Does English football have a massive racism problem?

Jord wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Friend, Liverpool are actually a good example of it because they spent the same amount that Barca spent on Villa and Fabregas but they got Carroll, Downing and Henderson. How what justified their price tags?

In the case of Villa and Cesc, their world class talent.

Answer me this Jord, Carroll, Henderson and Downing, are they world class talent?

No they are not. Henderson will keep improving though.

ahlycotc wrote:

Lux wrote:

What are you laughing about, BNP member?

Lux wrote:Anyway I mistook the title of the thread for the question, and voted no.

-Can foreign players play for England? Possibly...but in most cases they either can't, or wouldn't want to.

-Can English players? Yes.

-Does giving English players an opportunity help the national team? Yes.

-Does this mean that foreign players are not given an opportunity to work? Not really....you don't apply to be a player at a club (usually, anyway). The club finds it's own players that it wants. No football player can say "I should be allowed to play for Man Utd...if the manager won't buy me then it's racism". . Football doesn't work like that, and that has nothing to do with racism. Even if managers would prefer to sign English players that doesn't mean that foreign players won't be wanted and signed. If there was actually a lack of opportunity for these foreign players I'd be more sympathetic of your argument...but there really isn't. We have a very low level of English players and managers in top level English football.

-So ultimately....this is the same "positive" discrimination that is actively and publicly praised on a regular and high scale basis for every other nationality/race other than white British. So....a bit of a double standard to say the least....to unjustifiably give foreign people or minorities an upper hand (or even more in most cases i.e. absolutely NO opportunity for anyone except the specific nationality/minority).....but not do the same for English players, even when it has nothing to do with race, even when there is a justifiable and reasonable explanation i.e. to improve the national team?....even when other nationalities and races are still given an opportunity?

But no.....of course not. I'm Mr BNP

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
It seems denying racism exists is the new racism.

-So ultimately....this is the same "positive" discrimination that is actively and publicly praised on a regular and high scale basis for every other nationality/race other than white British. So....a bit of a double standard to say the least....to unjustifiably give foreign people or minorities an upper hand (or even more in most cases i.e. absolutely NO opportunity for anyone except the specific nationality/minority).....but not do the same for English players, even when it has nothing to do with race, even when there is a justifiable and reasonable explanation i.e. to improve the national team?....even when other nationalities and races are still given an opportunity?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Also, we have a very very high level of English players and managers in the Premier League. Virtually every side has an English player as a member of their first team, and more 10% of managers are English, to my knowledge the only nation which has more is Scotland.

Lux wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
It seems denying racism exists is the new racism.

-So ultimately....this is the same "positive" discrimination that is actively and publicly praised on a regular and high scale basis for every other nationality/race other than white British. So....a bit of a double standard to say the least....to unjustifiably give foreign people or minorities an upper hand (or even more in most cases i.e. absolutely NO opportunity for anyone except the specific nationality/minority).....but not do the same for English players, even when it has nothing to do with race, even when there is a justifiable and reasonable explanation i.e. to improve the national team?....even when other nationalities and races are still given an opportunity?

I know right...but hey, at least you've owned up to your denial.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Also, we have a very very high level of English players and managers in the Premier League. Virtually every side has an English player as a member of their first team, and more 10% of managers are English, to my knowledge the only nation which has more is Scotland.

The Bat-Man wrote:

Jord wrote:That's not the point though is it? Knew as soon as I saw your name that your post would be something like this. Also pathetic.

Friend, Liverpool are actually a good example of it because they spent the same amount that Barca spent on Villa and Fabregas but they got Carroll, Downing and Henderson. How what justified their price tags?

In the case of Villa and Cesc, their world class talent.

Answer me this Jord, Carroll, Henderson and Downing, are they world class talent?

Dan wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Friend, Liverpool are actually a good example of it because they spent the same amount that Barca spent on Villa and Fabregas but they got Carroll, Downing and Henderson. How what justified their price tags?

In the case of Villa and Cesc, their world class talent.

Answer me this Jord, Carroll, Henderson and Downing, are they world class talent?

Must be trolling?

GeorgeMiles6 wrote:Racist abuse has just recently forced Micah Richards to quit Twitter.

Grenade wrote:RR would you consider what Bilbao are doing with their transfer/player policy to be racist ?