed the famous Anfield atmosphere.
Your thoughts?
Pass and move, it's the Liverpool groove? Not any more. The Hodgson way is more hoof and pray. As endless long punts were hammered towards Fernando Torres and David Ngog during last night's defeat to Wolves, it became increasingly impossible to justify Roy Hodgson lasting at Anfield beyond the end of the week. Patience has its virtues, and chairmen can be trigger-happy, but it is hardly compulsory; Hodgson's time is up. He simply has to go. Forget about giving him extra time and the chance to dip into the transfer market in January. Trust has to be earned and Hodgson has failed. Liverpool are perched three points above the bottom three. Losing to Northampton Town, Blackpool and Wolves at Anfield in the space of six months, no matter what financial constraints Hodgson has had to work under, is a grotesque underachievement for a club of Liverpool's elevated standing.
For all his complaints about the situation he inherited from Rafael Benítez, Hodgson took over a squad containing Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher, Javier Mascherano, Steven Gerrard, Dirk Kuyt and Torres. Granted, he lost Mascherano to Barcelona but he also willingly parted with Alberto Aquilani, while bringing in the laughable pair of Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen. Although Liverpool were average last season, they still finished seventh. With the players at his disposal, Hodgson has introduced an ugly, negative route-one style, which last night saw the defence bypassing the midfield with alarming regularity.
These tactics might have sufficed at Fulham, but then Hodgson has often appeared dumbfounded by the level of expectation at Anfield. Not only is this approach unforgivable against Wolves, who were bottom of the table before the game and had amassed just one point on their travels all season, it is hopelessly misguided considering the players at Hodgson's disposal. Torres is not exactly Kevin Davies – he needs the ball played to feet or for him to run on to. He will never beat the likes of Christophe Berra in the air. Torres is a world-class striker being forced to operate like a lower-league journeyman, even if his form has been at that standard since the summer.
While Liverpool's players must take some responsibility too, clearly Hodgson has lost the dressing room, if he ever had it in the first place. Under Benítez, when Liverpool were losing games at Anfield, teams would brace themselves for the inevitable barrage as they defended their goal at the Kop End, waiting for Gerrard to pop up with a jaw-dropping equaliser. Last night there was nothing. With Wolves, whose sparky, attractive style of play belied their lowly position, required to do the bare minimum, dissent grew among the home supporters. Afterwards Hodgson was critical of the fans, questioning where the "famous support" had gone. He sounded like an away fan mocking a subdued home crowd about the lack of atmosphere. It almost appears as if he is getting his shots in early. Liverpool's supporters already disliked Hodgson. This will be seen as a step too far.
Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
Dan wrote:David Maddock: "In Hodgson, Liverpool have an old-fashioned manager who offers reminders of Joe Fagan."
Why do we have such a nationalistic media? The xenophobia from them last season was disgusting, now the pro-English shite they're spouting in defence of Roy is just as bad.
Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
ScottyBoy_21 wrote:Pass and move, it's the Liverpool groove? Not any more. The Hodgson way is more hoof and pray. As endless long punts were hammered towards Fernando Torres and David Ngog during last night's defeat to Wolves, it became increasingly impossible to justify Roy Hodgson lasting at Anfield beyond the end of the week. Patience has its virtues, and chairmen can be trigger-happy, but it is hardly compulsory; Hodgson's time is up. He simply has to go. Forget about giving him extra time and the chance to dip into the transfer market in January. Trust has to be earned and Hodgson has failed. Liverpool are perched three points above the bottom three. Losing to Northampton Town, Blackpool and Wolves at Anfield in the space of six months, no matter what financial constraints Hodgson has had to work under, is a grotesque underachievement for a club of Liverpool's elevated standing.
For all his complaints about the situation he inherited from Rafael Benítez, Hodgson took over a squad containing Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher, Javier Mascherano, Steven Gerrard, Dirk Kuyt and Torres. Granted, he lost Mascherano to Barcelona but he also willingly parted with Alberto Aquilani, while bringing in the laughable pair of Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen. Although Liverpool were average last season, they still finished seventh. With the players at his disposal, Hodgson has introduced an ugly, negative route-one style, which last night saw the defence bypassing the midfield with alarming regularity.
These tactics might have sufficed at Fulham, but then Hodgson has often appeared dumbfounded by the level of expectation at Anfield. Not only is this approach unforgivable against Wolves, who were bottom of the table before the game and had amassed just one point on their travels all season, it is hopelessly misguided considering the players at Hodgson's disposal. Torres is not exactly Kevin Davies – he needs the ball played to feet or for him to run on to. He will never beat the likes of Christophe Berra in the air. Torres is a world-class striker being forced to operate like a lower-league journeyman, even if his form has been at that standard since the summer.
While Liverpool's players must take some responsibility too, clearly Hodgson has lost the dressing room, if he ever had it in the first place. Under Benítez, when Liverpool were losing games at Anfield, teams would brace themselves for the inevitable barrage as they defended their goal at the Kop End, waiting for Gerrard to pop up with a jaw-dropping equaliser. Last night there was nothing. With Wolves, whose sparky, attractive style of play belied their lowly position, required to do the bare minimum, dissent grew among the home supporters. Afterwards Hodgson was critical of the fans, questioning where the "famous support" had gone. He sounded like an away fan mocking a subdued home crowd about the lack of atmosphere. It almost appears as if he is getting his shots in early. Liverpool's supporters already disliked Hodgson. This will be seen as a step too far.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/30/five-things-learned-premier-league
The bit in bold is so so so true.
Yes and counting the Hysel Final was a none game aswell after what happened not that i was the bothered but the Penalty that Juventus got to win it should have been a free kick the foul was yards outside the box, but what happened before made the game a none event R.I.P.Mr. Hassard wrote:Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
I think his two year spell in charge of Liverpool speaks for it's self....
Joe Fagan's Managerial Honours (all with Liverpool)
Winner
1984 Football League Cup
1984 League Championship (Level 1)
1984 European Cup
1984 English Manager of the Year
Runner-up
1983 Charity Shield
1984 Charity Shield
1984 Intercontinental Cup
1984 European Super Cup
1985 League Championship (Level 1)
1985 European Cup
Semi-finalist
1985 FA Cup
Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Yes and counting the Hysel Final was a none game aswell after what happened not that i was the bothered but the Penalty that Juventus got to win it should have been a free kick the foul was yards outside the box, but what happened before made the game a none event R.I.P.Mr. Hassard wrote:Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
I think his two year spell in charge of Liverpool speaks for it's self....
Joe Fagan's Managerial Honours (all with Liverpool)
Winner
1984 Football League Cup
1984 League Championship (Level 1)
1984 European Cup
1984 English Manager of the Year
Runner-up
1983 Charity Shield
1984 Charity Shield
1984 Intercontinental Cup
1984 European Super Cup
1985 League Championship (Level 1)
1985 European Cup
Semi-finalist
1985 FA Cup
Mr. Hassard wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Yes and counting the Hysel Final was a none game aswell after what happened not that i was the bothered but the Penalty that Juventus got to win it should have been a free kick the foul was yards outside the box, but what happened before made the game a none event R.I.P.Mr. Hassard wrote:Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
I think his two year spell in charge of Liverpool speaks for it's self....
Joe Fagan's Managerial Honours (all with Liverpool)
Winner
1984 Football League Cup
1984 League Championship (Level 1)
1984 European Cup
1984 English Manager of the Year
Runner-up
1983 Charity Shield
1984 Charity Shield
1984 Intercontinental Cup
1984 European Super Cup
1985 League Championship (Level 1)
1985 European Cup
Semi-finalist
1985 FA Cup
I am too young to remember that happening, but from what I've seen and read it looks and sounds like a horrible disaster Should the game even have gone ahead?
Dan wrote:Mr. Hassard wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Yes and counting the Hysel Final was a none game aswell after what happened not that i was the bothered but the Penalty that Juventus got to win it should have been a free kick the foul was yards outside the box, but what happened before made the game a none event R.I.P.Mr. Hassard wrote:Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
I think his two year spell in charge of Liverpool speaks for it's self....
Joe Fagan's Managerial Honours (all with Liverpool)
Winner
1984 Football League Cup
1984 League Championship (Level 1)
1984 European Cup
1984 English Manager of the Year
Runner-up
1983 Charity Shield
1984 Charity Shield
1984 Intercontinental Cup
1984 European Super Cup
1985 League Championship (Level 1)
1985 European Cup
Semi-finalist
1985 FA Cup
I am too young to remember that happening, but from what I've seen and read it looks and sounds like a horrible disaster Should the game even have gone ahead?
There'd have been riots if it had been cancelled. Would've been much worse.
Mr. Hassard wrote:Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Yes and counting the Hysel Final was a none game aswell after what happened not that i was the bothered but the Penalty that Juventus got to win it should have been a free kick the foul was yards outside the box, but what happened before made the game a none event R.I.P.Mr. Hassard wrote:Dan wrote:Now, I wasn't alive during the Fagan years, but I'm pretty sure that we weren't graced with this horrible to watch, long ball rubbish Roy has us playing.
I think his two year spell in charge of Liverpool speaks for it's self....
Joe Fagan's Managerial Honours (all with Liverpool)
Winner
1984 Football League Cup
1984 League Championship (Level 1)
1984 European Cup
1984 English Manager of the Year
Runner-up
1983 Charity Shield
1984 Charity Shield
1984 Intercontinental Cup
1984 European Super Cup
1985 League Championship (Level 1)
1985 European Cup
Semi-finalist
1985 FA Cup
I am too young to remember that happening, but from what I've seen and read it looks and sounds like a horrible disaster Should the game even have gone ahead?
mouseboy11 wrote:RAWK are already bashing that fucking marvuex and he hasn't even signed yet....from what i've seen he looks the type of player we need he's left footed and hugs the toucheline
NGreat wrote:mouseboy11 wrote:RAWK are already bashing that fucking marvuex and he hasn't even signed yet....from what i've seen he looks the type of player we need he's left footed and hugs the toucheline
He's central.
He often plays center mid for Rennes, might be a good addition but he's not going to be much better than Babel.
Dan wrote:NGreat wrote:mouseboy11 wrote:RAWK are already bashing that fucking marvuex and he hasn't even signed yet....from what i've seen he looks the type of player we need he's left footed and hugs the toucheline
He's central.
He often plays center mid for Rennes, might be a good addition but he's not going to be much better than Babel.
How can you possibly know that?
Give him a fucking chance.
Dan wrote:NGreat wrote:mouseboy11 wrote:RAWK are already bashing that fucking marvuex and he hasn't even signed yet....from what i've seen he looks the type of player we need he's left footed and hugs the toucheline
He's central.
He often plays center mid for Rennes, might be a good addition but he's not going to be much better than Babel.
How can you possibly know that?
Give him a fucking chance.
٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ wrote:Whos the geeze calling a fucking wanker?
Jord wrote:Lucky man Roy.. Lucky man.
Roy has probably lost the dressing room by now. I can't see the likes of Torres wanting to play for him anymore. Rumors about us on the verge of signing Marveaux. I couldn't care less right now, he won't change a thing. We have the best winger in the world Dirk Kuyt and even he's playing shite at the moment, I've never seen someone control a ball quite like him so having the touch of a rapist is an understatement.
I'll say it again.. If Roy ain't gone by the end of the week I'll fucking fall asleep and won't wake back up again.
I'm off to make a pot noodle. I'll leave you to figure it out.mouseboy11 wrote:Jord wrote:Lucky man Roy.. Lucky man.
Roy has probably lost the dressing room by now. I can't see the likes of Torres wanting to play for him anymore. Rumors about us on the verge of signing Marveaux. I couldn't care less right now, he won't change a thing. We have the best winger in the world Dirk Kuyt and even he's playing shite at the moment, I've never seen someone control a ball quite like him so having the touch of a rapist is an understatement.
I'll say it again.. If Roy ain't gone by the end of the week I'll fucking fall asleep and won't wake back up again.
Are you fucking kidding me?