My State Legalized Weed

ahlycotc wrote:

Bye_Ya wrote:

What do you have against it?

Weed is like any other drug that has bad effects of the body. If you want to use it for medical purposes, then just make it acceptable under certain controlled situations (which is already what happens in several states).

There is absolutely nothing to gain by making the recreational use of pot legal. I just find it silly when people cite scientific/medical uses for a drug even though they never think or intend to use that drug for those reasons. It's like when people argue that a glass of wine is good for your heart. Do you honestly drink alcohol for the health benefits or smoke pot because you are suffering from sever chronic pain?

You become more social, your awareness is broadened, you're relieved of pain, your lung capacity increases etc

Only bad effects are paranoia, but that such as fuck isn't severe

There's also tourism, tax and money made easily. It can cost $100 for a good seed which can turn into 1000's easily. The Netherlands sure as hell wouldn't get as much tourism as they do without the red light district and Marijuana which is why they can afford to make their country easily stable

I do think there are a lot of negative side effects if you do it all the time. I've seen a few guys slowly ruin their life by smoking it most days. It's like anything though, too much is bad, moderation is fine. So long as people don't go OTT being legal is great. If it was legal here, I'd treat it like alcohol, only every now and then.

What a disgusting decision.

Glen Damon wrote:What a disgusting decision.

It's okay Glen, the place will go to shit and it will just show every other state to not make the same mistake, this will be where everyone learns for the better and it will never be considered again.

Great decision, hopefully others follow.

Carlos Jenkinson wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Weed is like any other drug that has bad effects of the body. If you want to use it for medical purposes, then just make it acceptable under certain controlled situations (which is already what happens in several states).

There is absolutely nothing to gain by making the recreational use of pot legal. I just find it silly when people cite scientific/medical uses for a drug even though they never think or intend to use that drug for those reasons. It's like when people argue that a glass of wine is good for your heart. Do you honestly drink alcohol for the health benefits or smoke pot because you are suffering from sever chronic pain?

You become more social, your awareness is broadened, you're relieved of pain, your lung capacity increases etc

Only bad effects are paranoia, but that such as fuck isn't severe

There's also tourism, tax and money made easily. It can cost $100 for a good seed which can turn into 1000's easily. The Netherlands sure as hell wouldn't get as much tourism as they do without the red light district and Marijuana which is why they can afford to make their country easily stable

At the start of next year tourists wont be able to buy it. Only people who live there.

I'm still waiting for ahly to bring up as to why legalizing it is bad.

He just keeps saying the same general bullshit without explaining his own opinion.

Its just a plant at the end of they day. Alcohol is waaaaaaaay more harmful to your body.

Its only bad if you take it to try and solve your problems. Same as alcohol really.

I don't understand that logic.

alcohol is worse so weed should be legal.

Novi wrote:Its just a plant at the end of they day. Alcohol is waaaaaaaay more harmful to your body.

These two sentences drive me fucking nuts. You do know that there are countless poisonous plants out there? Does the fact that they're plants reduce their effect in any way? Also, saying that it's less harmful than alcohol is only an argument for making alcohol illegal, not making marijuana legal. The fact of the matter is that they are both harmful substances.

For me personally, I just don't understand the point of going out of your way to distort reality as you perceive it. We're blessed with minds that basically have no limits so why do people feel the need to create these superficial experiences by ingesting mind-altering substances?

Edit: Fuck you, NZG.

It's childish logic if anything.

Novi wrote:Its just a plant at the end of they day. Alcohol is waaaaaaaay more harmful to your body.

Its only bad if you take it to try and solve your problems. Same as alcohol really.

Alcohol is just plants too

I don't see the problem here...

Tax the shit it out of it like we do with tobacco and alcohol.

kyro7 wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:What a disgusting decision.

It's okay Glen, the place will go to shit and it will just show every other state to not make the same mistake, this will be where everyone learns for the better and it will never be considered again.

No. Places in the US that went to shit because of drugs are usually the places where the crack cocaine epidemic hit the hardest; it's not because of marijuana.

Now all the pot smokers will just move on to a regulated market instead of enriching drug dealers on the black market.

Childish Logic wrote:I don't understand that logic.

alcohol is worse so weed should be legal.

I don't think it's that bad logic, although people often say that if anything alcohol should be illegal instead.

Howevr, if alcohol was made illegal, everyone would go crazy, complaining about human rights and it being their choice and stuff. Plus we look back at the prohibition era like it was a bit stupid, so there is generally a feeling that alcohol should be legal. Now, if alcohol should be legal, then why can't another recreational drug which is potentially less harmful be legal?

kyro7 wrote:It's okay Glen, the place will go to shit and it will just show every other state to not make the same mistake, this will be where everyone learns for the better and it will never be considered again.

Not sure if srs.

Zzonked wrote:

Childish Logic wrote:I don't understand that logic.

alcohol is worse so weed should be legal.

I don't think it's that bad logic, although people often say that if anything alcohol should be illegal instead.

Howevr, if alcohol was made illegal, everyone would go crazy, complaining about human rights and it being their choice and stuff. Plus we look back at the prohibition era like it was a bit stupid, so there is generally a feeling that alcohol should be legal. Now, if alcohol should be legal, then why can't another recreational drug which is potentially less harmful be legal?

I don't hear that, i always hear that Weed should be legal because alcohol is legal. Alcohol isn't going anywhere like you said, it is ingrained into western culture.

The idea behind the prohibition was a good one but was badly implemented from my understanding. something that drinking wasn't illegal but you just couldn't sell it.

If a drug came out that was just as bad as smoking was? should it be legal? going by that logic, the new drug should be legal because something just as bad is legal.

I don't have a strong stance on weed, i don't know enough to say it should be banned but i know enough to know that weed isn't harmless.

The fact that a main point in the argument to legalize weed is that alcohol is legal is a terrible reason to legalize something. The failure to stop one drug doesn't mean we should accept more failure.

Mustangt125 wrote:On the other hand, if humans ceased to exist this very second, no other drugs would exist on the world and neither would alcohol.

Marijuana would.

And they can tax it to high hell, they'll make billions off it.

Ethanol (commonly referred to as alcohol) can naturally be produced in low amounts through the fermentation of rotten fruit and many substances containing starch.

Tobacco is a plant too.

They should just legalize everything and let the gene pool clean itself out.

Bonked wrote:They should just legalize everything and let the gene pool clean itself out.

This made me laugh hard.

San Pedro Cactus, Peyote, Psychedelic Mushrooms ect. Mustang didn't think it out before making that comment.

Natives have been getting high with stuff like this way before some CIA operative invented crack cocaine in a lab somewhere in Norther California and distributed it to the local Black population.

Ché Guayaba wrote:San Pedro Cactus, Peyote, Psychedelic Mushrooms ect. Mustang didn't think it out before making that comment.

Natives have been getting high with stuff like this way before some CIA operative invented crack cocaine in a lab somewhere in Norther California and distributed it to the local Black population.

You sound just like novi now

I thank that as a compliment of the highest order.

On the real though, that's just a theory(although a very plausible one)

The C.I.A.'s involvement in the cocaine trade is undeniable though and even president Reagan admitted to their involvement.

Ché Guayaba wrote:I thank that as a compliment of the highest order.

On the real though, that's just a theory(although a very plausible one)

The C.I.A.'s involvement in the cocaine trade is undeniable though and even president Reagan admitted to their involvement.

But to think they created it to fuck over the black population?

nah bro.

Why not? Crack cocaine came about in the 70's. Jim Crow Laws continued well into the mid 60's.

What you think in ten years time everyone suddenly stopped being a racist?

Ché Guayaba wrote:Why not? Crack cocaine came about in the 70's. Jim Crow Laws continued well into the mid 60's.

What you think in ten years time everyone suddenly stopped being a racist?

They wouldn't of passed if the cia was still full of racists especially if they were gonna unleash an addiction onto the black population.

Seems like another excuse by people to say it ins't the peoples fault they got addicted. It was the white man.

Childish Logic wrote:

Zzonked wrote:

Childish Logic wrote:I don't understand that logic.

alcohol is worse so weed should be legal.

I don't think it's that bad logic, although people often say that if anything alcohol should be illegal instead.

Howevr, if alcohol was made illegal, everyone would go crazy, complaining about human rights and it being their choice and stuff. Plus we look back at the prohibition era like it was a bit stupid, so there is generally a feeling that alcohol should be legal. Now, if alcohol should be legal, then why can't another recreational drug which is potentially less harmful be legal?

I don't hear that, i always hear that Weed should be legal because alcohol is legal. Alcohol isn't going anywhere like you said, it is ingrained into western culture.

The idea behind the prohibition was a good one but was badly implemented from my understanding. something that drinking wasn't illegal but you just couldn't sell it.

If a drug came out that was just as bad as smoking was? should it be legal? going by that logic, the new drug should be legal because something just as bad is legal.

I don't have a strong stance on weed, i don't know enough to say it should be banned but i know enough to know that weed isn't harmless.

The fact that a main point in the argument to legalize weed is that alcohol is legal is a terrible reason to legalize something. The failure to stop one drug doesn't mean we should accept more failure.

That's not exactly the logic behind it though. Alcohol is more comparable to weed in terms of use, they are both recreational, somewhat social drugs. It's not a complete issue of scale of damage, that's just part of it. You can't take this argument out of this context and apply it to everything, it has to fit the mould.

Novi wrote:

Carlos Jenkinson wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Weed is like any other drug that has bad effects of the body. If you want to use it for medical purposes, then just make it acceptable under certain controlled situations (which is already what happens in several states).

There is absolutely nothing to gain by making the recreational use of pot legal. I just find it silly when people cite scientific/medical uses for a drug even though they never think or intend to use that drug for those reasons. It's like when people argue that a glass of wine is good for your heart. Do you honestly drink alcohol for the health benefits or smoke pot because you are suffering from sever chronic pain?

You become more social, your awareness is broadened, you're relieved of pain, your lung capacity increases etc

Only bad effects are paranoia, but that such as fuck isn't severe

There's also tourism, tax and money made easily. It can cost $100 for a good seed which can turn into 1000's easily. The Netherlands sure as hell wouldn't get as much tourism as they do without the red light district and Marijuana which is why they can afford to make their country easily stable

At the start of next year tourists wont be able to buy it. Only people who live there.

That law is not happening. It was confirmed last week, I think.

It's weird the US legalising weed before Canada. USA more progressive socially. Go figure...