Prince William has some influence

sky sports is saying that Prince William has wrote a letter to FIFA about the England team not being allowed to wear Poppy's and Fifa have lifted the ban

Did Sepp Blatter get invited to the royal wedding

We should make Spain wear a poppy as well

LFC_Grunners wrote:We should make Spain wear a poppy as well

No you shouldnt.

Get him to send them a letter saying OP is a phaggot.

I agree with FIFA's original ruling. FIFA isn't being insensitive to the situation by banning it, they are just trying to avoid conflicts. What if say Afghanistan were to wear "RIP Osama Bin Laden" on their jersey?

Bit different don't you think Ally?

James wrote:Bit different don't you think Ally?

It is different, but where do you draw the line?

you draw the line when your remembering a terrorist who took delight in killing innocent people

The poppy ain't a political symbol.

Is it?

Blackpool Rule wrote:you draw the line when your remembering a terrorist who took delight in killing innocent people

How would you word the rule? And who gets to define a terrorist? One person can be a terrorist in one's eye while a hero/martyr in another's.

Honestly I don't get why it is becoming more of a big deal? Clubs only started doing it a few years back. No one cared as much before then if they weren't on their shirts

Also, when England played Brazil, think it was in dubai, 2 years ago, in a friendly they didn't wear them on their shirts then and there wasn't all this fuss about it.

I have nothing against it, before people suggest that, I just think they've made it such a big deal to wear it on a football shirt now.

ahlycotc wrote:

Blackpool Rule wrote:you draw the line when your remembering a terrorist who took delight in killing innocent people

How would you word the rule? And who gets to define a terrorist? One person can be a terrorist in one's eye while a hero/martyr in another's.

maybe in an uncivilized world yeah also we are remembering more than one person

LFC_Grunners wrote:We should make Spain wear a poppy as well

No, England shouldn't be wearing them, never mind Spain wearing them too

We have been working closely with the Royal British Legion who have welcomed our support. We can confirm that:

·The England players will wear black armbands during the Spain game on Saturday
·The FA will place a poppy wreath on the pitch during the national anthems
·There will be a one-minute silence ahead of kick-off
·Players will wear training tops with embroidered poppies on match day
·Players will wear poppy-embossed anthem jackets during the national anthems
·Military representatives will be in the presentation party prior to kick-off
·The FA has donated 500 England v Spain tickets to 'Tickets for Troops', for members of the Armed Forces, and 1,000 tickets for the England v Sweden game on Tuesday (this is standard FA policy for Wembley matches)
·The England senior squad will train at Wembley on Friday ahead of the Spain game.
They will observe the two-minute silence at 11am, all wearing training tops embossed with poppies. This session will be broadcast live
·The training tops embossed with poppies will be passed onto forces' charities post-match as auction items for fund raising
·The poppy will be visible around Wembley on Saturday, on the scoreboards and advertising boards, and poppy sellers will be in the stadium to allow supporters to donate to the poppy fund and show their support
·On Thursday, England Under-21s play Iceland in Colchester and England U19s play Denmark in Brighton. All players and staff will be wearing poppies pre- and post-match
·Both the Under-21s and U19s will observe a one-minute silence, too, at their games - the Under-21s will do so alongside troops from Colchester barracks.

The FA where going to do this if the ban was lifted or not so FIFA might as well let them do it anyway

Aguerotelli wrote:

LFC_Grunners wrote:We should make Spain wear a poppy as well

No, England shouldn't be wearing them, never mind Spain wearing them too

why shouldn't England wear them

Blackpool Rule wrote:

Aguerotelli wrote:

No, England shouldn't be wearing them, never mind Spain wearing them too

why shouldn't England wear them

Its against FIFA rules

It is about remembering those who sacrificed their lives for their country, freedom, w/e.

I don't see how this could offend anyone. Surely the Germans honour those who died for their country too?............. Even if they didn't, they know we do whether it's on a football shirt or not.

Lux wrote:It is about remembering those who sacrificed their lives for their country, freedom, w/e.

I don't see how this could offend anyone. Surely the Germans honour those who died for their country too?............. Even if they didn't, they know we do whether it's on a football shirt or not.

I don't think anyone is offended by England's remembrance, it's just that down the road, someone else can do something similar that would offend someone.

Aguerotelli wrote:

Blackpool Rule wrote:

why shouldn't England wear them

Its against FIFA rules

not really it holds no commercial,political, or religious value. Its the same as wearing Black armbands when someone dies

ahlycotc wrote:I agree with FIFA's original ruling. FIFA isn't being insensitive to the situation by banning it, they are just trying to avoid conflicts. What if say Afghanistan were to wear "RIP Osama Bin Laden" on their jersey?

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

Laurencio wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:I agree with FIFA's original ruling. FIFA isn't being insensitive to the situation by banning it, they are just trying to avoid conflicts. What if say Afghanistan were to wear "RIP Osama Bin Laden" on their jersey?

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

No its for all British soldiers for every war they fought in but yeah your right its one of the most important symbols in Britain

Blackpool Rule wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

No its for all British soldiers for every war they fought in

Oh, here I thought it was WW1, alright, point still stands.

Laurencio wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:I agree with FIFA's original ruling. FIFA isn't being insensitive to the situation by banning it, they are just trying to avoid conflicts. What if say Afghanistan were to wear "RIP Osama Bin Laden" on their jersey?

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

Not in my eyes. To others, Osama could be getting the same commemoration. What's stopping them from commemorating his death?

Laurencio wrote:

Blackpool Rule wrote:

No its for all British soldiers for every war they fought in

Oh, here I thought it was WW1, alright, point still stands.

i edited my post it sounded like i was poking hole in your argument but i agree with you

ahlycotc wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

Not in my eyes. To others, Osama could be getting the same commemoration. What's stopping them from commemorating his death?

the fact that AL Qaeda don't have a football team

ahlycotc wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

So... basically... the poppy to commemorate fallen soldiers of the bloodiest war in Europe is the equivalent to hailing a dead leader of a group convicted and wanted for mass murder in all 4 corners of the world? What next, are you going to compare the way Christian players cross themselves when entering the pitch to a nazi salute?

Not in my eyes. To others, Osama could be getting the same commemoration. What's stopping them from commemorating his death?

What nation will officially remember Bin Ladin's death?

what a ridiculous decision. they have set a dangerous precedent. other countries will view this and say, why cannot we do this. i dare say you will see countries try to do some extremely controversial things that other countries may find offensive

is funny to, and the english media have the nerve to say fifa hates them. if they allow this, this would be even more worse than the world cup decisions

fallen soldiers has no relevancy to international football. you are already allowed to wear it at club in your own country, not to mention fact, isnt the game on saturday and traditionally arent your suppose to wear poppy on sunday? makes no sense. to me it just sounds like a call for attention

Blackpool Rule wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Not in my eyes. To others, Osama could be getting the same commemoration. What's stopping them from commemorating his death?

the fact that AL Qaeda don't have a football team

OK, what if Palestine commemorated a fallen Hammas leader? What if Al Qaeda or the Taliban eventually controlled Afghanistan?