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    Post by Yrael Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:06 pm

    Mal wrote:2 points off fourth (our target) and in the last 16 of the Champions League but it's the game against Bradford in the shitty league cup that means he should go. clap


    I think it is time but this game has no bearing on that at all.

    I'd disagree with that. Nearly our strongest team couldn't beat Bradford? It just reinforces the fact that there's some serious fault with the coaching and tactics. Not to mention Wenger continuing to play Ramsey on the wing and Gervinho up front even though it's painfully obvious they don't play well there.
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    Post by Grenade Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:14 pm

    Mal wrote: this game has no bearing on that at all.

    Of Course it does. You have to question his tactical ability if he failed to beat a mediocre Bradford side, especially with the quality of players he had available. When I saw the lineup I was expecting Arsenal to score at least 6 goals lmao. Bradford were missing their 2 starting centrebacks and both starting wide players which makes it worse.
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    Post by Mal Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:59 pm

    I meant that by it didn't affect how I feel about Wenger. This result has nothing to do with why I want him to leave.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:03 am

    Yrael wrote:
    Mal wrote:2 points off fourth (our target) and in the last 16 of the Champions League but it's the game against Bradford in the shitty league cup that means he should go. clap


    I think it is time but this game has no bearing on that at all.

    I'd disagree with that. Nearly our strongest team couldn't beat Bradford? It just reinforces the fact that there's some serious fault with the coaching and tactics. Not to mention Wenger continuing to play Ramsey on the wing and Gervinho up front even though it's painfully obvious they don't play well there.

    Not really, it reinforces how shit this team is if anything. So many in the first team need to be moved on like Vermaelen, Forehead, Ramsey, Podolski, Mertesacker etc

    Tactics are fucked, but this team couldn't cut it if they tried
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    Post by Bushido Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:45 am

    The person on SSN then saying Steve Bould has barely any coaching to do and that Arsene doesn't train much for defense.

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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:29 am

    Carlos Jenkinson wrote:
    Yrael wrote:

    I'd disagree with that. Nearly our strongest team couldn't beat Bradford? It just reinforces the fact that there's some serious fault with the coaching and tactics. Not to mention Wenger continuing to play Ramsey on the wing and Gervinho up front even though it's painfully obvious they don't play well there.

    Not really, it reinforces how shit this team is if anything. So many in the first team need to be moved on like Vermaelen, Forehead, Ramsey, Podolski, Mertesacker etc

    Tactics are fucked, but this team couldn't cut it if they tried

    I thought Podolski was world class?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:32 am

    It's such a shame that Vermaelen is consistently proving me correct, our worst captain since I can remember.
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    Post by wellz Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:37 am

    Don't get the loyalty to the manager (in general not people on here). Arsenal were a top club before Wenger and will be afterwards. Just don't delay afterwards until its too late
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:38 am

    wellz wrote:Don't get the loyalty to the manager (in general not people on here). Arsenal were a top club before Wenger and will be afterwards. Just don't delay afterwards until its too late

    Nah, Arsenal fans need to be careful what they wish for. Losing Wenger could plummet them to mid-table obscurity.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:40 am

    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/12/12/3597296/guardiola-tells-arsenal-youre-my-top-choice-in-england hehe
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    Post by wellz Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:42 am

    S. wrote:
    wellz wrote:Don't get the loyalty to the manager (in general not people on here). Arsenal were a top club before Wenger and will be afterwards. Just don't delay afterwards until its too late

    Nah, Arsenal fans need to be careful what they wish for. Losing Wenger could plummet them to mid-table obscurity.

    That's the toughest part of firing a manager/coach in any sport. The fear of it becoming worse. But change is a necessity here. Too bad QPR got Harry, he could probably sort things out temporally, Guardiola has shown interest, Laudrup is showing he is a fine manager. There are managers out there
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:55 am

    S. wrote:
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    Not really, it reinforces how shit this team is if anything. So many in the first team need to be moved on like Vermaelen, Forehead, Ramsey, Podolski, Mertesacker etc

    Tactics are fucked, but this team couldn't cut it if they tried

    I thought Podolski was world class?

    Your words not mine
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:57 am

    Carlos Jenkinson wrote:
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    I thought Podolski was world class?

    Your words not mine

    Pretty sure I was slaughtered by a section of Arsenal fans on here when I said he was an average signing.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:00 am

    S. wrote:
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    Your words not mine

    Pretty sure I was slaughtered by a section of Arsenal fans on here when I said he was an average signing.

    How interesting
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:31 am

    S. wrote:
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    Your words not mine

    Pretty sure I was slaughtered by a section of Arsenal fans on here when I said he was an average signing.
    I said after the euro's he will be class as long as we don't waste him out on the left how Germany play him.

    Wenger has done exactly that and I was correct.
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    Post by Cam Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:06 am

    Is Podolski doing badly? I thought he was doing alright (not setting the world alight, but he was scoring a few goals)
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:17 am

    Funny how people are mentioning Vermaelen going when not too long ago so many of our supporters on this board were all on his dick. I don't think Podolski or Gervinho need to leave, I think they need to be played in their best positions. Gervinho has never and will never be a ST yet he plays there a lot lately. AW is not going to get another Henry with him so I wish he would stop trying to convert him. We would be a lot better off with Gervinho wide and Podolski/Giroud in the middle or even having Podolski in the hole with Giroud.

    Wenger has lost his touch and I agree with Mal that this game had no bearing (hence why I have been saying let him go for years or get someone in the club a la Dein to reduce his power), for me it has more to do with his lack of adjusting and sticking to his stubborn view of how the club should be cultivated.
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    Post by Mal Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:18 am

    wellz wrote:Don't get the loyalty to the manager (in general not people on here). Arsenal were a top club before Wenger and will be afterwards. Just don't delay afterwards until its too late

    rofl

    Wenger has taken Arsenal to a completely new level. Absolutely fucking clueless.
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    Post by Mal Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:22 am

    AriseForLife wrote:Funny how people are mentioning Vermaelen going when not too long ago so many of our supporters on this board were all on his dick. I don't think Podolski or Gervinho need to leave, I think they need to be played in their best positions. Gervinho has never and will never be a ST yet he plays there a lot lately. AW is not going to get another Henry with him so I wish he would stop trying to convert him. We would be a lot better off with Gervinho wide and Podolski/Giroud in the middle or even having Podolski in the hole with Giroud.

    Wenger has lost his touch and I agree with Mal that this game had no bearing (hence why I have been saying let him go for years or get someone in the club a la Dein to reduce his power), for me it has more to do with his lack of adjusting and sticking to his stubborn view of how the club should be cultivated.

    I don't know why you back Gervinho. He's fucking useless and the only place he'd be of any benefit to us is buried underground.
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    Post by Jorlung Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:54 am

    I don't get the logic of playing Podolski on the wing while Gervinho is playing striker.
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    Post by Novi Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:56 am

    I never understood why Bendtner was played on the right wing but hey, thats Wenger for you.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:58 am

    AriseForLife wrote:Funny how people are mentioning Vermaelen going when not too long ago so many of our supporters on this board were all on his dick. I don't think Podolski or Gervinho need to leave, I think they need to be played in their best positions. Gervinho has never and will never be a ST yet he plays there a lot lately. AW is not going to get another Henry with him so I wish he would stop trying to convert him. We would be a lot better off with Gervinho wide and Podolski/Giroud in the middle or even having Podolski in the hole with Giroud.

    Wenger has lost his touch and I agree with Mal that this game had no bearing (hence why I have been saying let him go for years or get someone in the club a la Dein to reduce his power), for me it has more to do with his lack of adjusting and sticking to his stubborn view of how the club should be cultivated.



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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:47 am

    Novi wrote:I never understood why Bendtner was played on the right wing but hey, thats Wenger for you.
    Bendtner on the wing, Ramsey on the wing, Podolski on the wing it's just a joke tbh. Chamberlain has done fuck all this season, he seems to think he can take everyone on and he's slowly letting Sterling catch up with him. Tbh I can't blame him when we have players like Ramsey and Gervinho playing who can't pass/control the ball anymore. There was no urgency in ET from our players at all, did they really think that going to penalties against an extremely weak team compared to ours was gonna be a great result. Even if we won on penalties it was poor, I can't even attempt to say we should have played Giroud or him or that because even the team we started against Reading in the last round should have thrashed Bradford City. It just showed we lack that penetration we used to have, Cazorla, Wilshere and Rosicky were the creators yesterday, but you can't even blame them as there was no movement up top at all, or from our wide players. I don't even no what else to say really. Only Arsenal would lose to a team 50+ places below them with their full squad.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:49 am

    Yes, it's time for him to move on. Great manager but he's clearly lost the fucking plot when it comes to Arsenal.
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:53 am

    Mal wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Funny how people are mentioning Vermaelen going when not too long ago so many of our supporters on this board were all on his dick. I don't think Podolski or Gervinho need to leave, I think they need to be played in their best positions. Gervinho has never and will never be a ST yet he plays there a lot lately. AW is not going to get another Henry with him so I wish he would stop trying to convert him. We would be a lot better off with Gervinho wide and Podolski/Giroud in the middle or even having Podolski in the hole with Giroud.

    Wenger has lost his touch and I agree with Mal that this game had no bearing (hence why I have been saying let him go for years or get someone in the club a la Dein to reduce his power), for me it has more to do with his lack of adjusting and sticking to his stubborn view of how the club should be cultivated.

    I don't know why you back Gervinho. He's fucking useless and the only place he'd be of any benefit to us is buried underground.

    That's because I don't find him completely useless. You can't expect to get the best out of a player when he is being asked to do something he is not accustomed to doing. It's plain as day obvious that his finishing is on a level of terrible that has no word, but he is very useful in many other facets of our game. Playing him as the lone ST is basically asking him to fail, but he will never admit that because professional footballers don't do things like that. Maybe one day he show me otherwise, but I have followed him far to long to just give up on him when I know that he has class.
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    Post by wellz Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:54 am

    Mal wrote:
    wellz wrote:Don't get the loyalty to the manager (in general not people on here). Arsenal were a top club before Wenger and will be afterwards. Just don't delay afterwards until its too late

    rofl

    Wenger has taken Arsenal to a completely new level. Absolutely fucking clueless.

    10 league titles
    6 FA cups
    2 league cups
    1 European cup winners cup

    All before Arsene's time? What are you trying to say Arsenal were a small club prior to Wenger? Take his tiny French cock out of your mouth
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    Post by Yrael Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:20 am

    wellz wrote:
    Mal wrote:

    rofl

    Wenger has taken Arsenal to a completely new level. Absolutely fucking clueless.

    10 league titles
    6 FA cups
    2 league cups
    1 European cup winners cup

    All before Arsene's time? What are you trying to say Arsenal were a small club prior to Wenger? Take his tiny French cock out of your mouth

    It's one thing to say Wenger is a shit manager but saying he has a tiny cock with no evidence is crossing the line.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:45 am

    AriseForLife wrote:
    Mal wrote:

    I don't know why you back Gervinho. He's fucking useless and the only place he'd be of any benefit to us is buried underground.

    That's because I don't find him completely useless. You can't expect to get the best out of a player when he is being asked to do something he is not accustomed to doing. It's plain as day obvious that his finishing is on a level of terrible that has no word, but he is very useful in many other facets of our game. Playing him as the lone ST is basically asking him to fail, but he will never admit that because professional footballers don't do things like that. Maybe one day he show me otherwise, but I have followed him far to long to just give up on him when I know that he has class.

    His best in his position isn't even mediocre, it's worse

    Wilshere, Cazorla and Rosicky purposely didn't pass to him when he was on the wing because he's a fucking donut
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:10 am

    wellz wrote:
    Mal wrote:

    rofl

    Wenger has taken Arsenal to a completely new level. Absolutely fucking clueless.

    10 league titles
    6 FA cups
    2 league cups
    1 European cup winners cup

    All before Arsene's time? What are you trying to say Arsenal were a small club prior to Wenger? Take his tiny French cock out of your mouth
    You are completely missing the point of his reply. He is referring to the new level of mediocrity that is happening at Arsenal. You have completely misunderstood Mal.
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:11 am

    Carlos Jenkinson wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:

    That's because I don't find him completely useless. You can't expect to get the best out of a player when he is being asked to do something he is not accustomed to doing. It's plain as day obvious that his finishing is on a level of terrible that has no word, but he is very useful in many other facets of our game. Playing him as the lone ST is basically asking him to fail, but he will never admit that because professional footballers don't do things like that. Maybe one day he show me otherwise, but I have followed him far to long to just give up on him when I know that he has class.

    His best in his position isn't even mediocre, it's worse

    Wilshere, Cazorla and Rosicky purposely didn't pass to him when he was on the wing because he's a fucking donut
    Doesn't matter. I am still going to support him because I think he is quality.

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