Andy Carroll v Fernando Torres

Well I never did. Always accepted he had his faults. But he always had the pace and decisiveness to change all that. Now he's lost that half a yard and with it he's lost alot of his game.

what point are you trying to make? that he is/isn't a technical beast?

because I brought up the point that he's not, so if you have proof of me saying he is than post it - if it's everybody else than don't bother..

hey eternal what was your name in old forum?

lol at Eternal being all 'well I've never said it'

Eternal Witcher wrote:Oh that's sorted then. Carroll is just shite. Torres in his current abysmal form is still better than him. /thread.

I don't think anyone has said that, you use the right term though 'form'.

El_indian wrote:what point are you trying to make? that he is/isn't a technical beast?

because I brought up the point that he's not, so if have proof of me saying he is than post it - if it's everybody else than don't bother..

th epoint is that to many people in this current forum are contradicting themselves in regard to torres being "poor touch, absolutely useless most of the time, cant pass" and are saying they were sayting this for many years etcyet when 2 years ago they never said such thing and infact praised torres for those things

for me, its not about whether torres can do this or not, because everyone here knows im the most intelligent on this subject and the fact is torres is not to great technically.torres compared to ibrahimovic or villa technically is like comparing essien to pirlo or scholes. just not the same class.

but the hypocritical stench of this forum is a big stink of filth. so like a crusader i will name and shame those who change their opinion as often as they change their underwear, unless you are vivarooney who does not wear underwear

mauro=beast wrote:

El_indian wrote:what point are you trying to make? that he is/isn't a technical beast?

because I brought up the point that he's not, so if have proof of me saying he is than post it - if it's everybody else than don't bother..

th epoint is that to many people in this current forum are contradicting themselves in regard to torres being "poor touch, absolutely useless most of the time, cant pass" and are saying they were sayting this for many years etcyet when 2 years ago they never said such thing and infact praised torres for those things

for me, its not about whether torres can do this or not, because everyone here knows im the most intelligent on this subject and the fact is torres is not to great technically.torres compared to ibrahimovic or villa technically is like comparing essien to pirlo or scholes. just not the same class.

but the hypocritical stench of this forum is a big stink of filth. so like a crusader i will name and shame those who change their opinion as often as they change their underwear, unless you are vivarooney who does not wear underwear

OK well since I brought it up you find a post of me contradicting myself

mauro=beast wrote:

El_indian wrote:what point are you trying to make? that he is/isn't a technical beast?

because I brought up the point that he's not, so if have proof of me saying he is than post it - if it's everybody else than don't bother..

th epoint is that to many people in this current forum are contradicting themselves in regard to torres being "poor touch, absolutely useless most of the time, cant pass" and are saying they were sayting this for many years etcyet when 2 years ago they never said such thing and infact praised torres for those things

for me, its not about whether torres can do this or not, because everyone here knows im the most intelligent on this subject and the fact is torres is not to great technically.torres compared to ibrahimovic or villa technically is like comparing essien to pirlo or scholes. just not the same class.

but the hypocritical stench of this forum is a big stink of filth. so like a crusader i will name and shame those who change their opinion as often as they change their underwear, unless you are vivarooney who does not wear underwear

OK well since I brought it up you find a post of me contradicting myself

you will be pleasently surprise

i look forward to it

maybe then I can join your list, or you're joining mine - yeah I'll make one for you bitch

Mauro beastifys anyone Fluffy Kittens is missing from the list

where's Eternal fucked off to, he was just starting to become active in this thread

Hes afraid of another beasting

El_indian wrote:lol at Eternal being all 'well I've never said it'

Well I haven't.

And Mauro I wasn't in the old forums.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

Arse-licking much?

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

did you make the 'Anfield should be removed from FIFA' thread on the new EA forums?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

El_indian wrote:lol at Eternal being all 'well I've never said it'

Well I haven't.

And Mauro I wasn't in the old forums.

is that Harrison Ford?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

Arse-licking much?

I appreciate beastifying's

El_indian wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

did you make the 'Anfield should be removed from FIFA' thread on the new EA forums?

Probably

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:Oh that's sorted then. Carroll is just shite. Torres in his current abysmal form is still better than him. /thread.

I don't think anyone has said that, you use the right term though 'form'.

Che -
"I don't like this Carrol guy, I know he's scored a lot of goals but I have a feeling he won't ever be that great, even if Torres never goes back to being the player he used to be I still think he'll be better."

Sure I added abit. To say he can't be better than the current Torres pretty much means he's shite.

El_indian wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

El_indian wrote:lol at Eternal being all 'well I've never said it'

Well I haven't.

And Mauro I wasn't in the old forums.

is that Harrison Ford?

Sean Bean, legendary actor.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

Arse-licking much?

I appreciate beastifying's

Still means you're sycophantic.

What the hell? I never said he can't be better than the current Torres.

I said that even if he doesn't go back to the player he used to be I still think Torres will be better, not being the player he used to be doesn't mean he can't be a good player, or even a very good one, just not world class.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

Arse-licking much?

I appreciate beastifying's

Still means you're sycophantic.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Hes afraid of another beasting

Arse-licking much?

I appreciate beastifying's

Still means you're sycophantic.

I don't even know what that means - had to look that shit up

Ché Guayaba wrote:What the hell? I never said he can't be better than the current Torres.

I said that even if he doesn't go back to the player he used to be I still think Torres will be better, not being the player he used to be doesn't mean he can't be a good player, or even a very good one, just not world class.

Word it right next time.

You haven't seen enough of Carroll to make judgments on his potential ability. You could argue that I haven't either.

Torres, when he's on-form, is one of the best strikers in the world. Without a doubt.

Liverpool wrote:Torres, when he's on-form, is one of the best strikers in the world. Without a doubt.

change it to was and I'll agree. Can't quite see him fully rejuvenated.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Ché Guayaba wrote:What the hell? I never said he can't be better than the current Torres.

I said that even if he doesn't go back to the player he used to be I still think Torres will be better, not being the player he used to be doesn't mean he can't be a good player, or even a very good one, just not world class.

Word it right next time.

You haven't seen enough of Carroll to make judgments on his potential ability. You could argue that I haven't either.

But I've seen enough of him for him to leave an initial impression, and that impression was not very impressive. I might be wrong, and it's even likely that I am, hell I used to think Valencia was a one dimensional bag of poo but I was wrong. But until proven wrong I've already made my initial opinion.

Don't read into the smilie too much, I just like using it.

Ché Guayaba wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Ché Guayaba wrote:What the hell? I never said he can't be better than the current Torres.

I said that even if he doesn't go back to the player he used to be I still think Torres will be better, not being the player he used to be doesn't mean he can't be a good player, or even a very good one, just not world class.

Word it right next time.

You haven't seen enough of Carroll to make judgments on his potential ability. You could argue that I haven't either.

But I've seen enough of him for him to leave an initial impression, and that impression was not very impressive. I might be wrong, and it's even likely that I am, hell I used to think Valencia was a one dimensional bag of poo but I was wrong. But until proven wrong I've already made my initial opinion.

Don't read into the smilie too much, I just like using it.

You should have used the city game as the initial impression Anyways footballers surprise all the time. Let's wait and see.

TBH in that City game he did nothing but score 2 goals - the first luckily fell to him and he smashed it in with his sweet left. The second was a awkward deflected header.

I like the guy honestly but there isn't much to his overall game ATM, I'll give him time but I do doubt.