Ahly would you be impressed if Stoke City qualified for the Champions League? Because in 4 years they have spent £48m nett, Arsenal have spent £21m in 20 years.
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Should Wenger Get The Sack?
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Should Wenger Be Sacked?
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Danny wrote:I've been reading it they got Eto'o for €20 and sold Ibra for €50m.Theo Filippo wrote:I thought it was around 35 + Eto'o valued at 25m?
They got Eto'o + €46m for Ibrahimovic.
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ahlycotc wrote:Rick Rosstrich wrote:There's plenty of major reasons to keep Wenger, like consistently delivering Champions League football on a budget smaller than Bolton.
What if he fails to deliver that for next season? That was my initial question.
Arsenal have a much better squad than Bolton. So what's the point of that comparison?
That's because of Wenger, there's the point
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Rick Rosstrich wrote:Ahly would you be impressed if Stoke City qualified for the Champions League? Because in 4 years they have spent £48m nett, Arsenal have spent £21m in 20 years.
Of course I would. They have a weaker squad and a weaker manager at the helm. They might finish in the top half this season, and that's good for them.
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Fonseca wrote:ahlycotc wrote:Rick Rosstrich wrote:There's plenty of major reasons to keep Wenger, like consistently delivering Champions League football on a budget smaller than Bolton.
What if he fails to deliver that for next season? That was my initial question.
Arsenal have a much better squad than Bolton. So what's the point of that comparison?
That's because of Wenger, there's the point
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Theo Filippo wrote:Do not insult his style of playilJuventino wrote:
He did so because he brought in quality players (Milito, Eto'o, Sneijder). Yet he still parked the bus a shitload of times, even though his team in the league was still leaps and bounds better than the competition., watching those defensive master-classes were great
Personally, it's not my cup of tea.
He's a great motivator though, at least from what I've heard/read. His players really respect him.
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Fonseca wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
What if he fails to deliver that for next season? That was my initial question.
Arsenal have a much better squad than Bolton. So what's the point of that comparison?
That's because of Wenger, there's the point
Why are you comparing your club to Bolton though? Surely you have higher ambitions than that.
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Either way, if you took the ridiculous sum they got for Ibrahimovic out, their net spend isn't impressive.ilJuventino wrote:Danny wrote:I've been reading it they got Eto'o for €20 and sold Ibra for €50m.
They got Eto'o + €46m for Ibrahimovic.
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ahlycotc wrote:Fonseca wrote:
That's because of Wenger, there's the point
Why are you comparing your club to Bolton though? Surely you have higher ambitions than that.
That's exactly the point. We're a lot better than a team like Bolton even though the teams' respective net spends are somewhat comparable and that is a testament to Wenger's ability.
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Fucking give it a rest. Obviously we are better than Bolton, have higher ambitions and have more quality throughout the entire club.
This is so pointless.
This is so pointless.
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I don't like usually watching football played like that but it was brilliant with InterilJuventino wrote:Theo Filippo wrote:Do not insult his style of play
Personally, it's not my cup of tea.
He's a great motivator though, at least from what I've heard/read. His players really respect him.
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Q: What if we don't get CL for next season?
A: Then we look to make some squad changes to get back in it. What else are you expecting to be said? CL isn't the only thing to play for. It's not the end all be all of football.
A: Then we look to make some squad changes to get back in it. What else are you expecting to be said? CL isn't the only thing to play for. It's not the end all be all of football.
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Yes it is.Danny wrote:Either way, if you took the ridiculous sum they got for Ibrahimovic out, their net spend isn't impressive.ilJuventino wrote:
They got Eto'o + €46m for Ibrahimovic.
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BladeGunner wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Why are you comparing your club to Bolton though? Surely you have higher ambitions than that.
That's exactly the point. We're a lot better than a team like Bolton even though the teams' respective net spends are somewhat comparable and that is a testament to Wenger's ability.
Is Wenger better than Owen Coyle? Yes, I'm not denying that. But are you saying Wenger should stay at the helm as long as he is doing better than Bolton and spending less or the same? It seems like I have totally misevaluated Arsenal fans' ambitions.
So I come to the questions once more, what does it take for Wenger to be sacked? Is he untouchable?
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ahlycotc wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
That's exactly the point. We're a lot better than a team like Bolton even though the teams' respective net spends are somewhat comparable and that is a testament to Wenger's ability.
Is Wenger better than Owen Coyle? Yes, I'm not denying that. But are you saying Wenger should stay at the helm as long as he is doing better than Bolton and spending less or the same? It seems like I have totally misevaluated Arsenal fans' ambitions.
So I come to the questions once more, what does it take for Wenger to be sacked? Is he untouchable?
Ahly, fuck off and stop being a dickhead. If you're not going to bother to properly listen to what anyone is saying then just stop being annoying.
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BladeGunner wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Is Wenger better than Owen Coyle? Yes, I'm not denying that. But are you saying Wenger should stay at the helm as long as he is doing better than Bolton and spending less or the same? It seems like I have totally misevaluated Arsenal fans' ambitions.
So I come to the questions once more, what does it take for Wenger to be sacked? Is he untouchable?
Ahly, fuck off and stop being a dickhead. If you're not going to bother to properly listen to what anyone is saying then just stop being annoying.
Again with the personal attacks. I'm being a dickhead and a troll because I don't hold the same opinions as you.
I have been reading what people are saying. Mal said Arsenal have net spending comparable to Bolton, yet Arsenal are doing better (because of Wenger's ability). Yeah, I don't disagree. Wenger is a much better manager than Coyle. He has a better squad than Coyle to work with.
A manager should be judged upon his performances compared to his expectations. So I have been trying for the last hour to get someone to tell me what Wenger's expectations are. Is it CL football? If so, I asked what if he fails to reach that expectation?
Like I said, maybe I have the wrong expectations of Arsenal. So tell me what the expectations of your club are. It's starting to come off as if Wenger is untouchable because of his past achievements.
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To be better than Barcelona.
Have a nice fuckin' day.
Have a nice fuckin' day.
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Shits goin down here yo
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Gegilworld93 wrote:Shits goin down here yo
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The Bat-Man wrote:To be better than Barcelona.
Have a nice fuckin' day.
Then he is failing.
As your sig suggests, you think Wenger is untouchable. I'm not asking you to disrespect Wenger. But if an employee fails to meet his expectations, would you keep him around because you are good friends or because he helped you out in the past?
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ahlycotc wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:To be better than Barcelona.
Have a nice fuckin' day.
Then he is failing.
As your sig suggests, you think Wenger is untouchable. I'm not asking you to disrespect Wenger. But if an employee fails to meet his expectations, would you keep him around because you are good friends or because he helped you out in the past?
There is no reason to sack him or force him out. Simple as that. Nothing is wrong.
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ahlycotc wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:To be better than Barcelona.
Have a nice fuckin' day.
Then he is failing.
As your sig suggests, you think Wenger is untouchable. I'm not asking you to disrespect Wenger. But if an employee fails to meet his expectations, would you keep him around because you are good friends or because he helped you out in the past?
Because he is the best candidate to take the club forward, no other manager on this planet can do a better job at Arsenal right now that Wenger.
You don't know the first thing about football, let alone Arsenal. You have some nerve asking for Wenger to get sacked.
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Ahly, it's simple.. to win this debate...
You must kill the Batman.
You must kill the Batman.
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Phadunkin Donuts wrote:ahlycotc wrote:
Then he is failing.
As your sig suggests, you think Wenger is untouchable. I'm not asking you to disrespect Wenger. But if an employee fails to meet his expectations, would you keep him around because you are good friends or because he helped you out in the past?
There is no reason to sack him or force him out. Simple as that. Nothing is wrong.
Are you saying that because it Wenger is untouchable and it would be disrespectful to sack him or is because he is meeting or exceeding expectations?
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Viva Ronaldo 7 wrote:Ahly, it's simple.. to win this debate...
You must kill the Batman.
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ahlycotc wrote:Phadunkin Donuts wrote:
There is no reason to sack him or force him out. Simple as that. Nothing is wrong.
Are you saying that because it Wenger is untouchable and it would be disrespectful to sack him or is because he is meeting or exceeding expectations?
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