Republican Nominees

Roloman4 wrote:I don't know who to actually vote for... Huntsman is not going to win the primary... Paul is kind of insane... Obama is wants Americans to be detained, Romney is really not that different... Gingrich is an evil fucker...

Apart from his cowardly Iranian policy, his personal homophobia and his weird ideas about abortion, Ronald Paul seems like a sound candidate.

Muhkoo wrote:The only candidates that seem to still make any sense to me is Ron Paul or Jon Huntsman (At least i havent seen him do anything bad yet, he is a Mormon but not unlikeable like Romney) That being said, i still don't think either of the candidates can actually beat Obama

Huntsman is my second favorite Republican candidate.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:I don't know who to actually vote for... Huntsman is not going to win the primary... Paul is kind of insane... Obama is wants Americans to be detained, Romney is really not that different... Gingrich is an evil fucker...

Apart from his cowardly Iranian policy, his personal homophobia and his weird ideas about abortion, Ronald Paul seems like a sound candidate.

He... also thinks that Medicare and Medicaid are unconstitutional... which they are not...

He also opposes common sense FDA regulations.

His ideas about abortion are not weird... they are dumbass to the max... He would make a clump of cells an American citizen.

He's also unfortunately one that would return us to the late 18th century... that would be a disaster.

A lot of these candidates seem out of touch with reality.

I don't care who wins as long as they don't get elected.

ilJuventino wrote:A lot of these candidates seem out of touch with reality.

They are Republicans.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ilJuventino wrote:A lot of these candidates seem out of touch with reality.

They are Republicans.

Fair point.

The Des Moines Register poll showed Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, with 24% and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas with 22%. The No. 3 spot went to former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania with 15%, followed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with 12%, Texas Gov. Rick Perry with 11% and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota with 7%.

SBSP wrote:I don't care who wins as long as they don't get elected.

you want more Obama?

edit: you prob don't care..

El_indian wrote:

SBSP wrote:I don't care who wins as long as they don't get elected.

you want more Obama?

edit: you prob don't care..

Who would you rather have?

me? Ron Paul

El_indian wrote:me? Ron Paul

Ron Paul is great for people not in the US.

But he has the dumbass notion that clumps of cells are citizens.

Basically he says that if states want to make sodomy illegal let them be.


He's insane as far as states' rights go, if you live in a fucking bible-belt state, you are fucked, if you can't move out, you'll essentially be living in a theocracy.

I never understood the whole "states rights" thing. Isn't it stupid to have one law in one sate and another law in another state?

Roloman4 wrote:

El_indian wrote:me? Ron Paul

Ron Paul is great for people not in the US.

But he has the dumbass notion that clumps of cells are citizens.

Basically he says that if states want to make sodomy illegal let them be.


He's insane as far as states' rights go, if you live in a fucking bible-belt state, you are fucked, if you can't move out, you'll essentially be living in a theocracy.

that's a pretty extreme example and highly unlikely.

El_indian wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

Ron Paul is great for people not in the US.

But he has the dumbass notion that clumps of cells are citizens.

Basically he says that if states want to make sodomy illegal let them be.


He's insane as far as states' rights go, if you live in a fucking bible-belt state, you are fucked, if you can't move out, you'll essentially be living in a theocracy.

that's a pretty extreme example and highly unlikely.

Have you ever been to Louisiana/Alabama/Georgia/Texas... For fuck's sake look at Texas' governor?

Anything can happen.


Ahmed, States' rights is basically a principle that states that states have more of a right than the federal government to legislate.

Roloman4 wrote:

El_indian wrote:

that's a pretty extreme example and highly unlikely.

Have you ever been to Louisiana/Alabama/Georgia/Texas... For fuck's sake look at Texas' governor?

Anything can happen.


Ahmed, States' rights is basically a principle that states that states have more of a right than the federal government to legislate.

I understand what it means, I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. I think it's stupid that states have more rights than the federal government (especially when it comes to making laws).

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

Have you ever been to Louisiana/Alabama/Georgia/Texas... For fuck's sake look at Texas' governor?

Anything can happen.


Ahmed, States' rights is basically a principle that states that states have more of a right than the federal government to legislate.

I understand what it means, I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. I think it's stupid that states have more rights than the federal government (especially when it comes to making laws).

The whole battle over it began with John C. Calhoun and his Southern Democrats angry at the legislation the Whigs and such were making which didn't benefit them. John C. Calhoun as governor of South Carolina even threatened to outright disobey a legislation passed, until Andrew Jackson threatened to invade.

The reasoning is that the federal government may not always represent the interests of the states that well.

I think that states should have certain rights but not on fundamental issues like separation of church and state, free speech, racial equality, and other landmark American issues.

ahlycotc wrote:I never understood the whole "states rights" thing. Isn't it stupid to have one law in one sate and another law in another state?

No, its perfectly normal in a Federation made up of formerly independent States with differing cultures, prevailing opinions etc. Brazil, Germany, The United Kingdom, The European Union, Canada, all these bodies have smaller "states" or "countries" within them where the laws are slightly different.

The US itself was initially a confederation, the reason States Rights were drafted into the Constitution was simply to convince States to join the Union. Had the Constitution demanded that the States give up all Legislative power, it would never have got off the ground.

The Iowa Caucus is tomorrow.

Romney and Rick Santorum () are leading Ron Paul in Iowa by the slightest of margins, with about half the votes counted.

I'll be surprised if Rick Santorum wins. He was far from Romney and Paul in the pre-election surveys.

Only a hundred votes between Santorum and Romney

Yes, surprising for Santorum, but that's what rallies in 99 counties can do.

Gingrich looks defeated.

@RonPaul
Ron Paul
@JonHuntsman we found your one Iowa voter, he's in Linn precinct 5 you might want to call him and say thanks.

Wow, what a dick thing to say.

Never mind, that's a false account.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says he is returning to Texas to reassess his campaign.

Arizona Sen. John McCain will endorse Mitt Romney on Wednesday in New Hampshire.