Casey Anthony Trial

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

SBSP wrote:Not if they killed someone. It's not cruel nor unusual punishment to kill a murderer.

Who are you to define that?

It's cruel and unusual regardless, unless you are a barbarian.

There's a reason why so many civilized nations have abolished the death penalty...


Wait, I thought you hated the US?

The people. Which is why we have certain states allow the death penalty. Who are you to define execution as cruel punishment?

How can you honestly say depriving someone of their life, considering there is "legally" nothing afterwards, as the state and church are separate?

What does this have to do with religion?

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

Who are you to define that?

It's cruel and unusual regardless, unless you are a barbarian.

There's a reason why so many civilized nations have abolished the death penalty...


Wait, I thought you hated the US?

The people. Which is why we have certain states allow the death penalty. Who are you to define execution as cruel punishment?

How can you honestly say depriving someone of their life, considering there is "legally" nothing afterwards, as the state and church are separate?

What does this have to do with religion?

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

No. In fact the opposite is true, because not only would a person be punished on Earth, but in the afterlife as well.

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

The people. Which is why we have certain states allow the death penalty. Who are you to define execution as cruel punishment?

How can you honestly say depriving someone of their life, considering there is "legally" nothing afterwards, as the state and church are separate?

What does this have to do with religion?

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

No. In fact the opposite is true, because not only would a person be punished on Earth, but in the afterlife as well.

Exactly, either way, the punishment is more cruel and unusual.

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

How can you honestly say depriving someone of their life, considering there is "legally" nothing afterwards, as the state and church are separate?

What does this have to do with religion?

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

No. In fact the opposite is true, because not only would a person be punished on Earth, but in the afterlife as well.

Exactly, either way, the punishment is more cruel and unusual.

It depends on what religious view you are taking. In Islam, if someone commits murder and asks God for forgiveness and still receives the death penalty, they get their punishment only on Earth, not in the afterlife.

But this isn't about religion. If we leave religion out of this, it makes even more sense to have capital punishment.

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

What does this have to do with religion?

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

No. In fact the opposite is true, because not only would a person be punished on Earth, but in the afterlife as well.

Exactly, either way, the punishment is more cruel and unusual.

It depends on what religious view you are taking. In Islam, if someone commits murder and asks God for forgiveness and still receives the death penalty, they get their punishment only on Earth, not in the afterlife.

But this isn't about religion. If we leave religion out of this, it makes even more sense to have capital punishment.

Why exactly?

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

Nothing, the point is, if there is nothing after death, then death would be the most cruel and unusual of all punishments, don't you agree?

No. In fact the opposite is true, because not only would a person be punished on Earth, but in the afterlife as well.

Exactly, either way, the punishment is more cruel and unusual.

It depends on what religious view you are taking. In Islam, if someone commits murder and asks God for forgiveness and still receives the death penalty, they get their punishment only on Earth, not in the afterlife.

But this isn't about religion. If we leave religion out of this, it makes even more sense to have capital punishment.

Why exactly?

Because if we assume there is no afterlife, a person has only their time on Earth to receive punishment. If he or she doesn't receive the proper punishment on Earth, then they will never get the proper punishment.

I'll take it even further, I find a life sentence to be more cruel than the death sentence. Imagine being stuck in a cell for life? You can't do anything and you aren't helping society in anyway. In fact, you are bringing it down. If you are going to be a waste for yourself and society, you might as well be executed. It would save society money that would have been spent on keeping you alive in jail for your whole life.

http://www.the-playmaker.com/t7182-do-you-believe-in-capital-punishment

America's justice system is shit. always has been. The land where the innocent get locked up and the guilty freed.

This is where this man comes in...

Rolo, does locking someone up all their life make us better?

Not really, what makes us better is that we're innocent, and the murderer isn't. Is killing someone a crime? Not always, but murder is. Killing someone who is innocent, and someone who is guilty is a completely different thing.

Many people have different perspectives of what is innocent, what is guilty etc.....but in the end it's down to society.

I would rather just finish her with a bullet, save all the tax payers money and get on with life.

These days, you can't afford to take the moral high ground when it's making everyone's lives worse. Do I want public improvements, or a HD TV and all other kinds of shit being spent on prisoners?

But generally, I don't see how locking someone up is the moral high ground. If you want to be moral, then forgive them......but tbh that's just stupid.

I agree with Rolo. The death penalty is an easy way out for crimes you've committed. You might die, but it's over in an instance. Whereas a life sentence in jail is much tougher punishment. Being a child killer she'll receive threats from prison inmates everyday, lose all sense of freedom she'd have in life by being confined to one small room for the majority of the day, lose all contact with family and friends more than likely and much more.

My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Prison officers always maintain this as bullshit.

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Especially if their cellmate is a 6'5, 275 lb black guy named Bubba

American Jails look worse than English imo

Everyone turns into a Legal expert when there's an indictment.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Especially if their cellmate is a 6'5, 275 lb black guy named Bubba

Sounds good to me.

Rolo what about the Army they kill others, should America disband their armed forces?

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

I am serious. He's allowed out on visits every three months too.

I knew this would happen once the trial was held in Florida. Fucking disgrace, hope Dexter gets her.

dena wrote:I knew this would happen once the trial was held in Florida. Fucking disgrace, hope Dexter gets her.

We think alike, babes.

Mal wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

I am serious. He's allowed out on visits every three months too.

So you're telling me I pay taxes so the scumbags can get free ps3's and stuff ?

Fucking England

Mal wrote:

dena wrote:I knew this would happen once the trial was held in Florida. Fucking disgrace, hope Dexter gets her.

We think alike, babes.

Great minds

@Grenade - He received it as a gift if that makes you feel better.

Our legal system has always been shite. But even I think we'd have sent this bitch down.


I hope she's like that Maxine Carr woman, and can't live anywhere for long enough because people keep hounding her out of their villages. They'd probably change her identity or something though, like they did with Carr..

As long as legal systems are run by human beings, mistakes will be made.

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

I am serious. He's allowed out on visits every three months too.

So you're telling me I pay taxes so the scumbags can get free ps3's and stuff ?

Fucking England

They don't get it for free.

they get paid some shit amount of allowance a week, and with that money they pay to get TV, PS£'s ect ... . I think they rent them per week. not 100% sure.

And if they misbehavior, or cause shit, they get them took off them.

Mr Leiva wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:My friends dad is in prison for manslaughter and he has a PS3, 26 inch LCD TV and freeview in his cell. So dying isn't the easy option. A lot of prisoners get it good in prison after a while.

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

I am serious. He's allowed out on visits every three months too.

So you're telling me I pay taxes so the scumbags can get free ps3's and stuff ?

Fucking England

They don't get it for free.

they get paid some shit amount of allowance a week, and with that money they pay to get TV, PS£'s ect ... . I think they rent them per week. not 100% sure.

And if they misbehavior, or cause shit, they get them took off them.

They also live rent free, with free food and unlimited time to roll around, play pool/football/basketball whatever.

I don't even have a PS3. I can't even afford Live at the moment..

Dan wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Mal wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

Please tell me you're not serious ?
Please?

I am serious. He's allowed out on visits every three months too.

So you're telling me I pay taxes so the scumbags can get free ps3's and stuff ?

Fucking England

They don't get it for free.

they get paid some shit amount of allowance a week, and with that money they pay to get TV, PS£'s ect ... . I think they rent them per week. not 100% sure.

And if they misbehavior, or cause shit, they get them took off them.

They also live rent free, with free food and unlimited time to roll around, play pool/football/basketball whatever.

I don't even have a PS3. I can't even afford Live at the moment..

Video tape yourself buggering some sheep and send it to the authorities. You'll be living the high life in no time.