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Ideally, Wenger retires after winning the quadruple, Guardiola replaces him, brings Fabregas back with him, and Thiago for our troubles.

You'll probably get someone like David Moyes.

ZlatanFabregas wrote:Ideally, Wenger retires after winning the quadruple, Guardiola replaces him, brings Fabregas back with him, and Thiago for our troubles.

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Does anyone else still have 100% faith in Wenger

I don't.

Marvin wrote:You'll probably get someone like David Moyes.

That's probably the likeliest thing to happen.

Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

Montolivo

I do however think Wenger should look at Ninis.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

ZlatanFabregas wrote:Ideally, Wenger retires after winning the quadruple, Guardiola replaces him, brings Fabregas back with him, and Thiago for our troubles.

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Does anyone else still have 100% faith in Wenger

I don't.

What do you mean?
Rosicky rockin' it

I'd love to say I do, but not 100%. He needs to be more ruthless.

Montolivo's just moved hasn't he?

Cadbury wrote:Montolivo's just moved hasn't he?

Not yet, I think either Inter or AC will grab him, why La Viola were looking at Aqua.

And they can keep their mits off him.

I got mixed up with D'Agostino.

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

Squillaci is going to be moved into the hole and allowed to let the creative aspect of his game be unleashed.


Obviously we need a replacement not sure who exactly it'll be someone that can play all along that midfield 3 behind the striker hopefully Mata...doubt it'll happen though


Valbuena was a name mentioned again a couple of days ago,not really a fan of him though

Arise being small does not mean a player is bad so using that to say he would fail is stupid.

I would understand if it was a defender but an attacking midfielder can be any height and excel.

Cadbury wrote:And they can keep their mits off him.

I got mixed up with D'Agostino.

Both fairly good players, and I want to see him stay at Liverpool, Fiorentina would not be a good choice, they will not finish higher than 6-7.

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

He deserves a bit of criticism for what he did to Liverpool and Inter while becoming staggeringly wealthy.

Coatsy wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

Squillaci is going to be moved into the hole and allowed to let the creative aspect of his game be unleashed.


Obviously we need a replacement not sure who exactly it'll be someone that can play all along that midfield 3 behind the striker hopefully Mata...doubt it'll happen though


Valbuena was a name mentioned again a couple of days ago,not really a fan of him though

I wanted us to sign Valbuena ages ago .
He's great, but more of a winger these days. Mata would be good for you.

Ninis, Ninis, Ninis

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

He deserves a bit of criticism for what he did to Liverpool and Inter while becoming staggeringly wealthy.

Won a Champions League with a pretty dim squad, took us to another final beating the likes of Barcelona on the way, moved us to 1st in the UEFA rankings for the first time, and mounted our first serious title challenge for years, doing all of this while having two vile humans sucking the life out of the club?

Inter wasn't the right choice for him. I said it at the time, he didn't suit them at all. He could have achieved greater things had FSG been in charge while he was here.

Leave him alone.

Cadbury wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Out of curiosity, would you repalce Fabregas if you sold him?

RR, leave Rafa alone you mong.

He deserves a bit of criticism for what he did to Liverpool and Inter while becoming staggeringly wealthy.

Won a Champions League with a pretty dim squad, took us to another final beating the likes of Barcelona on the way, moved us to 1st in the UEFA rankings for the first time, and mounted our first serious title challenge for years, doing all of this while having two vile humans sucking the life out of the club?

Inter wasn't the right choice for him. I said it at the time, he didn't suit them at all. He could have achieved greater things had FSG been in charge while he was here.

Leave him alone.

You were never ranked No. 1 in Europe! That was a myth, you were potentially if you did equally to Barcelona and Chelsea in a particular season but Chelsea dumped you out and Barcelona won it so when the seedings came out you were 3rd, perfectly respectable mind, but not No. 1. His European record was impressive though.

I was talking more about dragging you down to 7th place while buying several £18m+ players like Glen Johnson, Alberto Aquilani and Robbie Keane who were all completely shite, trying to sell Alonso to buy Barry, breaking the club transfer record, increasing the wage bill, and tearing the club apart by refusing to form a working relationship with the owners, he did the same with Valencia and Inter. You want to talk about sucking the life out of the club, this fat prick's last action as Liverpool manager was to suck £20m out as a settlement then move to Inter and sign another tremendous contract.

I admit, trying to replace Alonso with Barry was his biggest mistake. Robbie Keane was a Rick Parry signing. I wouldn't call Johnson or Aquilani shite at all, Aquilani's a great player. Johnson's hot and cold but since Clarke's arrived he's looked much better. The problem he faced after the 08/09 season was lack of support in the transfer market from G+H. He couldn't add any quality to the squad or build on what he had, he ahd to use the funds generated by the sales of Alonso, Arbeloa and Dossena to bring in replacements. I can't blame Rafa for being wary of the owners, they went against him on numerous occasions. He had the fans backing (well, msot of it) during his entire regime. That says a lot. The wage bill was inflated during last summer. He wasn't the one who gave Jovanovic, Cole and co. ludacris wages. He built a great squad with peanuts, I can't explain what happened during his final season. We'll never know.

You seem to glorify G+H a lot. I don't understand why you do this. They were clearly a pair of cunts. I'm surprised you don't understand this considering you also have a cunt running your club.

Cadbury wrote:I admit, trying to replace Alonso with Barry was his biggest mistake. Robbie Keane was a Rick Parry signing. I wouldn't call Johnson or Aquilani shite at all, Aquilani's a great player. Johnson's hot and cold but since Clarke's arrived he's looked much better. The problem he faced after the 08/09 season was lack of support in the transfer market from G+H. He couldn't add any quality to the squad or build on what he had, he ahd to use the funds generated by the sales of Alonso, Arbeloa and Dossena to bring in replacements. I can't blame Rafa for being wary of the owners, they went against him on numerous occasions. He had the fans backing (well, msot of it) during his entire regime. That says a lot. The wage bill was inflated during last summer. He wasn't the one who gave Jovanovic, Cole and co. ludacris wages. He built a great squad with peanuts, I can't explain what happened during his final season. We'll never know.

You seem to glorify G+H a lot. I don't understand why you do this. They were clearly a pair of cunts. I'm surprised you don't understand this considering you also have a cunt running your club.

Rick Parry was a scapegoat, look at what Benitez said about Keane, he said their plan was to play Barry on the left and play Keane with Torres. Johnson is a truly dreadful player, average going forward, a liability in defence, plays like he is Danny Alves but he has the talent of Paul Konchesky, Aquilani, while he's not a shite player, he was shit for you, partly because he never played because he was so injury prone.

As for having to sell Dossena, Jesus Christ, that's not a great player to bring up to support your argument is it? Don't forget who bought him for £7m and then never picked him because he's shite, Arbeloa was sold for a very low amount, and I believe the main reason for Alonso leaving was that his relationship with Benitez had broken down, rather than any need for funds. The wage bill was inflated last summer, you're right, under the H&G regime, that shows that they back their manager financially.

I don't glorify Hicks and Gillet, I don't even like them, but I know that when Liverpool fans take someone to be one of their own, or mark someone out as an enemy, it's extremely difficult to change their minds on it, look at Gerrard, he could go out and beat someone up in a night club with no provocation and Liverpool fans would still defend him, Benitez could suck £20m out of the club because of his own greed and Liverpool fans would still claim he loves the club and is a hero because he gave 0.04% of it to a Hillsborough campaign. Benitez made it a case of us against them, 'Us' being Liverpool fans and him, 'them' being the owners, and after that there was no turning back. Any failures were blamed on H&G, or their associates, any successes were down to Rafael Benitez's hard work, and you all trot out the same lines to defend him.

He is a decent manager who struck gold when he couldn't sell Alonso and had a decent record in cup competitions, which extended to Europe, but he screwed Liverpool for every penny he could get and manipulated Liverpool fans to help him do that. I'm sure you'd all take him back as manager if Dalglish decided to walk out on you in the middle of the season again.

I wouldn't want Benitez at Arsenal fuck that.

I certainly would. Under these owners he could achieve great things. I don't know where you're getting £20 million from? And he obviously still loves the club and the city. He doesn't live in Liverpool for no reason, he didn't attened the Hillsborough memorial service and well up when the fans started chanting his name for the banter. He doesn't go to Liverpool's pre-season games weilding a "Kenny Dalglish" scarf because he wants to suck some more money out of the club. I don't think enough of the story was released. Have you read Epic Swindle (Just asking) because that could clear a few things up and make you realise what he had to put up with. The only Liverpool fans who don;t want him back are those who hate him simply because of that poor season.

Chris wrote:I wouldn't want Benitez at Arsenal fuck that.

This.

You would. Fuck you.

One of the best tacticians in the game.

If we ever want to build a relationship with Tony Pulis/Stoke, he might get a call.

Loooooool

Has Tony Pulis won a Champions League with Traore at left-back?

Dunno LOL

Cadbury wrote:I certainly would. Under these owners he could achieve great things. I don't know where you're getting £20 million from? And he obviously still loves the club and the city. He doesn't live in Liverpool for no reason, he didn't attened the Hillsborough memorial service and well up when the fans started chanting his name for the banter. He doesn't go to Liverpool's pre-season games weilding a "Kenny Dalglish" scarf because he wants to suck some more money out of the club. I don't think enough of the story was released. Have you read Epic Swindle (Just asking) because that could clear a few things up and make you realise what he had to put up with. The only Liverpool fans who don;t want him back are those who hate him simply because of that poor season.

£20m was the value of the remaining years of his contract, given that he was fired I believe that's what was paid to get rid of him. Looking into it other sources say £16m. There's no proof of this so I could be wrong, it has happened before.

What you've mentioned there, that sounds like a good method of ingratiating himself with Liverpool fans so he can take the job again in future as a sort of returning Messiah figure, because no other top club will touch him with a barge pole after his last season and a half in management, and Dalglish isn't going to be around forever. Along with everyone else connected with your club, he tried to destroy the Liverpool equivalent of Hitler, Roy Hodgson, by returning to Merseyside when he was already under significant pressure and when Benitez was out of work.

I haven't read Epic Swindle, I know they say you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but you look at the cover of that book, the Liverpool FC chicken in a noose, you know what you're getting from that, and fair and balanced ain't that. You can prove anything if you're writing a book, you take the facts, you apply distortion, deletion and generalisation to enhance them to support your point and you get proof of whatever you like. People do this in real life of course, subconsciously, I don't doubt that most Liverpool fans, most people who write books about it, they genuinely believe that Hicks and Gillet are evil people, but people who are the most emotionally involved with a Football club, or anything for that matter, are rarely, if ever, the best people to make a balanced judgement on it, or a fair analysis.

Speaking of epic swindles by the way, I have never heard of any business being sold to other owners by the High Court, without the consent of the present owners. I haven't read the case, but it does seem extraordinary that that should happen.