Mr John Terry

Alan wrote:District Judge Howard Riddle ordered that he should stand trial in the week beginning July 9 after hearing that a number of other Chelsea players would not be able to appear as witnesses until the end of the football season.


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That was what the director of chealsea asked her to take into consideration. The actual reason did not just relate to Chelsea players.

Laurencio wrote:

Alan wrote:District Judge Howard Riddle ordered that he should stand trial in the week beginning July 9 after hearing that a number of other Chelsea players would not be able to appear as witnesses until the end of the football season. And Queens.Park.Rangers players.


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That was what the director of chealsea asked her to take into consideration. The actual reason did not just relate to Chelsea players.

I know

Alan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

That was what the director of chealsea asked her to take into consideration. The actual reason did not just relate to Chelsea players.

I know

Indeed you do. Just pointing it out as I have nothing better to do with myself at the moment.

Laurencio wrote:

Alan wrote:I know

Indeed you do. Just pointing it out as I have nothing better to do with myself at the moment.

No problem at all I should have also added something else to say that this included Q.P.R players aswell. I was not just having a go cause it was John Terry and Chelsea.

It's pretty absurd that you can be charged with a crime for something like that. Maybe it warrants a civil claim by the victim but a criminal charge is ridiculous.

menalawyerguy wrote:It's pretty absurd that you can be charged with a crime for something like that. Maybe it warrants a civil claim by the victim but a criminal charge is ridiculous.

You have a freedom of speech, we don't

menalawyerguy wrote:It's pretty absurd that you can be charged with a crime for something like that. Maybe it warrants a civil claim by the victim but a criminal charge is ridiculous.

Totally agree. You think that is bad, someone was arrested for posting a racist joke about ameobi last night on facebook.... I mean ffs, he didn't even say it to his face.

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:It's pretty absurd that you can be charged with a crime for something like that. Maybe it warrants a civil claim by the victim but a criminal charge is ridiculous.

Totally agree. You think that is bad, someone was arrested for posting a racist joke about ameobi last night on facebook.... I mean ffs, he didn't even say it to his face.

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England doesn't have freedom of speech?

So what's the difference in arresting me for saying a racist joke or arresting me if I say "I dont like the government in England"?

Slippery slope that, arresting people for facebook comments.

Mustangt125 wrote:England doesn't have freedom of speech?

So what's the difference in arresting me for saying a racist joke or arresting me if I say "I dont like the government in England"?

Slippery slope that, arresting people for facebook comments.

Censorship to the extreme... Irrespective of what people say, its wrong IMO.

Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

Who are you?

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

Who are you?

Someone who isn't trying to use his fame/position to influence the media/general public.

Lux wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Who are you?

Someone who isn't trying to use his fame/position to influence the media/general public.

jason roberts is a grade a cunt and dont listen to RR

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

You do realise that the people calling for Terry to be axed are two or three of the English FA's most influential supporters right?

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

Roberts is black, so he want's to be liked by all black football fans/players for going against Terry and Suarez, he's just a cunt

Laurencio wrote:

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

You do realise that the people calling for Terry to be axed are two or three of the English FA's most influential supporters right?

My post still applies?

Them having more influence doesn't mean they know more.

Terry is innocent until proven guilty. The case was brought back for valid reasons. If anything, it would be disgraceful and unjust to axe Terry.

Benitez wrote:

Lux wrote:Don't get people saying that Terry shouldn't go to the Euro's. Firstly, that's ridiculous. Even if he was found guilty would he still go to the Euro's anyway? Do people expect Suarez to be taken out of his national team? But most importantly...innocent until proven guilty.

Secondly...who are they? Why is Jason Roberts amongst other random people who know nothing about the case or what happened even getting involved? Their opinion is worth nothing.

Roberts is black, so he want's to be liked by all black football fans/players for going against Terry and Suarez, he's just a cunt

Its all tribal... Terry insulted his tribe, he fights back.

I think the real issue here, is the fact that this has been subject to criminal prosecution. Which from a basic understanding of what he is alleged to have said, is pathetic.

Jason Roberts is a black man and the leader of the campaign to kick racism out of football, it is normal that he is against people who probably dished out racist abuse.

Lux wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

You do realise that the people calling for Terry to be axed are two or three of the English FA's most influential supporters right?

My post still applies?

Them having more influence doesn't mean they know more.

Terry is innocent until proven guilty. The case was brought back for valid reasons. If anything, it would be disgraceful and unjust to axe Terry.

I understand your reasons, but politics are not just, and this case is all about politics. The England captaincy is all about politics. It would be bad for the FA to maintain Terry as captain if he is shown to be guilty of racism, that would reflect poorly on them. Bad politics basically.

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:I think the real issue here, is the fact that this has been subject to criminal prosecution. Which from a basic understanding of what he is alleged to have said, is pathetic.

Racism is civil disobedience by the letter of the law. I don't see the problem with it being taken to court.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Jason Roberts is a black man and the leader of the campaign to kick racism out of football, it is normal that he is against people who probably dished out racist abuse.

Kick racism out of football is supposed to be about being against racism, not assuming people are racist and backing up minorities because they are minorities.

I'm not even siding with Terry, from what I've seen (which on behalf of everyone in the general public is not really enough to say either way for sure) he probably is guilty...but that's beside the point.

Lux wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Jason Roberts is a black man and the leader of the campaign to kick racism out of football, it is normal that he is against people who probably dished out racist abuse.

Kick racism out of football is supposed to be about being against racism, not assuming people are racist and backing up minorities because they are minorities.

I'm not even siding with Terry, from what I've seen (which on behalf of everyone in the general public is not really enough to say either way for sure) he probably is guilty...but that's beside the point.

Specifically it's against racist behaviour, which is what Suarez has been found guilty of and what Terry is facing a criminal prosecution over. It's not beside the point whether he did it or not, not at all.

Kick racism out of football is a hypocritical and flawed organisation. Preaching a rhetoric of education and rational morales, whilst imploring criminal sanctions....

Laurencio wrote:
Racism is civil disobedience by the letter of the law. I don't see the problem with it being taken to court.

Im saying it shouldn't be against the law... Not that it actually isnt.

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:

Laurencio wrote:
Racism is civil disobedience by the letter of the law. I don't see the problem with it being taken to court.

Im saying it shouldn't be against the law... Not that it actually isnt.

I would agree with that, still want it banned on the pitch though.

Racism shouldn't be against the law?

Laurencio wrote:

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:
Im saying it shouldn't be against the law... Not that it actually isnt.

I would agree with that, still want it banned on the pitch though.

Then you set a precedent... And Craig Bellamy is effectively banned from playing football.

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:Kick racism out of football is a hypocritical and flawed organisation. Preaching a rhetoric of education and rational morales, whilst imploring criminal sanctions....

Really? REALLY? how do you know this?

Gegilworld93 wrote:Racism shouldn't be against the law?

Superficial off the cuff lines of abuse? Wrong? yes. Illegal? No.