Do people honestly feel bad when rival players get injured?

SBSP wrote:

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I enjoy every moment when Liverpool players suffer injuries.

17,000 posts and about 16,000 of them, all about Liverpool or there players.

37 years old, and he can't tell the difference between points and posts. He's only made 5k or so posts, mate.

SBSP wrote:

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I enjoy every moment when Liverpool players suffer injuries.

17,000 posts and about 16,000 of them, all about Liverpool or there players.

37 years old, and he can't tell the difference between points and posts. He's only made 5k or so posts, mate.

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I enjoy every moment when Liverpool players suffer injuries.

17,000 posts and about 16,000 of them, all about Liverpool or there players.

37 years old, and he can't tell the difference between points and posts. He's only made 5k or so posts, mate.

Oops sorry, must be my old age as he goes off to change it, That will be 5000 posts then and 4999 about Liverpool.

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

fluffy_kittens wrote:

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

agree to your post without the Man U hate. If we were playing Arsenal and RVP, Fabregas, Walcott, Wilshere, etc. were all injured and they were playing backups, the game itself wouldn't have been as fun and even though I would obviously be happy if we beat them it wouldn't be the same as beating their full strength first string side so there were no excuses from fans and media.

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

Well there is that, but if your rivals suffer a load of injuries then you can be more successful. Like when Chelsea won the League in 2009/10 because United had a horrific injury crisis in defence. If Liverpool's immediate rivals like Tottenham and Man City had suffered a load of injuries, you might have got into the Europa League this season, it might be a belittled achievement, but it's better than achieving nothing. Similarly, in 2008/09 you might have won the Premier League if we'd had more injuries, a belittled achievement it may be, but belittled achievements are better than achieving nothing 5 years on the spin.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

Well there is that, but if your rivals suffer a load of injuries then you can be more successful. Like when Chelsea won the League in 2009/10 because United had a horrific injury crisis in defence. If Liverpool's immediate rivals like Tottenham and Man City had suffered a load of injuries, you might have got into the Europa League this season, it might be a belittled achievement, but it's better than achieving nothing. Similarly, in 2008/09 you might have won the Premier League if we'd had more injuries, a belittled achievement it may be, but belittled achievements are better than achieving nothing 5 years on the spin.

Relying on injuries for success is not the way to go and is an unstable and dangerous strategy to rely on. I can assure you that it is very risky. There might be some years where rival teams don't have massive injuries (such as 2009/10, 2005/06, 2004/05, 2003/04 to name just a few) and Man United won't have much success.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

Well there is that, but if your rivals suffer a load of injuries then you can be more successful. Like when Chelsea won the League in 2009/10 because United had a horrific injury crisis in defence. If Liverpool's immediate rivals like Tottenham and Man City had suffered a load of injuries, you might have got into the Europa League this season, it might be a belittled achievement, but it's better than achieving nothing. Similarly, in 2008/09 you might have won the Premier League if we'd had more injuries, a belittled achievement it may be, but belittled achievements are better than achieving nothing 5 years on the spin.

Relying on injuries for success is not the way to go and is an unstable and dangerous strategy to rely on. I can assure you that it is very risky. There might be some years where rival teams don't have massive injuries (such as 2009/10, 2005/06, 2004/05, 2003/04 to name just a few) and Man United won't have much success.

Of course relying on injuries is a stupid strategy, Liverpool have proven that for the last 21 consecutive seasons, your main strategy has to be to construct the strongest squad in the country. If you have a strong squad, your chances can be greatly enhanced by title rivals suffering injuries, equally it can be harmed by your own club suffering injuries.

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:I do. Because a rival player getting injured means your achievement isn't as good then if your rival sides had their best players fit for a large amount of time. That is why Manchester United's recent achievements aren't actually that special, seeing as their rivals have had some horrific injuries. For example, Liverpool and Arsenal suffered bad injuries last season, Tottenham had some key players out and Chelsea had some bad injuries as well. Had it not been for these injuries, Man United would not have won the title, which if I was a Man United fan, it would belittle the title achievement of last season and recent years.

Well there is that, but if your rivals suffer a load of injuries then you can be more successful. Like when Chelsea won the League in 2009/10 because United had a horrific injury crisis in defence. If Liverpool's immediate rivals like Tottenham and Man City had suffered a load of injuries, you might have got into the Europa League this season, it might be a belittled achievement, but it's better than achieving nothing. Similarly, in 2008/09 you might have won the Premier League if we'd had more injuries, a belittled achievement it may be, but belittled achievements are better than achieving nothing 5 years on the spin.

Relying on injuries for success is not the way to go and is an unstable and dangerous strategy to rely on. I can assure you that it is very risky. There might be some years where rival teams don't have massive injuries (such as 2009/10, 2005/06, 2004/05, 2003/04 to name just a few) and Man United won't have much success.

Of course relying on injuries is a stupid strategy, Liverpool have proven that for the last 21 consecutive seasons, your main strategy has to be to construct the strongest squad in the country. If you have a strong squad, your chances can be greatly enhanced by title rivals suffering injuries, equally it can be harmed by your own club suffering injuries.

Liverpool haven't relied on injuries. There are many factors as to why Liverpool haven't won a title in 21 years, but an injury reliance strategy is not one of them.

However, we weren't talking about Liverpool, it was about Man United and their obsession with rival players injuries, wishing them in the hope there will be lots so they can have an easier time. Changing the subject is hiding from the truth.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Well there is that, but if your rivals suffer a load of injuries then you can be more successful. Like when Chelsea won the League in 2009/10 because United had a horrific injury crisis in defence. If Liverpool's immediate rivals like Tottenham and Man City had suffered a load of injuries, you might have got into the Europa League this season, it might be a belittled achievement, but it's better than achieving nothing. Similarly, in 2008/09 you might have won the Premier League if we'd had more injuries, a belittled achievement it may be, but belittled achievements are better than achieving nothing 5 years on the spin.

Relying on injuries for success is not the way to go and is an unstable and dangerous strategy to rely on. I can assure you that it is very risky. There might be some years where rival teams don't have massive injuries (such as 2009/10, 2005/06, 2004/05, 2003/04 to name just a few) and Man United won't have much success.

Of course relying on injuries is a stupid strategy, Liverpool have proven that for the last 21 consecutive seasons, your main strategy has to be to construct the strongest squad in the country. If you have a strong squad, your chances can be greatly enhanced by title rivals suffering injuries, equally it can be harmed by your own club suffering injuries.

Liverpool haven't relied on injuries. There are many factors as to why Liverpool haven't won a title in 21 years, but an injury reliance strategy is not one of them.

However, we weren't talking about Liverpool, it was about Man United and their obsession with rival players injuries, wishing them in the hope there will be lots so they can have an easier time. Changing the subject is hiding from the truth.

It is true that the only way Liverpool could have won the title would be in the event of injury crises massacring the teams immediately above them.

I suggest you go and read the last line of the original post in this thread.

fluffy_kittens wrote:I care when Arsenal players get hurt. When Ramsey got massacred that one season I felt bad. When RVP gets hurt I wish he would get better because I'd rather beat the full strength Arsenal side then a side with backups for rivalry sake.

The Bat-Man wrote:I wouldn't wish an injury on anyone, it's not a nice thing to happen to a player and even if it's a rival club I don't want their players to get hurt, they are still human.

Unless it's Benayoun, I would laugh if he got hit by a bus.

El_indian wrote:I really depends, but put it this way, I would prefer to beat a full strength united rather than one where their fans can make excuses, 'we didn't have so and so' etc etc

when it's something like a term term injury which could ruin a career than yeah. I don't give it much thought though - It would be like 'oh bad luck', then just move on

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

El_indian wrote:I really depends, but put it this way, I would prefer to beat a full strength united rather than one where their fans can make excuses, 'we didn't have so and so' etc etc

when it's something like a term term injury which could ruin a career than yeah. I don't give it much thought though - It would be like 'oh bad luck', then just move on

A full strength United side would beat you though. When we lost to you with most of our defence injured/suspended were you thinking 'Oh no United have excuses they can make' or were you thinking 'We beat United 3-1! Woo!'

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

El_indian wrote:I really depends, but put it this way, I would prefer to beat a full strength united rather than one where their fans can make excuses, 'we didn't have so and so' etc etc

when it's something like a term term injury which could ruin a career than yeah. I don't give it much thought though - It would be like 'oh bad luck', then just move on

A full strength United side would beat you though. When we lost to you with most of our defence injured/suspended were you thinking 'Oh no United have excuses they can make' or were you thinking 'We beat United 3-1! Woo!'

SpiritOfShankly wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

El_indian wrote:I really depends, but put it this way, I would prefer to beat a full strength united rather than one where their fans can make excuses, 'we didn't have so and so' etc etc

when it's something like a term term injury which could ruin a career than yeah. I don't give it much thought though - It would be like 'oh bad luck', then just move on

A full strength United side would beat you though. When we lost to you with most of our defence injured/suspended were you thinking 'Oh no United have excuses they can make' or were you thinking 'We beat United 3-1! Woo!'

beat you plenty of times when you've been full strength and beaten you when we havent been full strength.