Keyser Söze wrote:I could just as easily say that prior to that day and after that day there were no incidents because those yobbish fans involved didn't show up to those games. An FA Cup semi final that would attract those particular fans is a unique event. The police are present for every game at Hillsborough so they are a regular occurrence and never had an issue. You introduce a unique element to a routine event and you get a unique outcome, it's obvious what the issue is. Your line of logic isn't compatible with your opinion.
2 of the 9 jury's didn't agree with the findings. Extrapolate that and it's nearly 25% of the population. Remove any outside pressure, fear and bullying and that number would quickly rise.
Honestly feels like I'm beating a dead horse here, but.. yobbish fans showed up to all games all over the county. On this instance, Police/Official failings meant that the yobbish fans got access into the stadium. You're having a fucking laugh if you think (especially 27 years ago), the police never had to deal with that sort of thing other than on the day of Hillsborough. It happened all the time.
Like it's been repeated about 100 times now, the police failings on the day led to the events. On previous occasions, the Police/Officials did their job correctly. The day of Hillsborough, they failed.
That's a hell of a lot more likely a scenario than trying to say that maybe the Liverpool fans on the day were the only fans that behaved in that way
(again, especially when you're talking about 27 years ago).
Some of the stories I get told from my Dad, StepDad and even my Grandfathers make me cringe and wonder how they ever felt okay to go to a match with supporters like that around them. (Dad's a United fan, StepDad, Liverpool and Grandparents were Rangers/Celtic fans).
As for the bolded bit, lmao.. just lmao. Pressure? Fear of bullying? LMAO. Oh no.. the mighty Liverpool fans might revolt against us!
What about the Jury people who rule on cases involving extremely dangerous criminals who could potentially still have people on the outside? They still throw them in Jail, regardless and that's a MUCH scarier scenario. Just fucking lmao if you think in this day and age, measures weren't taken to ensure that there was no bias going into the proceedings.
2 out of 9 means roughly nearly 25% of the population would have agreed? That's way too small of a sample size for you to make such a claim
Bloody hell. You're getting a bit silly now, give your head a wobble.
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