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    Post by Sean Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:39 am

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    What is it?

    Chelsea are taking 'in-depth' measures to establish the accuracy of an interview in which Fernando Torres appeared to criticise his club-mates.

    The striker spoke to the official website of Spain's Primera Liga last week, with an English translation later appearing on the striker's personal website.

    Torres, who has endured a miserable run in front of goal since his £50million move from Liverpool, was quoted as branding Chelsea's "older" players as "very slow", and hailing new team-mate Juan Mata as a necessary signing.

    Manager Andre Villas-Boas sought an explanation from Torres, who claimed his words were not translated accurately on his own website.

    Chelsea were on Monday seeking to obtain a copy of the interview in its original Spanish and Villas-Boas revealed he would warn Torres not to speak so candidly about the club in future if the translation did stand up.


    He said: "We are going in-depth to regain the tape of that interview. We'll see if things play exactly as they are in that interview."

    The interview was authorised by Chelsea, otherwise Torres would have been facing a fine.

    Asked what action would be taken if the translation proved accurate, Villas-Boas said: "We'd just talk. Just talk. To share opinion. If it was unauthorised, I'd fine him. Of course."

    He added: "Anyhow, it's one player's perspective. I don't think it's a perspective that the manager shares. I don't have to share my players' ideas sometimes.

    "I think we have competence, apart from the 'age problem', which for me is not a problem. Maybe we just have to speak about that situation and he has to see our view as well."


    Torres' troubles show no sign of abating, with the 27-year-old losing his place in the side for Saturday's Premier League win at Sunderland having also failed to even make the bench for Spain's European Championship qualifier against Liechtenstein.

    Villas-Boas did not offer Torres an explanation having admitted 48 hours earlier he would not hesitate to drop the striker if it benefited the team.

    "I just made the changes," said Villas-Boas as he considers whether to recall Torres for Tuesday's UEFA Champions League opener against Bayer Leverkusen.
    "I think any player who's not part of the squad or the selected players is not happy.

    "I'm glad because maybe you can stimulate them to go one step further, or motivate them a bit more."

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11668_7172171,00.html

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    Post by Mouse Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:39 am

    Downingho, Hernandeson and Adám.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:40 am

    Sean wrote:
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    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11668_7172171,00.html

    Already been posted.

    Fuck my life then.
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:41 am

    Mc Babel wrote:Downingho, Hernandeson and Adám.
    Don't forget Royhendo.
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    Post by Jamie Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 am

    I'd take Torres back shifty
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 am

    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/Features/Comolli-on-tran-28242.php3

    Interesting.
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 am

    Jamie wrote:I'd take Torres back shifty
    I'd take him back if we could rewind 3 years to when he was good, and not a twat.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:43 am

    Jamie wrote:I'd take Torres back Liverpool FC Official Thread - Page 12 279869

    N'Great likes this.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:43 am

    Mr Leiva wrote:http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/Features/Comolli-on-tran-28242.php3

    Interesting.

    I thought it said 'Comolli on Train' and thought they had just filmed him on a train facepalm
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:43 am

    Mr Leiva wrote:http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/Features/Comolli-on-tran-28242.php3

    Interesting.

    What does he say? I don't have that online thing.
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    Post by Jamie Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:48 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Jamie wrote:I'd take Torres back Liverpool FC Official Thread - Page 12 279869

    N'Great likes this.

    Just watched a Torres video, made me sad. Cry
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:51 am

    I would take Torres back. Just get the feeling he would play better here. I honestly think if he came back, he'd score within 2 games.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:52 am

    I'd take him back.









    To improve our team on fifa.


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    Post by Sean Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:52 am

    But Scott he's done, he's finished, you told me all this.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:54 am

    Sean wrote:But Scott he's done, he's finished, you told me all this.

    While he's at chelsea, he's fucked. Liverpool just has that special effect on players.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:56 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:I'd take him back.









    To improve our team on fifa.

    This. shifty
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    Post by Cadbury Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:10 am

    Jamie wrote:
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    N'Great likes this.

    Just watched a Torres video, made me sad. Cry

    Was it the classic



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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:11 am

    This is the best Torres video..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YflS479W9SM
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    Post by Jamie Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:13 am

    Cadbury wrote:
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    Just watched a Torres video, made me sad. Cry

    Was it the classic



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    Nah, the This is the End one.

    The music in that video you linked is shit, ruins it.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:14 am

    Jamie wrote:
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    Was it the classic



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    Nah, the This is the End one.

    The music in that video you linked is shit, ruins it.

    IT HAS FALLEN FOR FERNANDO TORRREEEESSSS!!!!
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:15 am

    "It's a shame I didn't manage to establish myself as a starter in Liverpool but actually I have nothing bad to say about the club. There was just nothing that hinted they were going to play me frequently, and so I had to move to get playing time."

    "It may sound strange considering the adversity you could say I had part of the time, but I have nothing bad to say. It's a fantastic club in every way with greatness about everything going on".

    not worthy
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:15 am

    Dan wrote:"It's a shame I didn't manage to establish myself as a starter in Liverpool but actually I have nothing bad to say about the club. There was just nothing that hinted they were going to play me frequently, and so I had to move to get playing time."

    "It may sound strange considering the adversity you could say I had part of the time, but I have nothing bad to say. It's a fantastic club in every way with greatness about everything going on".

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    Post by El Jefe Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:15 am

    Who said that?
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:17 am

    Poulsen.
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:17 am

    Shit player, top professional.. not worthy
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:18 am


    With the transfer window now closed until January, Director of Football Damien Comolli answers a wide-range of questions sent in by supporters in our exclusive interview.

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    First of all Damien, you've had time to reflect on your work in the transfer window - how pleased are you in terms of the movement of players both in and out of the club?

    Well, we are very happy, but what we do during the season will decide how well we did in the transfer window. A lot of people are asking me the question 'are you happy with what you've done', I always say yes, but let's see where we are at the end of May and how well we have done in the league and in the cups.

    Also, it's not a work for one season, it's a work for two, three, four seasons, especially when you are investing in young players, as we've done. It's this season and then the next one and then he next one, and hopefully we'll reflect back on the summer of 2011 - which was crucial, we knew that - and then we'll be happy with the work we've done.

    How successful were we in signing the transfer targets we pinpointed at the start of the summer?

    I would say very successful. Most of the players we got were our priorities, or were our top two priorities. Obviously I don't to get into individual cases but we've done what we wanted to do and almost more important than players, it's the positions, and we strengthened the positions we had to strengthen. Sometimes it was more difficult, like the left-back position - I think it's difficult for every club to find left full-backs - but we were very happy to get Jose the day before the first game of the season.

    The two most difficult positions to fill in football are left full back and central defender because there is a shortage of talent worldwide, and that's why we're delighted to get the two we got in Sebastian Coates and Jose Enrique.



    How many people from within the club are involved in the process of a transfer from start to finish and what are their different roles??

    That's a short question but a very long answer.

    It starts with the scouts who work on the ground to identify players for a year, or even two years, following the players, sometimes longer. Once the scouts have done the work it comes to me and then to Kenny, and then we decide if it's the right player. Kenny can say 'I like him', 'I don't like him', 'he can fit into my team', 'he can't fit into my team', 'he's what we need', 'he's not what we need', and then once the football decision has been made I will explain to the owners why we want to go after this player and what the financial consequences are.

    We then start negotiating with the club and with the player, and sometimes that's the easy bit. It sounds very long and it is a long process but once we are negotiating with the club it can take days to sort out the paperwork. We are lucky enough to have a very, very good team on the administrative side of the football club, with Zoe Ward, the club secretary, and her team who have done a fantastic job during this transfer window. We had some difficult deals. We had a very difficult deal with Ajax back in January and getting Sebastian Coates from Nacional was very complicated and we had some late nights towards the end of the window. It's a long and complicated process.

    Sometimes the negotiations can be very frustrating when you are stuck for several days on a small point, and suddenly it goes very quickly and you do a deal very quickly. I don't enjoy it during the process but I really enjoy it when it's done and the player signs. You can then see everyone is happy, Kenny is delighted, the owners are happy, the player is happy to be here and we know he's going to be an important player for the future, then the enjoyment is there.

    How big is your scouting network and can you give us an idea of how the scouting process works and how it is coordinated?

    We've got quite an extensive scouting network throughout the world. We have developed the scouting network in the UK a lot since I joined the club. We've got a lot of full time scouts abroad now as well, constantly going to competitions. Whether they are based in the UK and travelling to competitions or based abroad and covering their countries, we are talking about eight or nine full-time scouts based abroad and at least as many in the UK. Steve Hitchen coordinates our scouting abroad - he is English but based in France - and then we've got two senior scouts - Mal Hutchinson and Alan Harper - coordinating the UK scouting network.

    Abroad they work from 16 to the first team and in the UK it's more 17/18 upwards. That's just for the reserve and first team. Then we've got a lot of scouts for the academy working both abroad and in the UK. It's very big locally, around Liverpool and the north west.

    If a local scout sees a player he will go and watch him in different circumstances; home, away, good weather, bad weather. If he's an attacking player can he play wide right, wide left, up front, so he tries to cover all possible situations.

    Once a player has been recommended by a scout one of the scouting coordinators will go and watch him and that's where I start to get involved, going to watch the player as well, gathering information and data on him. If everything is very positive then we take it to Kenny and say 'we are looking for a left back - we think he's the one or he should go on the list as number two, number three, number one etc'. From then we go to do the deal. It's a very long process.



    You expressed in a recent interview following the closure of the window that you had explained to the owners incoming players would have to precede outgoing players. How did you convince the owners to accept this, how accepting were they and what was the reason for this approach?

    Trying to 'convince' the owners is not the right way to put it. They are people who are used to winning in everything they've done. The question from them was 'how can we win?' What they say is they are here to win and if they want to win we had to turn things around quite quickly. They understood very easily that if we had to wait to sell players before getting players in then first of all it would take a lot of time to do, and secondly our main targets would more than likely be gone before we could turn around and say 'okay, now we are ready to go and buy this player'.

    They got it very quickly, and I've got to say - and I've said previously - that you've got to be brave when you are an owner to accept that because if at the end we didn't sell the players we had to sell it would have cost the club and them a of money. That's why I think they were very, very brave. They understood the process very quickly and they said they wanted to take the chance because they wanted to turn things around. They said if we can dramatically improve the team by doing some business quite early and buying before we sell, we trust you and we trust Kenny, so let's do it.

    How much of an input does the manager and his coaching staff have in any decision to sign a particular player?

    A massive input because if there is a player Kenny isn't comfortable with then we'll never sign him. He's the one at the end who has to say 'I'm really comfortable with this player' and 'I like your recommendation' or 'I don't like your recommendation'. The input from Kenny is massive, probably the most important. Then there are ongoing discussions all the time with the coaching staff because Steve spent a lot of time at the highest level with other clubs, he played against a lot of players and his teams played against a lot of players in the Champions League and other competitions, so you'll always get input from the coaching staff as well.

    When we looked at goalkeepers during the summer to bring in a number two behind Pepe, obviously John [Achterberg] had a massive input into that. I was giving him reports and DVDs and saying to him we had a choice. He's the specialist as the goalkeeper coach. I like to rely on goalkeeper coaches to tell us 'yes' or 'no' and to give their opinion because goalkeeper coaches will see things that nobody else will see. They've got this obsession with this position and I often say they speak their own language! I don't think we would have done anything on the goalkeeper side against John's advice.



    Do you speak with the captain or other players about transfer targets?

    It really depends on the player. Stevie, for instance, has played with Jordan Henderson, they've trained and played together at Wembley against France, so of course it wouldn't be very clever not to ask Stevie. I did ask him what he thought, how he is as a player, as an individual, is he a good trainer, how does he behave off the pitch, is he respectful, things like this. It was exactly the same in January talking to Stevie and the other England lads about Andy Carroll. The same thing with Dirk Kuyt, being Dutch, he knew a lot about Luis Suarez. You always ask for reference. I wouldn't say we ask for advice and ask one player whether we should sign a player, but the more dialogue and more communication there is the better it is.

    We've had lots of fans asking why Raul Meireles was allowed to leave the club to sign for one of our rivals?

    I think Raul said it himself with what I've seen recently in the press. Basically, he came to see me and said 'I want to leave, I want to play for another club'. Our intention was not to sell him but we were put in a corner a little bit when he put in a transfer request and said he wanted to go and that he didn't want to play for Liverpool anymore. I think the owners and Kenny have said it, and we all have the same view. When someone doesn't want to be here it's difficult to say 'you are going to stay'. We've been through that process in January with Fernando Torres and this felt like the same situation. We've done it, we think it was the right thing to do for the club, because it's very, very difficult to have somebody here who doesn't want to be here. The job of the manager in the Premier League is already difficult having to manage 25 players and only having 11 to start on a match day, so you have to deal with all the others. On top of that if you have someone who is adamant they don't want to be here and wants to play for someone else, we took the view it's better if he goes and we get the best possible deal for the club. In the end I think we did well.

    We've also had a number of supporters wanting to know why Alberto Aquilani was allowed to leave on loan when he had impressed during pre-season?

    With him it was more a question of opportunities to play. He's obviously a big player, he's got a very good resume and he's a very good player. But Kenny and the coaching staff felt he would play in a certain position. As I told Alberto during the summer, unfortunately in that position is someone called Steven Gerrard and it would have been difficult for Alberto to play. There were different reasons. There were tactical reasons, the fact he was playing in this position and also we felt it would have been very difficult to keep him here not playing regularly.

    I've got to say I was very impressed with the way Alberto behaved throughout the process. He was really an act of class. He only wanted to play football. He was not obsessed about money or anything else and to be fair to him, I was very impressed by his attitude and his personality.

    Is it true that we have first refusal on Eden Hazard as part of the loan deal for Joe Cole?

    No, it's not true. I've seen those reports, but it's not true. He's a very good player, as everybody knows, but there's no truth in it.

    Why have we loaned out Dani Pacheco?

    Dani has gone on loan because we want to see him play in the first team somewhere. Last year he went to the Championship and had a good start, then he was sub for a few games, but he did well in those games. We know how well he can do at youth level, he did really well last year in the U19 European championships when Spain lost in the final against France, he did well at the U20 World Cup in Colombia in August, we were there and watched all the games.

    The next step is 'can you show us what you can do in the first team?' It would have been difficult for him to play in our first team, and rather than play in the reserves we thought if there is an opportunity for him to go on loan to a good team in a top league, and we can see what he can do and if he can develop, it would be a good opportunity. That's why we took it.

    I call it a development loan. Put the player on loan, see how he develops and then that will give us a very strong indication of where his career is going. It's a little bit like Peter Gulacsi, who is on loan at Hull City. We think Peter has got fantastic potential for the future, he's done extremely well with the U21s for Hungary, he captained the team, he played in the Toulon tournament at the end of May against very good teams and he was outstanding, and we felt that this year was important for him for his development.

    We will monitor both of them very closely.



    Clearly the squad has improved over recent months - but are there areas you are already targeting as needing further strengthening?

    Not at the moment. We want to see how we're going to do. We are very, very pleased with what we've done during this window, and the previous one as well. For me it's like a big window from January until the 31st of August and in total we brought in nine players, we changed the team and changed the squad, so it's the time to reflect. To be honest with you I would really struggle to answer the question now and say we need something there or something there, because I think we have such a complete squad at the moment. Let's see how those players develop, how they gel together, how the young players like Sebastian Coates adapts, and then we can make a decision later.

    People doubted whether a Director of Football would work at Liverpool - tell us how your relationship has been with Kenny Dalglish during this transfer window....

    It has been excellent, not only during the transfer window but from the first day Kenny started we've enjoyed a great relationship at work, and even out of work. It's an ongoing process both before the start of the window and then during the window, talking every day, even if he's away and I'm in the office. Sometimes we talk several times a day because things can change constantly, you think there is a deal and then there is no deal or a club is interested in one of our players and then the next minute they are not interested anymore, so there's a lot of communication all the time, seeing things the same way.

    There wasn't one time during the summer when we didn't agree on everything, whether it was players going out or players coming in. Also, because we prepared so much for the window in the last six months we knew before it started what we wanted to do. When you've done all the preparation it's almost a smooth process. We say 'we want him, him and him, they are our targets so let's try to go and get them'. Then it's just a question of timing. Kenny knew exactly what I was doing, when and why. I kept him informed through the progression of all the deals. We didn't change from our idea, we knew the positions we needed to strengthen and the players we wanted, so it was quite an easy process.

    Towards the final stage of the window, obviously he knew we were following Coates, I had told him during the Copa America so he could watch him, we had two scouts over there so they were sending reports every time he played a game. Kenny could follow the progression of the player, how he was doing etc.

    The relationship has been really, really good, not only during the window but overall.
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    Post by Jamie Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:21 am

    The Aquilani part rofl
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    Post by Guest Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:23 am

    Get over it already. He didn't want to be here.
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    Post by Sean Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:24 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Sean wrote:But Scott he's done, he's finished, you told me all this.

    While he's at chelsea, he's fucked. Liverpool just has that special effect on players.

    You're absolutely right, Andy Carroll is thriving right about now.
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    Post by Jamie Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:24 am

    I wouldn't want to be either if my club don't want me because they have an injured player in my position.

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