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Liverpool FC Official Thread
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Kenny Dalglish: Liverpool's king goes in search of another crown
The Scot will take on Mr. Ferguson using the same principles that made his 1980s team such an irresistible force
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/08/kenny-dalglish-liverpool-king-crown?CMP=twt_gu
Devid Lacey, The Guardian
The Premier League could do with a new plot or at least the revival of an old favourite. Another contest between a Manchester United team in transition and a Chelsea side past their prime would be even less compelling than it was last time. There could never be a better moment for a Liverpool revival and with Kenny Dalglish back in charge at Anfield this may be about to happen.
André Villas-Boas, Chelsea's latest man for two seasons, will doubtless capture the immediate attention as a manager who may mount the sort of challenge to Mr. Ferguson and United that José Mourinho achieved during his time at Stamford Bridge. But it is the idea of Dalglish and Ferguson renewing their old rivalry which offers more intriguing possibilities.
Dalglish has turned 60 and Ferguson is approaching 70 yet it is hard to believe that the sparks and thunderclaps which have accompanied this Glaswegian relationship over the years will ever mellow with advancing age. In fact a serious threat from Liverpool this season and the possibility of them quickly equalling Manchester United's newly achieved record of 19 league titles would probably make Mr Alex Ferguson feel several years younger.
While Liverpool, who have not won a championship since 1990, will have to put on seven-league boots if they are to put themselves on a par with United over the course of a single season, the return of Dalglish as manager in January, followed by his signing of a three-year contract in May, has already reawakened a revivalist fervour not experienced at Anfield since Bill Shankly arrived from Huddersfield in 1959 to begin the task of restoring the team to the First Division.
Dalglish came to represent what Liverpool in their great days were all about, first as a player under Bob Paisley and later as manager in his own right. Under Shankly, Paisley, Joe Fagan briefly and Dalglish, Liverpool's football became the culmination of the team ethic. Accurate passing and imaginative, selfless movement at the heart of their game. When the young Emlyn Hughes arrived from Blackpool in 1967 he was not allowed to train with the first team until he stopped giving the ball away.
John Smith, Liverpool's chairman when the team were accumulating championships, cups and European honours on a regular basis, once declared that Dalglish was "the best player this club has signed this century", which was probably not an overstatement. While Liverpool broke the British transfer record when they paid Celtic £440,000 for Dalglish in August 1977 the sum still seemed to undervalue the 26-year-old replacement for Kevin Keegan, who had left Anfield for Hamburg, and may have hastened the departure of a disillusioned Jock Stein from Parkhead.
Dalglish's extraordinary qualities, not only as a creator and scorer of goals but with his ability to control the pulse of a performance, were fundamental to the team winning five league titles, three European Cups and four League Cups. In his six years as player-manager and manager he added three championships and two FA Cups.
The team of 1987-88 represented the apex of Dalglish's first spell in charge at Anfield. Enriched by the perfectly blended talents of Peter Beardsley, John Barnes, Ray Houghton, John Aldridge, Steve McMahon, Ronnie Whelan and Alan Hansen, Liverpool swept to their 17th title with football of a pace and quality which left most of their opponents gasping for air. Among the Anfield crowd watching Liverpool thrash Brian Clough's Nottingham Forest 5-0 was Tom Finney who came away saying that he never thought he would see an English team play football of that standard at such speed. And as a winger for Preston North End and England, Finney had never been one to hang about.
The following season brought the Hillsborough disaster with the loss of 96 lives, a tragedy which left Dalglish so traumatised that he suddenly resigned on health grounds in 1991, although his management credentials were reconfirmed when he won the Premier League with Blackburn. Yet Liverpool FC have always been closest to his thoughts and his feeling for the club and its supporters was aptly summed up when he observed that "the people who come to watch us play, who love the team and regard it as part of their lives, would never appreciate Liverpool having a huge balance in the bank. They want every asset we possess to be wearing a red shirt, and that's what I want too."
Since returning to Anfield, following the end of Roy Hodgson's short-lived reign, Dalglish has been as good as those words. He wasted no time during the January transfer window signing a striker, Andy Carroll, from Newcastle for £35m and Luis Suárez, a Uruguayan artist, from Ajax for £22.8m, deals made possible by the departure of the forlorn Fernando Torres to Chelsea for £50m.
Some of the names have become more exotic and the players' fees and wages have soared beyond the stratosphere but little will have changed in the way Dalglish wants Liverpool to play. True the bench can no longer bark "step up, step up" to defenders on the safe assumption that opponents straying into offside positions will immediately be flagged by a linesman. And the use of the goalkeeper as a quarterback, picking the ball up from team-mates and instigating attacks with the sort of accurate throws which were Ray Clemence's speciality, has gone out of fashion with the restriction on back passes.
Yet when the summer transfer activity has Liverpool signing a quick, penetrative winger like Aston Villa's Stewart Downing and a studious Scottish creative player of the old school such as Blackpool's Charlie Adam, it would seem that Dalglish is seeking to rebuild the team along familiar lines. The best sides at Anfield have usually employed a quick, skilful wide man as an outlet – Billy Liddell, Peter Thompson, Steve Heighway and Barnes spring to mind – and Graeme Souness, whose pass set up Dalglish for the winning goal when Liverpool beat FC Bruges at Wembley in 1978 to retain the European Cup, was the epitome of the Scottish craftsman.
It would help if Dalglish could now find another Kenny Dalglish, but that is about as likely as Manchester United unearthing another Alex Ferguson.
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mauro=beast wrote:samba football under dalglish
Well it used to be when he was Manager years ago, and especially his team of 1987,88 and beyond, they played some amazing football and in 87,88 they went through their first 29 League games unbeaten, and only losing two games all season in 40 League games. But im not saying that is going to happen this time, before you come out with more rubbish.
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Raul Meireles
Liverpool have rejected Udinese's 11 Million bid for Raul Meireles. The club was given till Tuesday to respond to the offer. With Damien Commoli says "We can't think of losing Raul Meireles"
From his facebook. Don't know if it is legit, looks like it though
Liverpool have rejected Udinese's 11 Million bid for Raul Meireles. The club was given till Tuesday to respond to the offer. With Damien Commoli says "We can't think of losing Raul Meireles"
From his facebook. Don't know if it is legit, looks like it though
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Nice to know we want to keep him.
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Link to his Facebook?
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Got this on Video, on my video it shows the entire game when Liverpool beat Nottingham Forest 5 nil in the 1987,88 season, Classic season.
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"Mr. Ferguson"? I think you must mean Sir Alex.
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OllieHoltMirror Oliver Holt
Liverpool interest in Dann not at bid stage but moving forward. Would cost in region of £12m.
Liverpool interest in Dann not at bid stage but moving forward. Would cost in region of £12m.
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Got this on Video aswell Liverpool's Greatest Team, Maybe would have changed now, but its a good video showing the great Liverpool players of old.
The Great Ian Rush and his hat trick against Everton, and what about big Molby's pass on 2.37
7.35 Wee Sammy Lee getting put in the luggage department on the plane. And 13.16 Souness with a cracking volley, And then the KING himself
And more of the KING and the other greats.
The Great Ian Rush and his hat trick against Everton, and what about big Molby's pass on 2.37
7.35 Wee Sammy Lee getting put in the luggage department on the plane. And 13.16 Souness with a cracking volley, And then the KING himself
And more of the KING and the other greats.
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Arsenal buying Chamberlain.
On the good side, that means they are not likely to buy Mata, too.
On the good side, that means they are not likely to buy Mata, too.
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Don't get all the Dann hate if I'm honest, seems like a solid, reliable defender.
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12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
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Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
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Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
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Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
Hummels or Subotic would cost £20mill+ and they have no reason to leave because Dortmund are the Bundesliga champions.
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Sahin had a buy-out clauseBogdan wrote:Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
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Bogdan wrote:Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
At least do your research before you post.
Sahin cost £9 Mill. He cost that much because of his buyout clause.
Hummels and Subotic don't have that, so they'll go for a lot more.
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Every goal for and against Liverpool from the 1989,90 League season the last time we won the title.
Was at the first game on this Liverpool 4 Chelsea 1 and remember seeing the memorial for the first time R.I.P the 96, stood in the old Kop the following week Liverpool won the title.
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Ok then still, I don't see the defense going for 20+ million, I could see 13-15 million.arsenalap11 wrote:Bogdan wrote:Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
At least do your research before you post.
Sahin cost £10 Mill. He cost that much because of his buyout clause.
Hummels and Subotic don't have that, so they'll go for a lot more.
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Never againLiverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
Every goal for and against Liverpool from 1989,90 season the last time we won the title.
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Bogdan wrote:Ok then still, I don't see the defense going for 20+ million, I could see 13-15 million.arsenalap11 wrote:Bogdan wrote:Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
At least do your research before you post.
Sahin cost £10 Mill. He cost that much because of his buyout clause.
Hummels and Subotic don't have that, so they'll go for a lot more.
In this market? £15 Mill for Subotic if you're lucky, but probably more. Hummels, £20 Mill or more if he repeats the season he just had.
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Bogdan wrote:Ok then still, I don't see the defense going for 20+ million, I could see 13-15 million.arsenalap11 wrote:Bogdan wrote:Sahin cost 6 million and was regarded as one of their most integral players, why would their defense cost 4 times that?arsenalap11 wrote:Mustangt125 wrote:12 mill for Dann we should be looking at the Dortmund guys
They'd cost double that
At least do your research before you post.
Sahin cost £10 Mill. He cost that much because of his buyout clause.
Hummels and Subotic don't have that, so they'll go for a lot more.
Because they're both young and they're 2 of the best defenders in Europe. You might be able to get Subotic for £15-20mill but you would have to pay a lot more for Hummels. Also like I said before they have no reason to leave because they play for the best team in Germany and currently playing champions league football.
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Never againLiverpool fc 4 ever wrote:
Every goal for and against Liverpool from 1989,90 season the last time we won the title.
No fillipo, they even do the season reviews on DVD now.
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I haven't seen enough of Dann to judge. Cahill would be my first choice if we insist on a "premiership proven" defender tbh.
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I've seen enough. He's not that much of an improvement on Carragher. If he was going for £5 million then fair enough. But £12 million is silly.
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Who's saying £12M for Dann? It was £8M the last I heard.
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Says it somewhere up there.