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    What should the best full back in the world be good at?

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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:33 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
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    chiboygeorge wrote:Roberto Carlos is 500x the player Ashley Cole is. And Maicon have one game and he's shit at defending? What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 70955

    lolwut?
    Ashley Cole is nowhere near the player R. Carlos is and never will be. What has Cole done other than win the premier league? Laughing

    Won the FA Cup, and been in the FA Cup final and lost on penalties..

    Roberto Carlos played for an amazing Real Madrid and Brazil side, Ashley Cole plays for a quality Chelsea and a shit England side. Neutral

    Ashley Cole is as good as if not better than Roberto Carlos defensively imo, and he's got a better engine than that little bald cunt. -_-

    This coming from a person that doesn't even like Cole. Neutral
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    Post by chiboygeorge Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:38 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Roberto Carlos is 500x the player Ashley Cole is. And Maicon have one game and he's shit at defending? What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 70955

    lolwut?
    Ashley Cole is nowhere near the player R. Carlos is and never will be. What has Cole done other than win the premier league? Laughing

    Won the FA Cup, and been in the FA Cup final and lost on penalties..

    Roberto Carlos played for an amazing Real Madrid and Brazil side, Ashley Cole plays for a quality Chelsea and a shit England side. Neutral

    Ashley Cole is as good as if not better than Roberto Carlos defensively imo, and he's got a better engine than that little bald cunt. What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 881856

    This coming from a person that doesn't even like Cole. Neutral
    R. Carlos won the CL 3x, he was the most feared left back in Europe a couple of years ago....Roberto Carlos was one of the backbones for Brazil and Real Madrid, no way his defending is worse that Cole, people who knew and watched R. Carlos geniunely will know Cole is not as good as him. Laughing
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:39 am

    Maybe I'm just deluded, but you're not giving Cole enough credit for how good he is.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:45 am

    NGreat wrote:
    (polskaGOLA) wrote:So.... is chiboygeorge a anti-english xenophobic racist fuck just like me than? Rolling Eyes

    No?

    Double Standards much?

    But @Kyro, just like ChiBoyGeorge is saying, There isn't a comparison.

    Roberto Carlos was one of the best leftbacks in History. Cole? Not so much.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:49 am

    Well I think if Ashley Cole was born Brazilian and played for that Madrid team, you'd think much higher of him.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:51 am

    I'd probably like him more(unless he switched from Atletico to Real for the money like the real Cole did with Arsenal+Chelsea) true,

    but Roberto Carlos was just something else. A different level.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:51 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Roberto Carlos is 500x the player Ashley Cole is. And Maicon have one game and he's shit at defending? What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 70955

    lolwut?
    Ashley Cole is nowhere near the player R. Carlos is and never will be. What has Cole done other than win the premier league? Laughing

    Won the FA Cup, and been in the FA Cup final and lost on penalties..

    Roberto Carlos played for an amazing Real Madrid and Brazil side, Ashley Cole plays for a quality Chelsea and a shit England side. Neutral

    Ashley Cole is as good as if not better than Roberto Carlos defensively imo, and he's got a better engine than that little bald cunt. What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 881856

    This coming from a person that doesn't even like Cole. Neutral
    R. Carlos won the CL 3x, he was the most feared left back in Europe a couple of years ago....Roberto Carlos was one of the backbones for Brazil and Real Madrid, no way his defending is worse that Cole, people who knew and watched R. Carlos geniunely will know Cole is not as good as him. Laughing

    Djimi Traore has 1 CL medal, Cole has 0. Does that mean that Traore is the better player?
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    Post by Jamie Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:53 am

    Dan wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Roberto Carlos is 500x the player Ashley Cole is. And Maicon have one game and he's shit at defending? What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 70955

    lolwut?
    Ashley Cole is nowhere near the player R. Carlos is and never will be. What has Cole done other than win the premier league? Laughing

    Won the FA Cup, and been in the FA Cup final and lost on penalties..

    Roberto Carlos played for an amazing Real Madrid and Brazil side, Ashley Cole plays for a quality Chelsea and a shit England side. Neutral

    Ashley Cole is as good as if not better than Roberto Carlos defensively imo, and he's got a better engine than that little bald cunt. What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 881856

    This coming from a person that doesn't even like Cole. Neutral
    R. Carlos won the CL 3x, he was the most feared left back in Europe a couple of years ago....Roberto Carlos was one of the backbones for Brazil and Real Madrid, no way his defending is worse that Cole, people who knew and watched R. Carlos geniunely will know Cole is not as good as him. Laughing

    Djimi Traore has 1 CL medal, Cole has 0. Does that mean that Traore is the better player?

    Yes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh4aarbLfeA
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:53 am

    Djimi Traore doesn't have 3 however.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:55 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:Djimi Traore doesn't have 3 however.

    Err. What has that got to do with anything I said.


    @Jamie, obviously, but these biased types like to think that other players are better than the great Djimi. Imbeciles.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:59 am

    kyro7 wrote:Well I think if Ashley Cole was born Brazilian and played for that Madrid team, you'd think much higher of him.
    I don't think Cole is good enough for that Madrid team... Laughing Not even the Brazil one.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:00 am

    It has everything Dan.

    Think about it, Carlos was part of a team that won consistently at the highest level.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:00 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Well I think if Ashley Cole was born Brazilian and played for that Madrid team, you'd think much higher of him.
    I don't think Cole is good enough for that Madrid team... Laughing Not even the Brazil one.

    Funnily enough, exactly what Egzon was saying earlier before you lot decided he was an anti-English xenophobe. Neutral
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    Post by chiboygeorge Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:02 am

    Dan wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Roberto Carlos is 500x the player Ashley Cole is. And Maicon have one game and he's shit at defending? What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 70955

    lolwut?
    Ashley Cole is nowhere near the player R. Carlos is and never will be. What has Cole done other than win the premier league? Laughing

    Won the FA Cup, and been in the FA Cup final and lost on penalties..

    Roberto Carlos played for an amazing Real Madrid and Brazil side, Ashley Cole plays for a quality Chelsea and a shit England side. Neutral

    Ashley Cole is as good as if not better than Roberto Carlos defensively imo, and he's got a better engine than that little bald cunt. What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 881856

    This coming from a person that doesn't even like Cole. Neutral
    R. Carlos won the CL 3x, he was the most feared left back in Europe a couple of years ago....Roberto Carlos was one of the backbones for Brazil and Real Madrid, no way his defending is worse that Cole, people who knew and watched R. Carlos geniunely will know Cole is not as good as him. Laughing

    Djimi Traore has 1 CL medal, Cole has 0. Does that mean that Traore is the better player?
    I put 3x CL medals to show how many honors he has...and that wasn't the only factor, Carlos was feared in Europe...Cole is just another good left back but not a special like R. Carlos. simples.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:02 am

    James wrote:
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    James wrote:I think Ashley Cole must be the best full back in the world.

    Lol.

    Who you gonna say? Marcelo?

    Sergio Ramos looks good in a Spanish team that keeps the ball for 90% of the game. He can be caught out defensively as well.

    Marcelo's been outstanding recently, better than Cole
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:03 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:It has everything Dan.

    Think about it, Carlos was part of a team that won consistently at the highest level.

    Fine, let's take your analogy. Is Darren Fletcher (who has 3 Premier League titles) better than Steven Gerrard (who has 0 Premier League medals)?
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    Post by chiboygeorge Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:06 am

    Dan wrote:
    (polskaGOLA) wrote:It has everything Dan.

    Think about it, Carlos was part of a team that won consistently at the highest level.

    Fine, let's take your analogy. Is Darren Fletcher (who has 3 Premier League titles) better than Steven Gerrard (who has 0 Premier League medals)?
    It's not that, R. Carlos was one of the main guys to them winning those 3x CL. Cole is one of Chelsea's best and if you put him on that Real Madrid team...they wouldn't be as good.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:09 am

    Dan wrote:
    (polskaGOLA) wrote:It has everything Dan.

    Think about it, Carlos was part of a team that won consistently at the highest level.

    Fine, let's take your analogy. Is Darren Fletcher (who has 3 Premier League titles) better than Steven Gerrard (who has 0 Premier League medals)?

    No that's not taking it. That's dodging the point.

    You asked "Is Traore better than Cole because he has 1 championship trophy compared to Cole's 0?" in response to Chiboy's statement of "Carlos having 3x champions while Cole 0x"

    I responded with my point that unlike Traore, Carlos has played at the highest level and won consistently.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:26 am

    Lahm is the best full back.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:09 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    (polskaGOLA) wrote:It has everything Dan.

    Think about it, Carlos was part of a team that won consistently at the highest level.

    Fine, let's take your analogy. Is Darren Fletcher (who has 3 Premier League titles) better than Steven Gerrard (who has 0 Premier League medals)?

    No that's not taking it. That's dodging the point.

    You asked "Is Traore better than Cole because he has 1 championship trophy compared to Cole's 0?" in response to Chiboy's statement of "Carlos having 3x champions while Cole 0x"

    I responded with my point that unlike Traore, Carlos has played at the highest level and won consistently.


    Fletcher has played as high a level as he can and won consistently. Gerrard has played at the highest and not won consistently. Does that mean Fletcher is better? NO. Trophies mean nothing when judging a player.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:13 am

    He needs to be good at kicking the ball and running up the pitch, and sometimes running back down the pitch to defend and kick the ball up the pitch, or sometimes run up the pitch while kicking the ball. Or sometimes run up the pitch with the ball but not using his hands.
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    Post by AriseForLife Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:13 am

    James wrote:Attacking?

    Defending?

    Both?



    Cos Maicon is shit at defending. What should the best full back in the world be good at? - Page 4 644235

    See Gianluca Zambrotta when he was at Juventus if you want a perfect example of what a full back should be. He was considerably better than anyone on the planet by a comfortable distance.
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:39 am

    Yah, how Zambrotta was ignored in the poll a while back is a complete mystery too me.
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    Post by AriseForLife Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:59 am

    I think it's because most people never really saw him play. A lot of people here don't really watch much Serie A.

    In my opinion Luca was the best full back in the planet since Lippi converted him from a wide midfielder. He immediately made that position his and shut down the entire side of the field he would play on. Equally as good playing left of right back.
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    Post by Cornholio Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:24 pm

    Has "Football" been said?

    I'll go with football.
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    Post by SBSP Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:24 pm

    Ryan wrote:Has "Football" been said?

    I'll go with football.
    not worthy
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    Post by El_indian Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:36 pm

    Arbeloa is hugely underrated IMO
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    Post by SBSP Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:49 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:Lahm is the best full back.
    Are you obsessed with Lahm or something? shifty
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    Post by Guest Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:56 pm

    AriseForLife wrote:I think it's because most people never really saw him play. A lot of people here don't really watch much Serie A.

    In my opinion Luca was the best full back in the planet since Lippi converted him from a wide midfielder. He immediately made that position his and shut down the entire side of the field he would play on. Equally as good playing left of right back.

    Arise join Tiki-Taka for me pweeze, you'd fit right in. Laughing
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    Post by Cornholio Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:15 pm

    You both should stay over there.

    It's unfair that you mock us all with your far superior football knowledge, and your profound ideas which we all struggle to comprehend.

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