Scott Parker V Lucas Leiva

Parker
Lulz
Lucas
Your opinion is flawed
Parker
You fucking crackhead, that's stupid

Yeah but you said haters, I don't rate Lucas. Does that make me a hater?

Yes

It's obvious some people on here feel there is a vendetta against Liverpool, but believe me when I say I am not a part of it if there is one. I just rate Parker higher than Lucas. That's not to say Lucas is shit by any means, he isn't, just Parker is better for me.

Kuled wrote:Yeah but you said haters, I don't rate Lucas. Does that make me a hater?

Not quite, but people putting ' ' at the very notion, and calling him shit is absurd. It's quite evident that cretins seek to cretify whenever a liverpool related topic is created..generally by another cretin.

75% - Lucas Leiva has the best tackle success rate in the league with 75%, surpassing Alejandro Faurlin (74%) and Scott Parker (68%)

Point wrote:

coolhead33 wrote:Parker is shit.

Clayton pissed all over him earlier this season. How Parker is always getting called up for England I'll never know.

Lucas is being very underrated in here.

Lucas, is better defensively. Parker is better attacking wise.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Kuled wrote:Yeah but you said haters, I don't rate Lucas. Does that make me a hater?

Not quite, but people putting ' ' at the very notion, and calling him shit is absurd. It's quite evident that cretins seek to cretify whenever a liverpool related topic is created..generally by another cretin.

Whilst I do think Parker is better than Lucas at the moment, Lucas has time on his side to improve, whereas Parker is nearing the twilight of his career.

People rate an arguably better player over a liverpool player

The shock

Lucas can do nothing but run around and tackle. He's shit in the air, weak on the ball.

As a player he adds nothing to a midfield when you have the ball. Funnily enough since he's been in Liverpools midfield they have been shit. Not saying its just down to him but he's really not good enough.

Players in that position need to be able to play some good football when you've got the ball if you want to dominate games.

I don't mind if people think Parker is better, it's just the way they laugh at Lucas and call him shit, and at the same time have a go at people for not taking their opinion seriously.

Jay wrote:I don't mind if people think Parker is better, it's just the way they laugh at Lucas and call him shit, and at the same time have a go at people for not taking their opinion seriously.

Off the ball good. On the ball might aswell be down to 10 men.

parker is shit, lucas much better

I would rather have Parker, over Charlie Adam.

Not saying that Lucas is bad.....but Parker is so UNDERRATED.

Some might say "No way, he is overrated"......but for me this has been done to death and now he is being thought of as rubbish.

He's arguably been Spurs best midfielder this season, over the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart.

Parker is talked about throughout the entire 90 minutes every match, quite annoying.

Lux wrote:Not saying that Lucas is bad.....but Parker is so UNDERRATED.

Some might say "No way, he is overrated"......but for me this has been done to death and now he is being thought of as rubbish.

He's arguably been Spurs best midfielder this season, over the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart.

justaddfinesse wrote:Parker is talked about throughout the entire 90 minutes every match, quite annoying.

I hate him because he doesn't give 100% every game like against us and is always talked about. He just strolled about the pitch knowing that he would be back in the Premier League come the end of the month. It's his attitude that makes England so shit. It's like playing vs a country like Switzerland and not putting 100% in which then backfires as we will go on to draw or lose.

Parker wins

Parker usually gives 100% and has done in every Tottenham game he has played in. He allows the others to go and do their attacking things while he covers the in front of the back four.

coolhead33 wrote:

Lux wrote:Not saying that Lucas is bad.....but Parker is so UNDERRATED.

Some might say "No way, he is overrated"......but for me this has been done to death and now he is being thought of as rubbish.

He's arguably been Spurs best midfielder this season, over the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart.

justaddfinesse wrote:Parker is talked about throughout the entire 90 minutes every match, quite annoying.

I hate him because he doesn't give 100% every game like against us and is always talked about. He just strolled about the pitch knowing that he would be back in the Premier League come the end of the month. It's his attitude that makes England so shit. It's like playing vs a country like Switzerland and not putting 100% in which then backfires as we will go on to draw or lose.

I think Parker is one of those players where you can't question his workrate.

coolhead33 wrote:

Lux wrote:Not saying that Lucas is bad.....but Parker is so UNDERRATED.

Some might say "No way, he is overrated"......but for me this has been done to death and now he is being thought of as rubbish.

He's arguably been Spurs best midfielder this season, over the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart.

justaddfinesse wrote:Parker is talked about throughout the entire 90 minutes every match, quite annoying.

I hate him because he doesn't give 100% every game like against us and is always talked about. He just strolled about the pitch knowing that he would be back in the Premier League come the end of the month. It's his attitude that makes England so shit. It's like playing vs a country like Switzerland and not putting 100% in which then backfires as we will go on to draw or lose.

Shaq attack.

Chris wrote:Lucas can do nothing but run around and tackle.

Defensive midfielder shock. He runs around the most, because he has to cover Charlie Adam most of the time, (Which he does to some success). Covers the full backs, when they push up. Whenever there is a lose ball, he is there.

He's shit in the air.

He ain't the world's best, but he has a decent header on him.

weak on the ball

He ain't built like a brickshit house but he doesn't get barged of the ball. He uses his body intelligently. Half of the time, when before he receives the ball he knows where he wants the ball to go.

As a player he adds nothing to a midfield when you have the ball. Funnily enough since he's been in Liverpools midfield they have been shit. Not saying its just down to him but he's really not good enough.

His job is to protect the back four, and pass to players that who are better than him to do the attacking play. To link the defence with attack. He rarely gives the ball away cheaply. People expect him to be Silva/Fabregas/Mascherano in one.

Players in that position need to be able to play some good football when you've got the ball if you want to dominate games.

Ie: Look at what I wrote before.

To play good football, you need to be patience on the ball. Something which he is good at. Don't force play, something which Charlie Adam does frequently and loses the ball, when a simpler ball is on. He is there to keep tick of possession. Like Jamie, uses Busquets as an example. Composed. Only one of the few players, when we have the ball. I know, he won't waste possession. Also he is disciplined, (positional sense).

Many things he can improve on, is like going forward, which Parker is better than him. Shooting ect ... But after all, he is a DM. He also needs to improve defensivly a lot, to be up there with the best DM's in the world.
Shame he has an inferior center mid partner in Adam.

Wish he could get a midfield partner who could really compliment him.

Im not coparing ability wise but parkers little 360 turns and the way he passes it and gets it straight back again, everybody passing to him, reminds me of xavi, hes got uch more to his game than some people give him credit for

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:Im not coparing ability wise but parkers little 360 turns and the way he passes it and gets it straight back again, everybody passing to him, reminds me of xavi, hes got uch more to his game than some people give him credit for

just to mention them in the same sentence is a no-go

Eternal Witcher wrote:Wish he could get a midfield partner who could really compliment him.

Same here.

When Rafa bought him, he was ideal for our formation and style of play.



Lucas and Mascha would cover the attacking players, giving them less defensive responsibility. If I can remember correctly, Lucas played deeper than Mascha. As Mascha broke attacks down, while Lucas would cover him and link defense to attack.

Now we play


Lucas and Adam are a poor partnership. Adam is poor defensively, and not very good at pressing and off the ball. Mascha was fucking brilliant off the ball. And he never ran out of steam, like Adam.

On the ball (Passing, Attacking play), Adam is better than Mascha. Off the ball, Mascha shites on Adam from a great height, and he is better than Lucas as well in that department.

Off the ball, tactical we are very poor. And the players are poor too at it.

This is just a quick brief summary, I hope you get the jist.

Lux wrote:I think Parker is one of those players where you can't question his workrate.

easley91 wrote:Parker usually gives 100% and has done in every Tottenham game he has played in. He allows the others to go and do their attacking things while he covers the in front of the back four.

I haven't seen him play this season apart from West Ham vs Leeds and he didn't look like he tried that game. I do believe that he has gave 100% for West Ham though. He just strikes me as the kind of player who only raises their game when needed which he didn't need to at West Ham as he knew he was already on his way out.

Im sure if Lucas wasn't at Liverpool he would get a hell of a lot more praise