Official Arsenal FC Thread

Chris wrote:Well this isn't NFL so looking at it that way is being an idiot.

Your opinion not mine. You say what you want and I will say what I want.

Okay. Thanks.

Jamie wrote:

Arise, you being serious? You know I rate Gervinho more than most on here but those expectations are extreme.

No, I was being facetious since I know how much Fonseca HATES Gervinho. I think his rating is either too high or Van Persie's is too low considering that he is an 84 to Robin's 87. I rate him highly, but he is a monster on this game.

Hes shite in real life, hes shite on the game.

Walcott is so bad aswell

I would have made his pace in the 85-88 range because he is fast and his dribbling in the 80-85 range since he can operate in tight spaces and he is a very tricky dribbler.

AriseForLife wrote:No, I was being facetious since I know how much Fonseca HATES Gervinho. I think his rating is either too high or Van Persie's is too low considering that he is an 84 to Robin's 87. I rate him highly, but he is a monster on this game.

Fair enough. Glad van Persie is finally getting the recognition he deserves on the game, it only took a monster goalscoring run to do so.

I still think 87 is too low though. Some of his ratings are a tad too low, but it is nice to see him finally in the upper tier among ratings.

Oddly enough Laurent Koscielny is a fucking MONSTER on this game. Too bad he isn't like that in real life.

Same can be said for Diaby.

Steadman wrote:Same can be said for Diaby.

Diaby has been over-power for a few years in fifa now. It's not even funny how good he is in the demo. Play him as the more forward holding midfielder and you'll see.

LOL I keep taking him off the bench. I might have to look into him so I can see how much bull shit EA is on in regards to him.

Grenade, I know. I was playing him, Song and Wilshere as a trio, worked a bit too well.

You guys don't get it.

You use Diaby in the game well because he is a massive fucking beast with a bit of pace. He is the same massive beast in real life but he doesn't use himself as well as you do on FIFA.

what formation should i roll with, with Arsenal?

justaddfinesse wrote:what formation should i roll with, with Arsenal?

I run the 4-4-1-1 with Gervinho in the hole and Van Persie playing striker. The 4-1-4-1 also works very well too.

4231 is just.. too cluttered in my opinion.. unlike in fifa 11. and way too defensive.. even though fifa 12 is complete shit so far.

I think this is the best version ever based on the initial demo. The fluidity of the game is a lot better than 10 and 11. I am looking forward to the final product.

^^
It's alot slower, and actually takes a bit of skill to play. Much better than 11.

lol wilsheres face is like.. spot on.

hilarious looking

BMxJoga wrote:^^
It's alot slower, and actually takes a bit of skill to play. Much better than 11.

I've seen this comment a lot, what do you mean by it? FIFA 11 took skill to play, that's why some people were better than others, and some people could consistently beat others. As far as I can see, the skillset required here is just radically different from FIFA 11's.

you cant even get the fucking ball from the AI unless they give it to you..

im even playing on Pro.. and its that way.

everything is just too fucking slow and unresponsive. no idea how you guys can enjoy this garbage.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:^^
It's alot slower, and actually takes a bit of skill to play. Much better than 11.

I've seen this comment a lot, what do you mean by it? FIFA 11 took skill to play, that's why some people were better than others, and some people could consistently beat others. As far as I can see, the skillset required here is just radically different from FIFA 11's.

I mean that FIFA 12 benefits people who understand football rather then video gamers. IE defending is very akin to real life and even the ping pong passing I've been used to seeing on H2H looks harder to do. Closest thing to a sim yet.

id like to see some stat sheets from you guys after a game with the AI on world class or higher. i really would.

BMxJoga wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

I've seen this comment a lot, what do you mean by it? FIFA 11 took skill to play, that's why some people were better than others, and some people could consistently beat others. As far as I can see, the skillset required here is just radically different from FIFA 11's.

I mean that FIFA 12 benefits people who understand football rather then video gamers. IE defending is very akin to real life and even the ping pong passing I've been used to seeing on H2H looks harder to do. Closest thing to a sim yet.

It "benefits people who understand football", that's an interesting assertion, I'm wondering how you came to that conclusion though. Did you get the most successful managers in football and get them to play it? Did you find the people who you consider to understand football the best, and get them to play it, and compare their results with FIFA 11's? Or did you just look at it and think "I understand football" (like every other football fan) and enjoy the game? I'm betting it's the last one.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

BMxJoga wrote:

I mean that FIFA 12 benefits people who understand football rather then video gamers. IE defending is very akin to real life and even the ping pong passing I've been used to seeing on H2H looks harder to do. Closest thing to a sim yet.

It "benefits people who understand football", that's an interesting assertion, I'm wondering how you came to that conclusion though. Did you get the most successful managers in football and get them to play it? Did you find the people who you consider to understand football the best, and get them to play it, and compare their results with FIFA 11's? Or did you just look at it and think "I understand football" (like every other football fan) and enjoy the game? I'm betting it's the last one.

Seriously? Are you implying that only successful managers understand football? I consider the people who understand football to be the people who actually watch the sport and enjoy it. Not people who are good at FIFA because they press buttons.

I personally don't enjoy pressing LT + A and getting a tackle every time, or a cutback and a finesse into the corner or some other cheap trick I've seen in almost a year. I like playing people who can string 3 or 4 passes together in a video game and get me to move like a real life player would. I didn't know Sir Alex was on XBOX, I'll ask him for a game on both 11 and 12 and get back to you.

do you realize how long i have to run around trying to get the ball from the AI.. on PROFESSIONAL DIFFICULTY..

this is coming from a guy who tears it up on FIFA 11.. beating the cpu comfortably on the highest difficulty.

my passes and shit is all over the place, weak and go astray, while the cpu are precise, accurate, powerful, and can weave through my apparently open formation like nothing. 4231 defensive? guess not.

I didnt know FIFA 12 is now called.. "just sit back and wait for the attacking side to make a mistake.. that's defence"

Ehh, I like it. Each to their own I guess. I'm sure you will adjust though and get the hang of it. Do you use the tactical defending? My passing has been off as well(Keeping in mind I played Manual for a lot of 11) but I am enjoying it more, feels like a real game to me.

im using whatever is default.

it just.. fucking blows my mind how i can be completely dominant on and offline on FIFA 11 on every difficulty, etc.. then I play FIFA 12.. and i cant even contain a dribbler, stop an attack.. or string some passes together and get open enough to dribble down the pitch.

it's just a fucking joke.

70/30 is the possession against the CPU every game. you cannot stop them.. and you cannot get anything going for yourself..

If you have 70/30 possession against the CPU you suck, no offense. In my most recent match against Manchester City the split was 52/48 in my favor and most of their possession was due to Yaya Toure being fucking Diego Zidane and basically having the ball stuck to his feet. The reason I like 12 more than 11 is because 12 appears to be a lot more tactical at least in the demo. I have been fooled before with EA games from demo to final release so I will wait until the game comes out before cementing that comment. The game is definitely slower and the speed seems a lot more realistic than in years past when basically everyone could blaze down the pitch.

AriseForLife wrote:If you have 70/30 possession against the CPU you suck, no offense. In my most recent match against Manchester City the split was 52/48 in my favor and most of their possession was due to Yaya Toure being fucking Diego Zidane and basically having the ball stuck to his feet. The reason I like 12 more than 11 is because 12 appears to be a lot more tactical at least in the demo. I have been fooled before with EA games from demo to final release so I will wait until the game comes out before cementing that comment. The game is definitely slower and the speed seems a lot more realistic than in years past when basically everyone could blaze down the pitch.

my game-play and results throughout my FIFA career say differently.

You must be playing on Amateur.


If you have to double cover a passing outlet to get the ball back and leave the ball handler open to do whatever he wants.. there's something wrong with the game.