Suarez's goal was magic last night. I'm starting to really worry about us not taking our chances..last night we should of won by a fair few, we should also have beaten Norwich aswell. What we need is a proven goalscorer (someone who can come of the bench when we're behind and change the game) we don't have that at the moment. I don't think Carroll can provide that... let's face it he's never going to be a proflic goalscorer more of a provider IMO. Suarez? Maybe, still see him as creator though. Someone like Henry, Rudd Van Nistelrooy (in their prime). We're not going to be challenge at the top of the Premier League with the likes of Manchester City and United without a proven goalscorer.
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Jord wrote:What was the picture that caused shit to go down?
A banner saying "1989. Sheffield. There is a god."
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Who posted it?Cadbury wrote:Jord wrote:What was the picture that caused shit to go down?
A banner saying "1989. Sheffield. There is a god."
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MoorzyFilippo Inzaghi wrote:Who posted it?Cadbury wrote:
A banner saying "1989. Sheffield. There is a god."
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That is just wrong.Cadbury wrote:Jord wrote:What was the picture that caused shit to go down?
A banner saying "1989. Sheffield. There is a god."
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:That is just wrong.Cadbury wrote:
A banner saying "1989. Sheffield. There is a god."
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Aj11 wrote:Why does this thread always get invaded by wums
Jealousy.
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Look how much they shorten the pitch.
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I agree we do need a goal scorer suarez is more of a creator than a goal scorer Andy carrol in my opinon wil never score many goals what about bellamy everytime hes played so far mostly coming of the bench hes impressed me alot looks really good tho he plays on the wing mostly he can play as a striker aswell.Liverpool wrote:Suarez's goal was magic last night. I'm starting to really worry about us not taking our chances..last night we should of won by a fair few, we should also have beaten Norwich aswell. What we need is a proven goalscorer (someone who can come of the bench when we're behind and change the game) we don't have that at the moment. I don't think Carroll can provide that... let's face it he's never going to be a proflic goalscorer more of a provider IMO. Suarez? Maybe, still see him as creator though. Someone like Henry, Rudd Van Nistelrooy (in their prime). We're not going to be challenge at the top of the Premier League with the likes of Manchester City and United without a proven goalscorer.
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What a vile club.
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Good on Stoke, trying to restrict Liverpool's hoofball game.
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I thought Spearing had a fantastic game last night. He's really improved the passing side of his game
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England U16s play Wales tonight. Niall Heaton, Jordan Rossiter & Jerome Sinclair in England squad, Harry Wilson in Wales squad.
Sky Sports are showing it at 7.30 tonight.
England U16s play Wales tonight. Niall Heaton, Jordan Rossiter & Jerome Sinclair in England squad, Harry Wilson in Wales squad.
Sky Sports are showing it at 7.30 tonight.
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Liverpool wrote:Suarez's goal was magic last night. I'm starting to really worry about us not taking our chances..last night we should of won by a fair few, we should also have beaten Norwich aswell. What we need is a proven goalscorer (someone who can come of the bench when we're behind and change the game) we don't have that at the moment. I don't think Carroll can provide that... let's face it he's never going to be a proflic goalscorer more of a provider IMO. Suarez? Maybe, still see him as creator though. Someone like Henry, Rudd Van Nistelrooy (in their prime). We're not going to be challenge at the top of the Premier League with the likes of Manchester City and United without a proven goalscorer.
That sort of player isn't necessary to challenge for a Premier League, much less qualify for Europe. Chelsea finished 2nd last year and their top scorer was Florent Malouda. In fact, having a focal point like that can be quite harmful. There's a certain statistical correlation around one of the players you mention, Ruud van Nistelrooy.
3 years before Ruud signed for United - 3 Premier Leagues in a row, 1 Champions League, one Domestic Cup, one World Championship
5 Years Ruud was at United - 1 Premier League, 2 Domestic Cups, ignominy in the champions League despite van Nistelrooy being extremely prolific
3 years after Ruud left - 3 Premier Leagues in a row, 1 Champions League, 2 Domestic Cups, one World Championship
Now I wouldn't say there's definitely a connection there, it could well be a coincidence, but van Nistelrooy really is a terrible example to bring up. Moreover, in the Premier League, over 50% of the time, the team who has the League's top scorer doesn't actually win the League. Having several players who can score 10-20 goals is just as good, if not better than, having one focal point who can score 40 or 50.
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RR's quite right there. We need a number of players who can chip in. We won the Champions League without a goalscorer, Torres comes along and we win nothing and whenever Torres was well marked nobody could bail him out. Having said that, our finishing is painfully bad.
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Won't the green lines be what they have in Europe?Mr Leiva wrote:
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I dont remember the goal being that far back when we played there.. 
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Cadbury wrote:RR's quite right there. We need a number of players who can chip in. We won the Champions League without a goalscorer, Torres comes along and we win nothing and whenever Torres was well marked nobody could bail him out. Having said that, our finishing is painfully bad.
I wouldn't use the Champions League winning season as an example, for the majority of that season you were terrible, finishing 5th, and the win, coming back from 3-0 down, as much as it was an amazing achievement, it was a freak result, in a final that 99 times out of 100 you would not have reached.
No, the seasons I would use would be 2006/07, where you actually should have won the Champions League, where your top scorer only hit 12 in the League, and the 08/09 season, where you were the League's top goalscorers with 3 players hitting 9-24 goals, with Gerrard as top scorer, and you actually played better when he wasn't playing. You had 16 different goalscorers that season, a similar amount to what United did in 2006/07.
Big Goalscorers are iconic figures, the likes of Torres, van Nistelrooy, but they're not necessarily that helpful to the team.
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Tevez an example for City? Didn't he bang in 20+ the season they finished 5th below Tottenham or am I getting mixed up?
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Mc Babel wrote:Tevez an example for City? Didn't he bang in 20+ the season they finished 5th below Tottenham or am I getting mixed up?
Yes. Rooney hit a shitload of goals that season as well and we had our worst League finish for years. Although to be fair, Drogba was top scorer that season and Chelsea won scoring over 100 goals, and the wheels coming off our season coincided with Rooney getting injured.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Cadbury wrote:RR's quite right there. We need a number of players who can chip in. We won the Champions League without a goalscorer, Torres comes along and we win nothing and whenever Torres was well marked nobody could bail him out. Having said that, our finishing is painfully bad.
I wouldn't use the Champions League winning season as an example, for the majority of that season you were terrible, finishing 5th, and the win, coming back from 3-0 down, as much as it was an amazing achievement, it was a freak result, in a final that 99 times out of 100 you would not have reached.
No, the seasons I would use would be 2006/07, where you actually should have won the Champions League, where your top scorer only hit 12 in the League, and the 08/09 season, where you were the League's top goalscorers with 3 players hitting 9-24 goals, with Gerrard as top scorer, and you actually played better when he wasn't playing. You had 16 different goalscorers that season, a similar amount to what United did in 2006/07.
Big Goalscorers are iconic figures, the likes of Torres, van Nistelrooy, but they're not necessarily that helpful to the team.
In istanbul we won it 5 times.
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Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
I wouldn't use the Champions League winning season as an example, for the majority of that season you were terrible, finishing 5th, and the win, coming back from 3-0 down, as much as it was an amazing achievement, it was a freak result, in a final that 99 times out of 100 you would not have reached.
No, the seasons I would use would be 2006/07, where you actually should have won the Champions League, where your top scorer only hit 12 in the League, and the 08/09 season, where you were the League's top goalscorers with 3 players hitting 9-24 goals, with Gerrard as top scorer, and you actually played better when he wasn't playing. You had 16 different goalscorers that season, a similar amount to what United did in 2006/07.
Big Goalscorers are iconic figures, the likes of Torres, van Nistelrooy, but they're not necessarily that helpful to the team.
In istanbul we won it 5 times.
No you didn't, you won it once, in 2005. You also won the European Cup on another 3 occasions, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.
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No you didn't, you won it once, in 2005. You also won the European Cup on another 3 occasions, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:
In istanbul we won it 5 times.
No you didn't, you won it once, in 2005. You also won the European Cup on another 3 occasions, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.
We actually won the European cup on another 4 occasions, so maybe you should get some college work done and learn how to count instead of wuming on here. But its got to do with the fact that Liverpool won the European cup for the 5th time, with an amazing comeback in istanbul.
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You won it in 1977, 1981, 1984 and 2005, 4 times. I don't know where this myth comes from that you have won it 5 times, much less winning it 5 times in Istanbul.
David Haye won the World Title against Valuev, retained it against two men, and then lost it to Klitschko. In my mind that makes his a one time World Title winner.
David Haye won the World Title against Valuev, retained it against two men, and then lost it to Klitschko. In my mind that makes his a one time World Title winner.
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Alan, remove that signature immediately.
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Yea but it doesnt matter what you think, the fact is they won it 5 times.
