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    English people don't play outside england.

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:48 am

    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral

    2 years, and if Gerrard would onyl get into the team when Zidane had retired, then surely it should be 2006-08 When you consider that they signed van der Vaart in 2007, it should actually just be 2006-7.
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    Post by El Jefe Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:48 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral

    2 years, and if Gerrard would onyl get into the team when Zidane had retired, then surely it should be 2006-08 When you consider that they signed van der Vaart in 2007, it should actually just be 2006-7.
    Chances are they wouldn't have gone for VdV if they had Gerrard.
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    Post by Dean Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:50 am

    Blah blah blah... you're totally right Rooney, Real Madrid wanted Gerrard for years, they were after him so bad because they wanted him to be a substitute and warm the bench. Hurr Durr Derp Derp
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:51 am

    I like the bit where he said Khedira's better than Gerrard.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 am

    In central midfield he is, and I don't believe Real Madrid have been after Gerrard for all these years.
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    Post by ricky//habana Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 am

    Danny wrote:
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    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral
    Or 2..
    04-08 is a 4 year period btw

    back to the topic, it's probably because the foreign leagues don't value physical prowess as much as technical or mental ability, for which english players are noted by their relative absence.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:53 am

    04-08 is a 5 year period.
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    Post by fluffy_kittens Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:54 am

    You guys are forgetting the two best English players to every play abroad. Matt Derbyshire and Jermaine Pennant English people don't play outside england. - Page 5 225495
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:54 am

    ricky//habana wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral
    Or 2..
    04-08 is a 4 year period btw

    back to the topic, it's probably because the foreign leagues don't value physical prowess as much as technical or mental ability, for which english players are noted by their relative absence.
    He said in 2004 he was a year away from retirement.

    He wasn't. Neutral
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    Post by ricky//habana Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:57 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:04-08 is a 5 year period.
    i meant in terms of the football ear, not the calendar year. 04/05, 05/06, 06/07, and 07/08
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:58 am

    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral
    Or 2..

    I was going by the 04/05 season, but whatever.
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    Post by ricky//habana Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 am

    Danny wrote:
    ricky//habana wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral
    Or 2..
    04-08 is a 4 year period btw

    back to the topic, it's probably because the foreign leagues don't value physical prowess as much as technical or mental ability, for which english players are noted by their relative absence.
    He said in 2004 he was a year away from retirement.

    He wasn't. Neutral
    ZZ retired after the 06 world cup, he made the point that the 04-08 gerrard would have been his replacement. even if he was 2 years off retirement.
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 am

    Dan wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why would Zidane need replacing in 2004?

    He was a year from retirement.. Neutral
    Or 2..

    I was going by the 04/05 season, but whatever.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:00 am

    Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:04 am

    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.
    Gerrard to Madrid in summer 09?

    They bought Ronaldo, Kaka, and Alonso didn't they? Can't see them being too interested in Gerrard..

    Unless they were after him before Alonso. shifty
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:05 am

    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.
    Gerrard to Madrid in summer 09?

    They bought Ronaldo, Kaka, and Alonso didn't they? Can't see them being too interested in Gerrard..

    Unless they were after him before Alonso. shifty

    This is Real Madrid we are talking about.. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:06 am

    Danny wrote:
    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.
    Gerrard to Madrid in summer 09?

    They bought Ronaldo, Kaka, and Alonso didn't they? Can't see them being too interested in Gerrard..

    Unless they were after him before Alonso. shifty


    No, I did remember that cos I was really worried that he was gonna leave.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:14 am

    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.

    Because they had Sneijder and Gerrard wouldn't have been able to take the penalties.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:16 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.

    Because they had Sneijder and Gerrard wouldn't have been able to take the penalties.

    They bought Ronaldo though.. scratch
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:21 am

    Dan wrote:
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    Dan wrote:Why aren't we including the 08/09 season either? Considering he was brilliant that season.

    Because they had Sneijder and Gerrard wouldn't have been able to take the penalties.

    They bought Ronaldo though.. scratch

    They bought Ronaldo in 2009, I thought you were talking about the 08/09 season (ie. before they bought Ronaldo).
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:22 am

    I think he's talking about summer 2009 (after 08/09 obviously..)
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    Post by El Jefe Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:24 am

    I think you stink.
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    Post by ricky//habana Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:49 am

    why are we even talking about gerrard when beckham is a much more appropriate example
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    Post by Lux Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:19 am

    polska. wrote:
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    Fine Shagger wrote:Why would foreign teams want English players?

    I'm sure someone would like Rooney in their team. whistle
    If it was between Higuain or Rooney, the majority would choose Higuain.

    Hurr Durr Derp Derp
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    Post by ghost305 Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:20 am

    English do have some technical ability.Its just that there are no incentives to play in other leagues: there are 6 top teams in the EPL, they get paid more money(especially if you can hustle your way in the national team).
    In LA liga, there's only barca and real. a lot of the other teams are in debt which makes it hard to pay money to top players. Serie A is pretty much a retirement home, i don't think any english players would want to play there.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:26 am

    ricky//habana wrote:why are we even talking about gerrard when beckham is a much more appropriate example

    Because Beckham actually did go abroad, he didn't just claim that big foreign clubs wanted to sign him.

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