You're a 23 year old English striker playing for Celtic...

James wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

Yes. Players like Nakamura and McGeady have gone on to play for very respectable European sides. That might be in the past, but at least it happened at some point, whereas I can't remember the last time a Championship player (excluding exceptional youngsters who were obviously destined for bigger things) was wanted by a respectable European side.

Charlie Adam > Liverpool.

After making his name in the Premier League...

Charlie Adam was at a Championship club when he moved to Liverpool.

And how can you say you're not biased. Look at your opening post, you choose to mention what Rangers fans done to our manager rather than how we're regarded as the best fans in Britain, best atmosphere, playing in Europe and chance to play in the Champions League this season.

The difference in football is NOT as big as you're making out to be.

With that said, I would rather play for one of the most supported clubs in the world, a well known club in Europe, than a Championship side, simply because they play in England and the Premiership fans arrogance is obviously spreading to the championship

If someone said "Premier League or SPL" what do you think they'll say?

James wrote:Charlie Adam was at a Championship club when he moved to Liverpool.

Don't be a smartass. And Sigurdsson was 21 when he went to Hoffenheim, I believe. What was it that I said about young players being the exception?

Charlie Adam left Rangers for being surplus to requirements, but yet again, was made to look like a superstar in the Championship, has been shown up at Liverpool.

BladeGunner wrote:

James wrote:Charlie Adam was at a Championship club when he moved to Liverpool.

Don't be a smartass. And Sigurdsson was 21 when he went to Hoffenheim, I believe. What was it that I said about young players being the exception?

21 is not a young player nowadays.

BladeGunner wrote:

James wrote:

Is this true though? You don't get noticed for a good reason if you're constantly losing to teams like Sion in the Europa League.

Yes. Players like Nakamura and McGeady have gone on to play for very respectable European sides. That might be in the past, but at least it happened at some point, whereas I can't remember the last time a Championship player (excluding exceptional youngsters who were obviously destined for bigger things) was wanted by a respectable European side.

Theo Walcott and Alex Chamberlain.

The Maestro wrote:Charlie Adam left Rangers for being surplus to requirements, but yet again, was made to look like a superstar in the Championship, has been shown up at Liverpool.

A lot of Rangers first team players would be good/average in the Championship at best.

Quite a lot were.....but they weren't good enough to move up a level so just thought that they'd settle for a poor league and Europe.

The Maestro wrote:And how can you say you're not biased. Look at your opening post, you choose to mention what Rangers fans done to our manager rather than how we're regarded as the best fans in Britain, best atmosphere, playing in Europe and chance to play in the Champions League this season.

The difference in football is NOT as big as you're making out to be.

With that said, I would rather play for one of the most supported clubs in the world, a well known club in Europe, than a Championship side, simply because they play in England and the Premiership fans arrogance is obviously spreading to the championship

Only becuase Southampton have a real chance of playing in the premiership really.

Also, does it not say something about the quality of Championship clubs when PL teams are poaching Championship players before they are in the middle of their career?

Jordi wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

Yes. Players like Nakamura and McGeady have gone on to play for very respectable European sides. That might be in the past, but at least it happened at some point, whereas I can't remember the last time a Championship player (excluding exceptional youngsters who were obviously destined for bigger things) was wanted by a respectable European side.

Theo Walcott and Alex Chamberlain.

BladeGunner wrote:

Jordi wrote:Theo Walcott and Alex Chamberlain.

Point still stands.

I don't see how you can rule out youngsters, as they're still playing in the championship.

Oh, and Dale Jennings is another one.

I don't think there's a big difference, but I think I'd go for Southampton.

BladeGunner wrote:

Jordi wrote:Theo Walcott and Alex Chamberlain.

Espanyol are a respectable European club?

Always said to my mates at home I would love to see Hooper for a Championship side, or even a Prem side like QPR/Wigan.

Harrold wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

Espanyol are a respectable European club?

I believe reaching a UEFA Cup final makes you somewhat respectable, yes.

LOL. If I realised Espanyol was one of the respectable European clubs i'd be able to write a big list of players who've moved to PL clubs the same size or who've played in PL with clubs promoted from the Championship.

James wrote:LOL. If I realised Espanyol was one of the respectable European clubs i'd be able to write a big list of players who've moved to PL clubs the same size or who've played in PL with clubs promoted from the Championship.

You'd be wrong though.

If it was me, it would have to be Southampton. The chance to play in the EPL is enough of an incentive without even considering everything else. Not to mention there's more of a chance of being picked for the national team.

BladeGunner wrote:

Harrold wrote:

Espanyol are a respectable European club?

I believe reaching a UEFA Cup final makes you somewhat respectable, yes.

When was this?

Anway Jermaine Beckford to Everton from Leeds.

The Maestro wrote:Charlie Adam left Rangers for being surplus to requirements, but yet again, was made to look like a superstar in the Championship, has been shown up at Liverpool.

He's actually played pretty well.

Jermaine Beckford did okay at Everton, he signed from League 1 Leeds. Only really left because Everton needed money, and Leicester probably give him a massive wage packet.

EDIT: Beaten by Harrold.

Cadbury wrote:

The Maestro wrote:Charlie Adam left Rangers for being surplus to requirements, but yet again, was made to look like a superstar in the Championship, has been shown up at Liverpool.

He's actually played pretty well.

For every good game, two bad games.

Harrold wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

I believe reaching a UEFA Cup final makes you somewhat respectable, yes.

When was this?

Anway Jermaine Beckford to Everton from Leeds.

2007

Fair enough, even though he didn't really do that well at Everton. It obviously happens, but I just think that one would have a better chance of getting noticed on a continental level if he was playing for a Europa League/Champions League side.

James the way you structure the opening post leaves out all the good things about playing for Celtic and highlights every single positive you could think of for playing in the Championship. And you claimed you weren't being biased.

Winners medals , titles, European football and playing in front of 60k of the best fans in Britain for me please.

Jordo wrote:

Cadbury wrote:

He's actually played pretty well.

For every good game, two bad games.

Shame his set-peices have turned shit.

Lux wrote:

The Maestro wrote:Charlie Adam left Rangers for being surplus to requirements, but yet again, was made to look like a superstar in the Championship, has been shown up at Liverpool.

A lot of Rangers first team players would be good/average in the Championship at best.

Quite a lot were.....but they weren't good enough to move up a level so just thought that they'd settle for a poor league and Europe.

Jelavic
McGregor
Naismith
Davis
Wallace
Papac
Bocanegra
Goian
Edu
Alexander
McCulloch (Possibly)

Could all play in the Premier League.

BladeGunner wrote:

Harrold wrote:

When was this?

Anway Jermaine Beckford to Everton from Leeds.

2007

Fair enough, even though he didn't really do that well at Everton. It obviously happens, but I just think that one would have a better chance of getting noticed on a continental level if he was playing for a Europa League/Champions League side.

Oh, don't remember that.

You cannot count Beckford, he was a league one player then.

Southampton. Looking like he could get a crack in the premier league.