Should Wenger Get The Sack?

The Zlatan wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:



How much longer are you willing to put up with 3rd and 4th place finishes in the league? Is simply qualifying for CL and never winning silverware good enough? Doesn't being tipped to drop out of the top 4 in the first place demonstrate to you that Wenger isn't doing enough to improve the squad? That's like me saying "my wife was tipped to die because of all the beatings I was giving her but then I stopped and she survived. Give me a cookie"

Obviously we all want some silverware, but the improvements we are trying to do take time. We haven't got the finances to compete with the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Obviously we all want some silverware, but the improvements we are trying to do take time. We haven't got the finances to compete with the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City.

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

drivescore wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Does that even makes sense? I don't support any English club, so what am I jealous of?

Does that even make sense? Where the fuck did I say you are jealous?

You obviously have some hatred towards Arsenal for some stupid reason and and can't stand watching them do well.

Scott. wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Haters gonna hate. This must be what RR feels like when people attack him for making controversial statements.

It's what I feel like when haters such as yourself attack me for making controversial statements.

The Bat-Man wrote:It's like you guys think Wenger is bad for the club

I'd put up with 3rd when teams like Liverpool and Chelsea bomb out the top four spending twice as much as us, at least we aren't regressing and when you have a league filled with teams that try and financially bully you, that's progress.

We all want to win things but sacking Wenger won't win us anything, honestly I don't know where you people get this delusion that there is someone out there better for Arsenal than Wenger.

And if there is it certainly isn't fucking Mourinho or Guardiola.

Spoiler:

BladeGunner wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Imagine if someone had said in 2004, after it looked like he'd finally surpassed that Manchester United juggernaut, that Arsenal will go 8 years with no legitimate trophies, and by 2012 4th place will be considered a major achievement. It's remarkable how Wenger has dialled down expectations season after season without losing his job.

All Arsenal have to do is rob a couple of wins in a ludicrous amount of injury time, beat Spurs, and go out of the Champions League without being humilated and he's untouchable again. Doesn't matter that they lost 4-0 in the first place, doesn't matter that they're out of the FA Cup, doesn't matter that they're 15 points of top spot, doesn't matter that they are behind Tottenham, you're back in the Top 4 so everything's golden.

Mourinho was right in 2007, Wenger has the best job in the world, build the team you want at one of the biggest clubs in the world, doesn't matter if you win anything, lose Premiership after Premiership after Premiership, get embarrassed in the cups every year, doesn't matter. I miss the days when he and Ferguson would nail Wenger to the wall in the newspapers every week.

BladeGunner wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Do people not read all the words in my posts? Let me repeat it again in simple terms...

Finish below 4th in 2011/12 season = sacking
Finish 4th or above in 2011/12 season = assess him in 2013

So don't tell me finishing 3rd or 4th this season is not bad. Because I'm not asking for his head if accomplishes that this season.



I've tried asking them that question and I haven't got a proper response yet. Either they are too scared to admit that Wenger is untouchable or they actually agree with me but are too embarrassed to say so. I even got some people saying that Arsenal are doing a better job than Bolton with a similar transfer spending.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Obviously we all want some silverware, but the improvements we are trying to do take time. We haven't got the finances to compete with the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City.

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

ahlycotc wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Imagine if someone had said in 2004, after it looked like he'd finally surpassed that Manchester United juggernaut, that Arsenal will go 8 years with no legitimate trophies, and by 2012 4th place will be considered a major achievement. It's remarkable how Wenger has dialled down expectations season after season without losing his job.

All Arsenal have to do is rob a couple of wins in a ludicrous amount of injury time, beat Spurs, and go out of the Champions League without being humilated and he's untouchable again. Doesn't matter that they lost 4-0 in the first place, doesn't matter that they're out of the FA Cup, doesn't matter that they're 15 points of top spot, doesn't matter that they are behind Tottenham, you're back in the Top 4 so everything's golden.

Mourinho was right in 2007, Wenger has the best job in the world, build the team you want at one of the biggest clubs in the world, doesn't matter if you win anything, lose Premiership after Premiership after Premiership, get embarrassed in the cups every year, doesn't matter. I miss the days when he and Ferguson would nail Wenger to the wall in the newspapers every week.

Finally agree with RR on something. And you know we are right when we both agree on something.

ahlycotc wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Imagine if someone had said in 2004, after it looked like he'd finally surpassed that Manchester United juggernaut, that Arsenal will go 8 years with no legitimate trophies, and by 2012 4th place will be considered a major achievement. It's remarkable how Wenger has dialled down expectations season after season without losing his job.

All Arsenal have to do is rob a couple of wins in a ludicrous amount of injury time, beat Spurs, and go out of the Champions League without being humilated and he's untouchable again. Doesn't matter that they lost 4-0 in the first place, doesn't matter that they're out of the FA Cup, doesn't matter that they're 15 points of top spot, doesn't matter that they are behind Tottenham, you're back in the Top 4 so everything's golden.

Mourinho was right in 2007, Wenger has the best job in the world, build the team you want at one of the biggest clubs in the world, doesn't matter if you win anything, lose Premiership after Premiership after Premiership, get embarrassed in the cups every year, doesn't matter. I miss the days when he and Ferguson would nail Wenger to the wall in the newspapers every week.

Finally agree with RR on something. And you know we are right when we both agree on something.

The Bat-Man wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

Says who?

If Wenger could spend £50 million on a player without any financial consequences, you think he'd stop to think otherwise, what the fuck is stopping him, it certainly isn't his fucking money.

ahlycotc wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Imagine if someone had said in 2004, after it looked like he'd finally surpassed that Manchester United juggernaut, that Arsenal will go 8 years with no legitimate trophies, and by 2012 4th place will be considered a major achievement. It's remarkable how Wenger has dialled down expectations season after season without losing his job.

All Arsenal have to do is rob a couple of wins in a ludicrous amount of injury time, beat Spurs, and go out of the Champions League without being humilated and he's untouchable again. Doesn't matter that they lost 4-0 in the first place, doesn't matter that they're out of the FA Cup, doesn't matter that they're 15 points of top spot, doesn't matter that they are behind Tottenham, you're back in the Top 4 so everything's golden.

Mourinho was right in 2007, Wenger has the best job in the world, build the team you want at one of the biggest clubs in the world, doesn't matter if you win anything, lose Premiership after Premiership after Premiership, get embarrassed in the cups every year, doesn't matter. I miss the days when he and Ferguson would nail Wenger to the wall in the newspapers every week.

Finally agree with RR on something. And you know we are right when we both agree on something.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Obviously we all want some silverware, but the improvements we are trying to do take time. We haven't got the finances to compete with the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City.

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

Scott. wrote:I've always felt that if Arsenal sacked Wenger, they'd collapse. Wenger IS Arsenal, and has been the Arsenal manager since I started following football. Arsenal without Wenger just seems ... wrong. Like Man United without Ferguson.

The Zlatan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

Well, you said it yourself as well now, we can't compete financially with them, which means we can't sign high calibre players to take us forward and we have to rely on young players and hope they fulfil their potential. If we can't compete with them financially though, how do we expect to compete with them on the field?

And fuck off with your patronization. Cunt.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Well, you said it yourself as well now, we can't compete financially with them, which means we can't sign high calibre players to take us forward and we have to rely on young players and hope they fulfil their potential. If we can't compete with them financially though, how do we expect to compete with them on the field?

And fuck off with your patronization. Cunt.

You don't need to spend £100M every season to compete with these teams. Just spend £50M on a couple of key improvements and you should be good to go. You might not win the league title, but at least compete for it.

The Zlatan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

You might not be able to compete financially with those teams, but you do have more money to spend than you are actually spending. And it would be nice to spend that money on proven talent. Podolski is a good start. Let's see if that deal goes through and you continue to make such purchases.

Well, you said it yourself as well now, we can't compete financially with them, which means we can't sign high calibre players to take us forward and we have to rely on young players and hope they fulfil their potential. If we can't compete with them financially though, how do we expect to compete with them on the field?

And fuck off with your patronization. Cunt.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Well, you said it yourself as well now, we can't compete financially with them, which means we can't sign high calibre players to take us forward and we have to rely on young players and hope they fulfil their potential. If we can't compete with them financially though, how do we expect to compete with them on the field?

And fuck off with your patronization. Cunt.

You don't need to spend £100M every season to compete with these teams. Just spend £50M on a couple of key improvements and you should be good to go. You might not win the league title, but at least compete for it.

ahlycotc wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Says who?

If Wenger could spend £50 million on a player without any financial consequences, you think he'd stop to think otherwise, what the fuck is stopping him, it certainly isn't his fucking money.

No, it's his inability to get on with the times and change his mentality. If people didn't get on his back for spending, they might not have bought Podolski and went on a few more seasons spending money on unproven young players from the Championship.

menalawyerguy wrote:

The Zlatan wrote:

Well, you said it yourself as well now, we can't compete financially with them, which means we can't sign high calibre players to take us forward and we have to rely on young players and hope they fulfil their potential. If we can't compete with them financially though, how do we expect to compete with them on the field?

And fuck off with your patronization. Cunt.

Where's the patronization exactly? The guy is just giving his opinion, and he's doing so in a fairly straight-forward non-inciteful way.

Jamie wrote:

Fonseca wrote:Yes

Called it a year ago but I'm a troll so it doesn't count

This.

Mason_Inzaghi wrote:One result (even if was a fantastic one) doesn't change the fact that Arsenal have been awful all season.

Phadunkin Donuts wrote:

Phadunkin Donuts wrote:In Wenger We Trust

The Bat-Man wrote:What you mean like Henry, Anelka, Vieira, Farbegas, van Persie, Toure