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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:29 pm

    Looks like The SFA have fucked up ... again. They held back Rangers league winnings from last season + accepted a payment from Rangers which was all to go to Scottish clubs owned money by us from the administration process ... Dundee Utd claim not to have been paid.

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    #SPL cash flow problem means clubs still await vital broadcasting/sponsorship payment that was due at start of month. More soon #BBCSport

    Chris McLaughlin ‏@BBCchrismclaug

    The #SFL are also due to be paid by #SPL but have been told they'll have to wait. #BBCSport

    The SPL don't need Rangers ... rofl rofl
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:33 am

    The SPL agreed to pay the £31,000 to Dundee Utd (18/5/12) using our competition money i.e. finishing 2nd in the league ... almost 3 months later, still not paid. Why not SPL, no money? Why don't you fine us again, that'll sort it.

    PS. You don't need Rangers ... lol.

    SPL's balance sheet is insolvent!

    The latest available Accounts for the SPL show an insolvent balance sheet, with liabilities exceeding assets by £196,000.

    The directors of the SPL approved the Accounts on a going concern basis because they were:

    "... of the opinion that the existence of contracted income will allow the company to meet its liabilities as they fall due for the foreseeable future."

    One wonders how well founded that opinion was! The Accounts were signed off by the SPL on 15 August 2011, at a time when we were all but crippled by the EBT investigation which would certainly lead to administration (at least) if the FTT went against us. In arriving at their opinion, did the SPL directors take into account what the effects would be on the SPL's ability to pay its debts if Rangers was no longer a member? If not, why not?

    Rangers were denied SPL membership by a company whose own most recently published balance sheet was insolvent. Only in bigoted little Scotland.

    The accounts can be seen here from the following PDF here: http://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=07976fd6c504386934863f4cadc7fe9a

    With the relevant account information found on pages 17 and 21. (Page 6 and 8 of the accounts)

    Edit: Moritz trial has ended, we couldn't guarantee him a contract so he didn't want to play in the bounce game and risk injury. Posted on Twitter he was gutted, "wanted to be a ranger".
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:46 am

    Over 41,000 tickets sold for the game vs East Stirling eek2

    Edit: According to the official website, there's less than 4000 left.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:38 am

    Congratulations to Dean Shiels on his 2 assists for Northern Ireland tonight! Smile

    Also big congrats to the Scotland fans tonight on booing Ian Black when he came on for Scotland clap clap ... Tartan Trannies! Fucking disgraceful, and you still didn't play our best left back.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:44 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Congratulations to Dean Shiels on his 2 assists for Northern Ireland tonight! Smile

    Also big congrats to the Scotland fans tonight on booing Ian Black when he came on for Scotland clap clap ... Tartan Trannies! Fucking disgraceful, and you still didn't play our best left back.

    #Jelalogic - SPL Player Of The Year from last season <<<<<<<<<< Player plying trade in fourth tier of Scottish football. rofl rofl rofl

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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:06 am

    Anestis Argyriou joins on trial. AEK Athens CB/RB, played 11 times last season ... they are trying to get rid of players due to financial troubles.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:08 am

    This is fucking hilarious, The SFA withheld the £800k that Southampton paid us for Davis (there was a rumour that it was in instalments, that was bullshit, they got it all upfront) ... and they used it to pay off some of their own debts. The even funnier thing is, apparently we could go to court and apply to put them into administration because their accounts are already insolvent, it gets even better by the day haha. rofl

    Another positive, we had sold over 32,000 Season Tickets when the ticket office closed last night. Smile So, that's 2000 in 4 hours, the online service is still down due to being overloaded lol and they're still turning people away every night due to the size of the queue Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:04 am

    So true.
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    Post by MickStupp Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:36 am

    The Maestro wrote:So true.
    I have tried the ticket service, couldn't get through.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:40 am

    MickStupp wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:So true.
    I have tried the ticket service, couldn't get through.

    Somebody was charged £40 from trying to phone, took him 7 hours of constant calling to get through. Laughing
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:41 am

    I tried calling them, couldn't get through.

    Ticket office is busy as fuck man! Must be all our fans flocking to buy season tickets, bfitfw!!!! fans buying tickets!?!?! fucking WINx11-2=8

    WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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    Post by ayvee1 Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:54 am

    Calm down Maestro.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:55 am

    ayvee1 wrote:Calm down Maestro.

    I'm calm.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:14 am

    What the fuck happened to this page? eek

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    Scottish Football Association: The Rangers Football Club Already Making Trouble

    Less than a month into the new Scottish soccer season and the SFA’s newest member club is causing trouble.

    Before I go on, you may consider the repeated use of “Rangers Football Club” and “The Rangers Football Club” unnecessary.

    This is actually a necessary distinction to make as “Rangers Football Club” is the club formed in 1872, which is no longer a member of the SFA and will soon be liquidated.

    “The Rangers FC” is the new name of Sevco Scotland, a consortium fronted by former Sheffield United FC Chief Executive Charles Green, which purchased the assets of Rangers Football Club in June this year.

    They are two separate, unrelated legal entities, one of which has purchased the real estate of the other.

    A fiction has emerged amongst Rangers supporters that somehow the “club” and the “company” are separate and that The Rangers Football Club Ltd has purchased Rangers Football Club from Rangers plc.

    This is emphatically not the case.

    There is no legal distinction or difference between the club and the company. They are one and the same.


    In 1872, Rangers Football Club was a club. That is, a group of individuals who have come together to form an association with members and are run by a committee.

    A club’s members pay an annual subscription, and its members are personally liable for any debts incurred by the club.

    Around the turn of the 20th century, most soccer clubs in the UK incorporated, partly to raise funds and partly to protect members from having to pay debts from their own pockets.

    Incorporation means that the club sells shares in itself, and the new directors are not personally liable for any debts incurred.

    So it was that in 1899 Rangers Football Club incorporated.

    Investors bought shares in the club, which changed its legal status from a club to a private company limited by shares.

    The new investors owned shares in Rangers Football Club, which was now called Rangers Football Club Ltd, the wording which to this day adorns the gates of Ibrox Stadium.

    There was, and is, no separate company and club.

    In the early 1980’s, Rangers Football Club Ltd was floated on the stock market.

    This involved another change in legal status, from a private limited company to a public limited company.

    In the UK, the names of public companies are not allowed to end in "Ltd,” or “Limited,” so Rangers Football Club Ltd became Rangers plc.

    As a public company, a controlling interest in Rangers plc could be purchased by anyone with the cash to buy the necessary number of shares and a willing seller.

    So it was that in 1988 a controlling interest in Rangers plc was purchased by David Murray and Rangers plc became part of Murray International Holdings.

    Then in 2011, Murray’s shares in Rangers plc were purchased by Wavetower, owned by Craig Whyte.

    After completing the purchase, Wavetower adopted the name, “The Rangers FC Group Limited.”

    Neither of these takeovers required a transfer of Rangers’ membership of the SFA to the new company who had bought Rangers plc.

    Charles Green’s Sevco Scotland (now The Rangers Football Club Ltd) consortium did not buy Rangers plc, the legal entity formed in 1872.

    They purchased Ibrox Stadium, the Murray Park training complex and a car park.

    That is why Rangers’ SFA membership had to be transferred from Rangers Football Club to The Rangers Football Club.

    You cannot "transfer" something from yourself to yourself!


    The Rangers FC did not qualify for SFA membership as they do not have the three years’ worth of audited accounts required, so in a quirky deal, the SFA agreed to transfer the membership of the now defunct Rangers FC to the company who purchased the assets and business of the old club.

    As a condition of transferring the membership, The Rangers FC had to agree to pay all debts owed to Scottish soccer clubs by the now defunct Rangers FC.

    This week, following rumblings of discontent over The Rangers FC signing several players beyond the price range of most SPL clubs, Green announced that The Rangers FC has paid all debts owed by the now defunct Rangers FC.

    That it seemed, was that.

    Until yesterday, when Dundee United FC released a statement that, contrary to Green’s announcement, they have still not received their full share of the gate money for the Scottish Cup tie played at Ibrox in February.

    This statement has sparked a great deal of confusion, with Green claiming that the SPL had earlier agreed to pay the money to Dundee United, which the SPL deny.

    The dispute hinges on a letter written by the SPL to Rangers FC on May 18, informing Rangers that their prize money from finishing in second place in season 2011-12 would be withheld and distributed to those clubs owed money by the now defunct club.

    Green stated:

    “A letter from the SPL to the club—dated May 18, 2012—stated: ‘The board decided to accede to the application of Dundee United and accordingly, the sum will be withheld from the next sum payable by the SPL Limited to Rangers and the sum will be paid by the SPL Limited to Dundee United.’ Why the SPL have not paid Dundee United the outstanding sum as previously agreed is a question that they need to answer. We wrote to Dundee Utd on Monday explaining the SPL had previously confirmed they would pay it.”

    Not strictly true. On May 18, The Rangers Football Club did not exist.

    It was formed on May 29 (as Sevco Scotland) and did not buy the business and assets of Rangers Football Club until June 14.

    So the SPL wrote to Rangers Football Club at a time when it was still a member of the SPL and clinging on to life by its fingertips.

    Working on the assumption that Rangers Football Club would still be a member of the SPL this season, the SPL agreed that they would withhold prize money from Rangers Football Club and distribute it to its Scottish soccer creditors.

    The SPL’s agreement, then, was with Rangers Football Club.

    No such agreement was made with The Rangers Football Club, which is a different club, and has no right to the prize money won by Rangers FC last season.

    Following protracted negotiations, The Rangers Football Club was granted Rangers FC’s membership of the SPL with several conditions, one of which was that The Rangers Football Club would pay any money owed by Rangers Football Club to other Scottish clubs.

    Charles Green and The Rangers Football Club agreed to that condition but are now claiming that they should not have to pay money owed to Dundee United.

    The Rangers Football Club appears to be in clear breach of the agreement by which they were granted membership of the SFA.

    The SFA must now either act to ensure The Rangers Football Club keeps its agreement to pay Rangers FC’s Scottish soccer debt, or lose control of the situation altogether.

    Whether there exists the will within the SFA to do so remains to be seen.

    Breaking its own rules to admit The Rangers Football Club is turning out to be a major mistake by the Scottish Football Association.


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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:51 am

    Bleacher Report? well seen you didn't post the link!! rofl rofl

    They don't even have staff, random people send in articles lol.


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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:51 am

    Where are the inaccuracies?
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:52 am

    Haven't even read it, I googled it, seen it was bleacher report, took no interest. As I said, they don't have writers/staff, people just send stuff in. Who wrote this? Pretty obvious.
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    Post by Kuled Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:31 am

    Bold oh god why
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:43 am

    dafuq
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    Post by Bushido Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:44 am

    Me gusta Me Boldsta
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    Post by MickStupp Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:32 am

    Cannot believe this still goes on.

    "It's important to understand that the appointment of liquidators will not mean the end of football at Ibrox - only the end of the company that ran the club," said Cohen.
    One of the liquidators of the oldco. I know you've acted like a legal expert the past few months Maestro but I'll go along with the professional opinion here.

    And I've already said before that BR is non-sense, you only have to look at that contributor's previous articles to notice the bias.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:38 am

    MickStupp wrote:Cannot believe this still goes on.

    "It's important to understand that the appointment of liquidators will not mean the end of football at Ibrox - only the end of the company that ran the club," said Cohen.
    One of the liquidators of the oldco. I know you've acted like a legal expert the past few months Maestro but I'll go along with the professional opinion here.

    And I've already said before that BR is non-sense, you only have to look at that contributor's previous articles to notice the bias.

    Of course it's not the end of football at Ibrox, the new club purchased Ibrox and plays football there. As for the second part, it is the end of the Club.

    The guys at BDO whose job it is to go in and liquidated it is twisting his words, much like Duff & Phelps did, kept you happy and you kept quiet.

    If Club and company are different then show the two entities, what they are called, as they would surely have to different company numbers?
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:15 am

    Waiting...
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:35 am

    The club have suspended Season Ticket sales until next week due to the phenomenal demand.
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    Post by Guest Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:39 am

    rofl
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    Post by JORDY_RFC Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:21 am

    barrie mckay looked amazing again today
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:54 am

    There was a board meeting today ...

    Charles Green has discussed if we get by Falkirk in the cup and draw an SPL team at Ibrox he will make the tickets £1 as long as you buy a £14 programme. Meaning the SPL club would only get half of the ticket price and the £14 going to us.

    rofl

    Brilliant idea! not worthy
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    Post by ayvee1 Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:56 am

    That's real low.
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    Post by Guest Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:01 pm

    ayvee1 wrote:That's real low.

    You never helped us, so why should we help you?

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