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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:14 am

    We should really get this thread back to some former glory, pity about the attention seekers.

    Milos Krasic is in search of a new club because Juventus coach Antonio Conte "doesn't want him anymore", according to the Serbia winger's agent.

    Krasic, 27, has been out of favour under Conte this season and is no longer a first-team regular in Turin, with Pepe and Mirko Vucinic preferred on the flanks.

    With the former CSKA Moscow midfielder unhappy about regularly being a substitute, agent Dejan Joksimovic feels it will be time for his client to move on in January.

    "Conte doesn't want him anymore," Joksimovic was quoted as saying in the Serbian media. "Milos has to play so the best thing we can do for him now is to find a new club.

    "Chelsea and Manchester City made bids for him in the summer, but Juve turned them down. You never know what will happen, but both of those clubs have yet to adequately fill the position of right winger in their starting line-ups.

    "Juventus must act quickly because while he is not playing, Krasic's price in the market is dropping day after day. Krasic must play and in one month's time we should have a clearer picture. We will see how the story develops from now until Christmas."

    Krasic has also been linked with Borussia Dortmund, but Jokismovic insisted the winger "is bigger" than the reigning German champions.

    "I think Krasic is a bit bigger than Borussia at the moment," he said. "These are stories without any substance."

    Krasic joined the Bianconeri for €15.5 million in 2010, scoring six goals in 33 games in his debut cam

    Not linked or anything, but that would be a cracking signing, we need a right winger.
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:24 am

    A right winger would be ideal but i can't see us signing anyone except a striker.


    Anyone heard the villa rumors? Laughing
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:26 am

    Defo an option. We need a right winger although I think Krasic is slightly overrated from what ive seen.
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    Post by The Zlatan Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:27 am

    I don't think Krasic is a realistic target for Liverpool at the moment.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:27 am

    Well when you consider the last Serbian we signed.. shifty
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:29 am

    SpiritOfShankly wrote:Defo an option. We need a right winger although I think Krasic is slightly overrated from what ive seen.

    wait krasic an option or villa?


    both of them far from our grasp
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    Post by El Jefe Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:30 am

    Ryan Babel
    Valencia wins 7-0 !!! Liverpool still in the books with the 8-0 score against Besiktas ( 2 goals of myself lol )

    Laughing not worthy
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:31 am

    Zlatan wrote:I don't think Krasic is a realistic target for Liverpool at the moment.

    He's hardly out of reach.
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:32 am

    [quote="NZG"]
    SpiritOfShankly wrote:Defo an option. We need a right winger although I think Krasic is slightly overrated from what ive seen.

    wait krasic an option or villa?


    both of them far from our grasp[/quote

    Ha not Villa, Krasic isn't far from our grasp at all.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:33 am

    Jay wrote:Ryan Babel
    Valencia wins 7-0 !!! Liverpool still in the books with the 8-0 score against Besiktas ( 2 goals of myself lol )

    Laughing not worthy

    His backheel. not worthy
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:34 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Jay wrote:Ryan Babel
    Valencia wins 7-0 !!! Liverpool still in the books with the 8-0 score against Besiktas ( 2 goals of myself lol )

    Laughing not worthy

    His backheel. not worthy

    He fucked my bet up in that game, i put a £1 bet on us winning 6-0 then he goes and scores with his arse then crouch scores late header.
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    Post by The Zlatan Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:37 am

    SpiritOfShankly wrote:
    Zlatan wrote:I don't think Krasic is a realistic target for Liverpool at the moment.

    He's hardly out of reach.

    He's quite a fair distance away, especially with teams like Man City and Chelsea reportedly interested.
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:39 am

    Zlatan wrote:
    SpiritOfShankly wrote:

    He's hardly out of reach.

    He's quite a fair distance away, especially with teams like Man City and Chelsea reportedly interested.

    Oh yes if they went in for him fair enough but that's speculation.
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    Post by The Zlatan Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:40 am

    SpiritOfShankly wrote:
    Zlatan wrote:

    He's quite a fair distance away, especially with teams like Man City and Chelsea reportedly interested.

    Oh yes if they went in for him fair enough but that's speculation.

    There's isn't any speculation of Liverpool interest either though.
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:42 am

    Zlatan wrote:
    SpiritOfShankly wrote:

    Oh yes if they went in for him fair enough but that's speculation.

    There's isn't any speculation of Liverpool interest either though.


    No never suggested that just talking about him.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:09 am

    Liverpool's U16's beat Man City 6-3 tonight.

    And the other week LFC Under 18's beat City under 18's 3-1.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:12 am

    The way people assume City go for everyone available. Dry Smile
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:52 am

    City's moto Can't beat them, buy them.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:57 am

    Actually, I think its superbia in proelia
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:11 am

    Bogdan wrote:Actually, I think its superbia in proelia


    Fake motto. That is the real one.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:30 am

    NZG wrote:City's moto Can't beat them, buy them.

    Chelsea's you mean. Which is why Johnson and Maxi will be sold down to London.
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    Post by Childish Logic Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:54 am

    Not johnson Sad
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:58 am

    Torres scores against them, gone. Meireles scores against them, gone. The writing's on the wall.
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:59 am

    shame they didn't take Bruno Cheyrou.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:45 pm

    Just came across this whilst on the click Liverpool website.



    Fernando Torres has forgotten 'true story' of his Liverpool FC exit

    by Richard Buxton. Published Fri 18 Nov 2011 21:06, Last updated: 2011-11-19

    Fernando Torres claims Liverpool fans "don't know the true story" about his Chelsea switch.

    Invariably it is a hollow threat from the one-time Kop sweetheart, no doubt in a bid to gain the psychological edge ahead of Sunday's meeting between the sides at Stamford Bridge.

    But if Torres does intend to reveal that 'true story', he may wish to retrace his steps for the purposes of accuracy - because he will emerge from the debacle with little to no credit.

    His defection to West London flew in the face of several years' gushing PR about how he would never play for another English club, such was his supposed affinity with Merseyside.

    Fast approaching 27, it was unlikely that a player of Torres' proven calibre would languish at a club which had been seemingly going nowhere since his arrival almost four years earlier.

    Yet the behaviour of the collective known as 'Brand Torres' during those final 12 months does not vindicate nor exonerate his decision to leave Anfield, nor the manner in which it transpired.

    It was well known, behind the scenes, that Torres had been threatening to leave Liverpool as early as late 2009 when it was clear that Champions League qualification appeared unlikely.

    His management company - Bahia Internacional - were all too aware of their prize asset's diminishing marketing potential in remaining aboard the club's erstwhile sinking ship.

    An injury sustained during a Europa League tie with Benfica in April 2010 could not have been more ill-timed, with the start of the World Cup finals just two months around the corner.

    With the World Cup fast approaching, Torres' outstanding commercial deals with the likes of Nike, Pepsi and El Corte Ingles, Spain's leading department store, were all up for renewal.

    Such was the pressure on Bahia from those sponsors that both they and Torres were so intent on catapulting him back into the spotlight in South Africa that he chose to go under the knife for a second time in four months to fix a knee problem - foresaking Liverpool's season.

    The player himself admitted he willingly suppressed that same knee problem for 85 minutes of the Benfica game, having sustained the injury in the second minute of the quarter final clash.

    It was not the first time he had played through the pain barrier against Manchester United just six months prior after damaging an adductor muscle while on international duty with Spain.

    But the days of placing club before country had long been vanquished as the actions of Liverpool's top scorer saw them fall even further behind in the race for a top four finish.

    Rafael Benitez's withdrawal of his star striker during a 1-1 draw with Birmingham, much to Steven Gerrard's perplexion, was designed to prevent this procedure.

    The former Kop boss is alleged to have promised his fellow Spaniard that he would withdraw him after two-thirds of each game until the end of the season in a bid to preseve his fitness.

    Benitez is also said to have suggested Torres would benefit from his first summer off in three years by missing the World Cup thus allowing him to prolong his career at the highest level.

    This suggestion was allegedly refuted and, contrary to reports at the time, Antonio Sanz - Torres' agent at Bahia - is claimed to have defied the volcanic cloud hanging over Europe by accompanying his client to Barcelona to be treated by his trusted surgeon, Dr Ramon Cugat.

    Ultimately, the loss of Torres' fire power cost Benitez his job after years of dodging and delaying the inevitable under Tom Hicks and George Gillett's parsimonious regime.

    Rather than reaffirm his commitment to the club following his compatriot's departure, as Pepe Reina did within hours of the announcement, 'El Nino' chose to step up plans for his own exit.

    Roman Abramovich's appearance at Spain's World Cup semi-final win over Germany in Durban was not the smoking gun which many Liverpool supporters perceived.

    La Furia Roja may have triumphed but Torres was their greatest passenger; resorting to uncharacteristic diving which resulted in the unfair dismissal of Chile's Marco Estrada.

    With Chelsea's interest virtually diminished, he attempted to atone for his summer-long silence by posing with a Liverpool scarf in Spain's victorious Soccer City dressing room.

    Christian Purslow, Liverpool's former managing director, safeguarded Anfield's key asset until the club was sold by brokering a deal with Torres during crisis talks in Ibiza to stay put.

    It was a deal for which the often maligned Anfield chief has earned little credit but with Javier Mascherano already Barcelona-bound, it was a pivotal decision made on his part.

    He returned to Melwood, the club's training ground, sporting a toothy grin to deliver the penultimate deception to Reds fans as he continued to plot his over-running escape.

    A half-season under Roy Hodgson's disastrous and short-lived tenure offered almost justification for Torres to traipse around the nation's pitches looking largely disinterested.

    Goals still trickled but he was still able to turn on the style when it suited as proven by a 10-minute spell against Manchester United and, coincidentally, 87 minutes against Chelsea.

    At times during those final five months as a Liverpool player, Torres' ongoing and overt desire to leave the club saw him alienate himself further from some of his team mates.

    And even with Liverpool in the hands of capable owners and a manager in Kenny Dalglish - a man with whom he once had a strong level of mutual respect - Torres remained unswayed.

    His timing in handing in an initially unsuccessful transfer request was designed to avenge the broken promises and general malaise suffered at the hands of Hicks and Gillett.

    It underlined how far the player who breezed through Anfield's corridors in summer 2007 had fallen and was, at the cost of his morals, desperate to revive his ailing commercial image.

    Liverpool may lack his fire power but their loss - and Andy Carroll's inability to live up to his £35million billing - has not been Chelsea's gain as Torres' form has been incredibly sporadic.

    They have made peace with his ill-conceived decisions while under their jurisdiction, with Dalglish repeatedly dismissing the importance of any individual player to the club.

    Torres, however, remains regretful at reneging on previous pledges that Liverpool would remain his English club and continues to convince himself that he was blameless.

    In time he may return to his free-scoring ways, lift the silverware which eluded him at Anfield and possibly retain his starring role in Spain's front line to expunge all doubts over his move.

    A goal against Liverpool on Sunday would go some way to helping achieve this but while he remains engrossed on rewriting history, he is in danger of remaining English football's punch line.

    http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1214788-fernando-torres-has-forgotten-true-story-of-his-liverpool-fc-exit.html

    Don't know how much truth is in that but it would explain alot of things.
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    Post by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:01 pm

    If we sold Glen I would quit being a Liverpool fan and just follow him.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:13 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:Just came across this whilst on the click Liverpool website.



    Fernando Torres has forgotten 'true story' of his Liverpool FC exit

    by Richard Buxton. Published Fri 18 Nov 2011 21:06, Last updated: 2011-11-19

    Fernando Torres claims Liverpool fans "don't know the true story" about his Chelsea switch.

    Invariably it is a hollow threat from the one-time Kop sweetheart, no doubt in a bid to gain the psychological edge ahead of Sunday's meeting between the sides at Stamford Bridge.

    But if Torres does intend to reveal that 'true story', he may wish to retrace his steps for the purposes of accuracy - because he will emerge from the debacle with little to no credit.

    His defection to West London flew in the face of several years' gushing PR about how he would never play for another English club, such was his supposed affinity with Merseyside.

    Fast approaching 27, it was unlikely that a player of Torres' proven calibre would languish at a club which had been seemingly going nowhere since his arrival almost four years earlier.

    Yet the behaviour of the collective known as 'Brand Torres' during those final 12 months does not vindicate nor exonerate his decision to leave Anfield, nor the manner in which it transpired.

    It was well known, behind the scenes, that Torres had been threatening to leave Liverpool as early as late 2009 when it was clear that Champions League qualification appeared unlikely.

    His management company - Bahia Internacional - were all too aware of their prize asset's diminishing marketing potential in remaining aboard the club's erstwhile sinking ship.

    An injury sustained during a Europa League tie with Benfica in April 2010 could not have been more ill-timed, with the start of the World Cup finals just two months around the corner.

    With the World Cup fast approaching, Torres' outstanding commercial deals with the likes of Nike, Pepsi and El Corte Ingles, Spain's leading department store, were all up for renewal.

    Such was the pressure on Bahia from those sponsors that both they and Torres were so intent on catapulting him back into the spotlight in South Africa that he chose to go under the knife for a second time in four months to fix a knee problem - foresaking Liverpool's season.

    The player himself admitted he willingly suppressed that same knee problem for 85 minutes of the Benfica game, having sustained the injury in the second minute of the quarter final clash.

    It was not the first time he had played through the pain barrier against Manchester United just six months prior after damaging an adductor muscle while on international duty with Spain.

    But the days of placing club before country had long been vanquished as the actions of Liverpool's top scorer saw them fall even further behind in the race for a top four finish.

    Rafael Benitez's withdrawal of his star striker during a 1-1 draw with Birmingham, much to Steven Gerrard's perplexion, was designed to prevent this procedure.

    The former Kop boss is alleged to have promised his fellow Spaniard that he would withdraw him after two-thirds of each game until the end of the season in a bid to preseve his fitness.

    Benitez is also said to have suggested Torres would benefit from his first summer off in three years by missing the World Cup thus allowing him to prolong his career at the highest level.

    This suggestion was allegedly refuted and, contrary to reports at the time, Antonio Sanz - Torres' agent at Bahia - is claimed to have defied the volcanic cloud hanging over Europe by accompanying his client to Barcelona to be treated by his trusted surgeon, Dr Ramon Cugat.

    Ultimately, the loss of Torres' fire power cost Benitez his job after years of dodging and delaying the inevitable under Tom Hicks and George Gillett's parsimonious regime.

    Rather than reaffirm his commitment to the club following his compatriot's departure, as Pepe Reina did within hours of the announcement, 'El Nino' chose to step up plans for his own exit.

    Roman Abramovich's appearance at Spain's World Cup semi-final win over Germany in Durban was not the smoking gun which many Liverpool supporters perceived.

    La Furia Roja may have triumphed but Torres was their greatest passenger; resorting to uncharacteristic diving which resulted in the unfair dismissal of Chile's Marco Estrada.

    With Chelsea's interest virtually diminished, he attempted to atone for his summer-long silence by posing with a Liverpool scarf in Spain's victorious Soccer City dressing room.

    Christian Purslow, Liverpool's former managing director, safeguarded Anfield's key asset until the club was sold by brokering a deal with Torres during crisis talks in Ibiza to stay put.

    It was a deal for which the often maligned Anfield chief has earned little credit but with Javier Mascherano already Barcelona-bound, it was a pivotal decision made on his part.

    He returned to Melwood, the club's training ground, sporting a toothy grin to deliver the penultimate deception to Reds fans as he continued to plot his over-running escape.

    A half-season under Roy Hodgson's disastrous and short-lived tenure offered almost justification for Torres to traipse around the nation's pitches looking largely disinterested.

    Goals still trickled but he was still able to turn on the style when it suited as proven by a 10-minute spell against Manchester United and, coincidentally, 87 minutes against Chelsea.

    At times during those final five months as a Liverpool player, Torres' ongoing and overt desire to leave the club saw him alienate himself further from some of his team mates.

    And even with Liverpool in the hands of capable owners and a manager in Kenny Dalglish - a man with whom he once had a strong level of mutual respect - Torres remained unswayed.

    His timing in handing in an initially unsuccessful transfer request was designed to avenge the broken promises and general malaise suffered at the hands of Hicks and Gillett.

    It underlined how far the player who breezed through Anfield's corridors in summer 2007 had fallen and was, at the cost of his morals, desperate to revive his ailing commercial image.

    Liverpool may lack his fire power but their loss - and Andy Carroll's inability to live up to his £35million billing - has not been Chelsea's gain as Torres' form has been incredibly sporadic.

    They have made peace with his ill-conceived decisions while under their jurisdiction, with Dalglish repeatedly dismissing the importance of any individual player to the club.

    Torres, however, remains regretful at reneging on previous pledges that Liverpool would remain his English club and continues to convince himself that he was blameless.

    In time he may return to his free-scoring ways, lift the silverware which eluded him at Anfield and possibly retain his starring role in Spain's front line to expunge all doubts over his move.

    A goal against Liverpool on Sunday would go some way to helping achieve this but while he remains engrossed on rewriting history, he is in danger of remaining English football's punch line.

    http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1214788-fernando-torres-has-forgotten-true-story-of-his-liverpool-fc-exit.html

    Don't know how much truth is in that but it would explain alot of things.

    What a load of shit - how can you criticise him for wanting to play in the Champions League? Or having an operation to allow him to play in the World Cup? Would any of you do any differently? Squander around for a foreign team who obviously aren't going to achieve anything significant and miss the World Cup?

    And as for uncharacteristic diving, he didn't dive against Chile, he was clipped. It looked very bad but it's pretty clear he was clipped if you watch it again. Also, the idea that Torres was capable of 'turning it on when it suits' rather than just being fucked by injuries is nonsense, because turning it on all the time would have been the best way to achieve his big move.
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:02 pm

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    Scouser_Dave wrote:Just came across this whilst on the click Liverpool website.



    Don't know how much truth is in that but it would explain alot of things.

    What a load of shit - how can you criticise him for wanting to play in the Champions League? Or having an operation to allow him to play in the World Cup? Would any of you do any differently? Squander around for a foreign team who obviously aren't going to achieve anything significant and miss the World Cup?

    And as for uncharacteristic diving, he didn't dive against Chile, he was clipped. It looked very bad but it's pretty clear he was clipped if you watch it again. Also, the idea that Torres was capable of 'turning it on when it suits' rather than just being fucked by injuries is nonsense, because turning it on all the time would have been the best way to achieve his big move.


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    Post by Guest Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:08 am

    SpiritOfShankly wrote:Defo an option. We need a right winger although I think Krasic is slightly overrated from what ive seen.
    When I watch him play he seems a good player but people have said he's a one trick pony(run, run and run some more) and he's a bit inconsistent.

    I still think he would be good signing for Liverpool.
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    LIVERPOOL could use Lille’s desire to sign Joe Cole on a permanent deal to help smooth a possible move for Eden Hazard.

    Cole has proven a major success for Lille after agreeing a season-long loan switch from Anfield in the summer.

    The midfielder helped the French side to a 2-0 win at CSKA Moscow on Tuesday night that has moved them to within one victory of the Champions League knockout stages.

    After the match, Lille president Michel Seydoux intimated he would pursue Cole on a permanent basis.

    And Liverpool are open to the offer, which may give them some leverage regarding the highly-rated Hazard, of whose situation they have already asked to be kept informed.

    Seydoux admitted this week Lille are not certain of holding on to the Belgian winger, who is being tracked by a clutch of other clubs including Arsenal.

    “If we don’t do well it’s probable that he will leave the club after this season as there’s plenty of interest,” he said.

    “Will 50million euros be enough? Nobody is irreplaceable and there are solutions for that kind of money.”

    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/liverpool-fc/2011/11/24/joe-cole-deal-may-improve-liverpool-fc-s-chances-of-signing-lille-winger-eden-hazard-55578-29831682/


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