UEFA U21 Championships 2011

Fine Shagger wrote:

Lux wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:England's youth are so bad

But drew with Spain

Still a shit set of players though. You have to be worried about the state of English football surely?

Not particularly.

We're doing well at all youth levels.....half the nations aren't even getting to the tournaments at all.

I'm not worried.....we've come to expect that we're not Spain....but we're improving so that's better than nothing.

One game against Ukraine and English football is shit......typical overreaction.

Too many people are expecting instant change.

Like Lux said, England are improving. It's only a matter of time.

Lux wrote:
One game against Ukraine and English football is shit......typical overreaction.

Actually this has been going on for a while judging by some of the tweets by some English journo's. Pearce is going to get a hammering. Seems like he hasn't made any real positive contribution in his 4 year tenure.

GCU wrote:

Lux wrote:
One game against Ukraine and English football is shit......typical overreaction.

Actually this has been going on for a while judging by some of the tweets by some English journo's. Pearce is going to get a hammering. Seems like he hasn't made any real positive contribution in his 4 year tenure.

Honestly, it's hard to take you seriously when the only time I see you post it's anti English.

I did some research and I found out where the McEachran lad is, he's holidaying with Wilshere and some other players. Go figure

Lux wrote:

GCU wrote:

Lux wrote:
One game against Ukraine and English football is shit......typical overreaction.

Actually this has been going on for a while judging by some of the tweets by some English journo's. Pearce is going to get a hammering. Seems like he hasn't made any real positive contribution in his 4 year tenure.

Honestly, it's hard to take you seriously when the only time I see you post it's anti English.

I was expecting something a bit better than that but guess that's just your way of saying "Oh shit, you're right"

Marvin wrote:Too many people are expecting instant change.

Like Lux said, England are improving. It's only a matter of time.

Untill then we're gonna have a load of Spanish twats like Jamie taking the piss out of us.

JMB_94 wrote:

Marvin wrote:Too many people are expecting instant change.

Like Lux said, England are improving. It's only a matter of time.

Untill then we're gonna have a load of Spanish twats like Jamie taking the piss out of us.

I'm not taking the piss. I'm concerned.

Welbeck's one on one.

To be honest the midfield is just so fucking shit, Mancienne is a shitehouse that should just fuck off, and Rodwell has been useless for ages.

I'm not. This is just one bunch of lads. The under-19's and below are much more promising.


Pearce is tactically inept, always has been.

Fine Shagger wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:

Marvin wrote:Too many people are expecting instant change.

Like Lux said, England are improving. It's only a matter of time.

Untill then we're gonna have a load of Spanish twats like Jamie taking the piss out of us.

I'm not taking the piss. I'm concerned.

Positive way of looking at it is, Carroll, Wilshere, Rooney, Walcott.. not saying they're all the best players but they're young and are going to be in the future, it's not like this is actually our future team.

Drop Welbeck... Move Sturridge to the middle and play Albrighton and Sinclair on the wings. Pretty obvious...

Muamba in for Mancienne.
Lansbury and Henderson the other 2 in the middle.

Simples.

I think our defence has been good over the two games, better v Spain though.

The Miz wrote:Drop Welbeck... Move Sturridge to the middle and play Albrighton and Sinclair on the wings. Pretty obvious...

Muamba in for Mancienne.
Lansbury and Henderson the other 2 in the middle.

Simples.

Would be a much better team.

Should do that, far more technical side.

It's the people in charge i'm more worried about. How the fuck are people like Pearce even being hired for jobs?

To be fair, I don't think we should be too worried. I think we have quite a few good youngsters, but I think what's concerning is we don't have any good keepers bar Hart, and we also are stuck with a proper DM.

I thought Rodwell was the one to finally do it, but he seems to have stalled, hopefully he picks up. Muamba isn't great, Mancienne is shit there, and Cattermole is useless.

If only Frimpong picked England

What was Pearces job before u21s? Man City? Did shit there.

Fine Shagger wrote:It's the people in charge i'm more worried about. How the fuck are people like Pearce even being hired for jobs?

He's got the passion and the boys want to play for him..

Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

The back four looks pretty solid though, it's great that Smalling and Jones are both at Man United now, they could form a very good defensive partnership.

JMB_94 wrote:Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

The back four looks pretty solid though, it's great that Smalling and Jones are both at Man United now, they could form a very good defensive partnership.

Yeah, I said that the other day. Hope Fergie uses that partnership in the lesser games. Would hate to see them rotated alongside Vidic or Ferdinand. Be better if they played together.

JMB_94 wrote:Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

He hasn't been good but was very good for Sunderland, don't see him as good enough for us though (England and United).

The Miz wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

The back four looks pretty solid though, it's great that Smalling and Jones are both at Man United now, they could form a very good defensive partnership.

Yeah, I said that the other day. Hope Fergie uses that partnership in the lesser games. Would hate to see them rotated alongside Vidic or Ferdinand. Be better if they played together.

Ferdinand will be rested in a lot of games because he's so important to us, so I can see Jones and Smalling getting time in the Carling Cup and even the Champions League group stage, Vidic will be present in some though.

He's very average, can't see him breaking into the senior squad or United's first team.

JMB_94 wrote:He's very average, can't see him breaking into the senior squad or United's first team.

Nah he's not average.

He's got a shite touch that's for sure.

kyro7 wrote:

The Miz wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

The back four looks pretty solid though, it's great that Smalling and Jones are both at Man United now, they could form a very good defensive partnership.

Yeah, I said that the other day. Hope Fergie uses that partnership in the lesser games. Would hate to see them rotated alongside Vidic or Ferdinand. Be better if they played together.

Ferdinand will be rested in a lot of games because he's so important to us, so I can see Jones and Smalling getting time in the Carling Cup and even the Champions League group stage, Vidic will be present in some though.

Yeah pointless for England if they play alongside Vidic. I'd like to see Fergie remove Vidic and Ferdinand and give the other 2 a go in like 10 league games a season.

Not seeing much difference between Denilson and Henderson right now...

Fonseca wrote:Not seeing much difference between Denilson and Henderson right now...

Henderson plays on the right for a start..

The Miz wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

The Miz wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:Welbeck is a donkey tbh. Not been impressed at all.

The back four looks pretty solid though, it's great that Smalling and Jones are both at Man United now, they could form a very good defensive partnership.

Yeah, I said that the other day. Hope Fergie uses that partnership in the lesser games. Would hate to see them rotated alongside Vidic or Ferdinand. Be better if they played together.

Ferdinand will be rested in a lot of games because he's so important to us, so I can see Jones and Smalling getting time in the Carling Cup and even the Champions League group stage, Vidic will be present in some though.

Yeah pointless for England if they play alongside Vidic. I'd like to see Fergie remove Vidic and Ferdinand and give the other 2 a go in like 10 league games a season.

Would be good if they became a solid partnership for us and England.

Fonseca wrote:Not seeing much difference between Denilson and Henderson right now...

Denilson can shoot