Does Evra deserve abuse & vilification regarding Suarez?

Alan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Alan you know perfectly well that unacceptable behaviour is unacceptable regardless of who does what when. Excusing fans giving violent abuse because "well they will be doing the same" is retarded, and you know it.

Fuck off im sick of listening to all the do gooders and why anything racial is not allowed, yet even your own fan sign song's every week with lyrics of "We will kill any bastard that gets in our way" And loads of other fans are allowed to sign songs even Liverpool fans that not a person say's a word about, and ive never once said Evra deserves anything chanted or said about him and if i thought Suarez was being totally racist i would want him kicked out of Anfield.

Laurencio wrote:

Alan wrote:

Fuck off im sick of listening to all the do gooders and why anything racial is not allowed, yet even your own fan sign song's every week with lyrics of "We will kill any bastard that gets in our way" And loads of other fans are allowed to sign songs even Liverpool fans that not a person say's a word about, and ive never once said Evra deserves anything chanted or said about him and if i thought Suarez was being totally racist i would want him kicked out of Anfield.

Violent chants are inexcusable regardless of who chants it. ManUtd fans are wrong to be chanting violent abuse to Suarez and other players and I fully admit that. I don't care what club people support, violent abusive chants are inexcusable every time and should never be defended.

"Does Evra deserve to recieve abusive chants?" is the quesiton, added to a touch of RR's usual provocative comments that are as easy to ignore as Liam's Berbatov worship. The question is still sound enough. To this you respond that "ManUtd fans sing violent chants and Fergie once signed someone who did a nazi sign to spurs (no idea who this is)". With that you're just excusing one fan base inexcusable behaviour by mentioning another ones.

Alan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
That was a mistranslation from French. And what's wrong with kissing the badge? Plenty of players do it.

Liverpool fans don't accept that though, it's not fair for Suarez to be found guilty of racial abuse without compelling proof. I argue that by the same logic, they should not abuse Evra as a liar and deceiver.

Yes, because he used racial abuse, as proven by the FA Commission. Because he thought he was a good player, I imagine.

But how dare he buy a player who gives out Nazi salutes, and last year Manchester United had people removed from Old Trafford for racial abuse and i did not hear you make a song and dance about that.

So Fergie says he hates the germans, yet signs a keeper who gives out Nazi salutes. Is Fergie trying to hide something. And i thought it was probable and that Suarez made a mistake in what he said. And do you ever bitch about all the chants even your fans come out with everyweek, Is it ok to sing about killing people, but when its racial its a different story.

Alan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

[/b]Violent chants are inexcusable regardless of who chants it. ManUtd fans are wrong to be chanting violent abuse to Suarez and other players and I fully admit that. I don't care what club people support, violent abusive chants are inexcusable every time and should never be defended.

"Does Evra deserve to recieve abusive chants?" is the quesiton, added to a touch of RR's usual provocative comments that are as easy to ignore as Liam's Berbatov worship. The question is still sound enough. To this you respond that "ManUtd fans sing violent chants and Fergie once signed someone who did a nazi sign to spurs (no idea who this is)". With that you're just excusing one fan base inexcusable behaviour by mentioning another ones.

Ive never excused any fan and ive never said Evra deserves abuse, Im wanting to know why RR keeps going on about whats happening at Liverpool yet and makes it out that Manchester United have never did anything wrong. And Mark Bosnich made a Nazi saulte to Tottenham fans but Ferguson later signed him so i just wanted to know what RR thought about this and why he has not called Ferguson or Manchester United out for doing this. But if it had been Liverpool he would keep bringing it up and keep bitching about it.

Alan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

[/b]Violent chants are inexcusable regardless of who chants it. ManUtd fans are wrong to be chanting violent abuse to Suarez and other players and I fully admit that. I don't care what club people support, violent abusive chants are inexcusable every time and should never be defended.

"Does Evra deserve to recieve abusive chants?" is the quesiton, added to a touch of RR's usual provocative comments that are as easy to ignore as Liam's Berbatov worship. The question is still sound enough. To this you respond that "ManUtd fans sing violent chants and Fergie once signed someone who did a nazi sign to spurs (no idea who this is)". With that you're just excusing one fan base inexcusable behaviour by mentioning another ones.

Ive never excused any fan and ive never said Evra deserves abuse, Im wanting to know why RR keeps going on about whats happening at Liverpool yet and makes it out that Manchester United have never did anything wrong. And Mark Bosnich made a Nazi saulte to Tottenham fans but Ferguson later signed him so i just wanted to know what RR thought about this and why he has not called Ferguson or Manchester United out for doing this. But if it had been Liverpool he would keep bringing it up and keep bitching about it.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Alan wrote:But how dare he buy a player who gives out Nazi salutes, and last year Manchester United had people removed from Old Trafford for racial abuse and i did not hear you make a song and dance about that.

So Fergie says he hates the germans, yet signs a keeper who gives out Nazi salutes. Is Fergie trying to hide something. And i thought it was probable and that Suarez made a mistake in what he said. And do you ever bitch about all the chants even your fans come out with everyweek, Is it ok to sing about killing people, but when its racial its a different story.

As Laurencio points out, Ferguson signing a Nazi, hating Germans, and Manchester United fans allegedly being racist or making violent chants have nothing to do with all this. If you want to discuss these issues perhaps starting a new thread would be better.

This thread is about the potential for Liverpool FC's fans to abuse a man for standing up and speaking out against racism, even though his allegations have been independently found to be perfectly credible. My question is - is it justified to boo him for making these accusations, and is it fair to call him a liar when it hasn't been proven that he is a liar.

Laurencio wrote:

Alan wrote:

Ive never excused any fan and ive never said Evra deserves abuse, Im wanting to know why RR keeps going on about whats happening at Liverpool yet and makes it out that Manchester United have never did anything wrong. And Mark Bosnich made a Nazi saulte to Tottenham fans but Ferguson later signed him so i just wanted to know what RR thought about this and why he has not called Ferguson or Manchester United out for doing this. But if it had been Liverpool he would keep bringing it up and keep bitching about it.

Just ignore the provocation. He only does that because it's far too easy to provoke Liverpool supporters.

Alan wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Just ignore the provocation. He only does that because it's far too easy to provoke Liverpool supporters.

Provoking Liverpool is probably easy and most things dont bother me, but when he has made posts about Hillsborough thats when i changed my mind about RR. And i will say it again Evra does not deserve to get abuse from Liverpool fans and if Luis Suarez had been proved to have been totally racist or they could actually prove he meant to wind Evra up i would want him kicked out of Anfield or i would want him to sort himself out and the ban should have been more.

Laurencio wrote:

Alan wrote: Provoking Liverpool is probably easy and most things dont bother me, but when he has made posts about Hillsborough thats when i changed my mind about RR. And i will say it again Evra does not deserve to get abuse from Liverpool fans and if Luis Suarez had been proved to have been totally racist or they could actually prove he meant to wind Evra up i would want him kicked out of Anfield or i would want him to sort himself out and the ban should have been more.

Fair enough. It just came across like you were responding to the question "Does he deserve abusive chanting?" with "Well they do it, so why can't we?". If I missunderstood then I'm sorry.

Jord wrote:

Scott MacDougall wrote:



I wonder if RR is black.

Hopefully. I'd hate him even more.

James wrote:Alan looks gormless, acts like a spastic and takes the bait all of the time.

All he needs is lips like mine and he would 100% be a fish.

Jord wrote:

James wrote:Alan looks gormless, acts like a spastic and takes the bait all of the time.

All he needs is lips like mine and he would 100% be a fish.

Are you saying you're a woman, James?

James wrote:Alan looks gormless, acts like a spastic and takes the bait all of the time.

All he needs is lips like mine and he would 100% be a fish.

ahlycotc wrote:RR at it again. This could have been a legitimate discussion, but he had to coat it with troll phrases as usual.

ahlycotc wrote:"Yes, because he is black"

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:"Yes, because he is black"

I put that there because I thought a lot of people would hold that viewpoint. I was proven correct.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:"Yes, because he is black"

I put that there because I thought a lot of people would hold that viewpoint. I was proven correct.

Alan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:I put that there because I thought a lot of people would hold that viewpoint. I was proven correct.

Yes and as if you believe that the poll is for real, take it to the FA if you want.

ahlycotc wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:I put that there because I thought a lot of people would hold that viewpoint. I was proven correct.

You have potential to be a respected member on this forum, but you aren't going to achieve it with this act you put on every time. It's an obvious joke selection and that's why you put it there. Act your age.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Alan wrote:Yes and as if you believe that the poll is for real, take it to the FA if you want.

Unfortunately the sample size is too small and there are simple mongoloids on here who would intentionally corrupt the poll. Liverpool FC and Dalglish will get what's coming to them though, they can't carry on in this way and get away with it.

ahlycotc wrote:

You have potential to be a respected member on this forum, but you aren't going to achieve it with this act you put on every time. It's an obvious joke selection and that's why you put it there. Act your age.

Are you assuming I see that as an achievement?

ahlycotc wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Unfortunately the sample size is too small and there are simple mongoloids on here who would intentionally corrupt the poll. Liverpool FC and Dalglish will get what's coming to them though, they can't carry on in this way and get away with it.

Are you assuming I see that as an achievement?

Acting your age?

Alan wrote:Just like Fergie who signs the likes of Cantona and Bosnich who likes a Nazi saulte. And why not have polls and debates about what is sung at United games every week racial abuse not allowed yet we can sign about " WE WILL KILL ANY BASTARD THAT GETS IN OUR WAY" and give players death threats but does RR mention these things of course not that does not involve Liverpool football club.

Hail Fergie and Manchester United.

KING KENNETH MATHIESON DALGLISH

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Acting your age?

Being a respected member on this forum by a removal of all jokes and humour.