Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with improper conduct by the Football Association for comments about referee Howard Webb.
The comments in question were made in the build-up to the 2-1 Premier League win over Chelsea on 8 May.
Even though Ferguson spoke positively about Webb, he broke FA rules which state no manager should speak about a referee prior to a match.
The Old Trafford club's manager has until 1600 BST on 16 May to respond.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13387966.stm
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FA Charges Ferguson for Ref Comments (Again)
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Oh for fuck sake Fergie.
What is he being charged for saying?
What is he being charged for saying?
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You know, I had to read it three times before making sure it was serious. And it is...
Oh dear. Waits for 'Kyro'...
EDIT: He has entered.
Oh dear. Waits for 'Kyro'...
EDIT: He has entered.
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Oh my god, so he's being charged for saying Webb is a good ref?
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kyro7 wrote:Oh for fuck sake Fergie.
What is he being charged for saying?
It was something positive apparently, because you're not allowed to say anything.
Seems a bit harsh to charge him from saying Webb is a good ref, but I suppose by saying he's a good one it also implies there are bad refs too and the FA don't like that.
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I read he said he's the best in the country..Zzonked wrote:kyro7 wrote:Oh for fuck sake Fergie.
What is he being charged for saying?
It was something positive apparently, because you're not allowed to say anything.
Seems a bit harsh to charge him from saying Webb is a good ref, but I suppose by saying he's a good one it also implies there are bad refs too and the FA don't like that.
Fuck me getting charged for that..
So what this time? 9 point dock? removed from the CL final? Rooney banned for life? Fergie 38 matches in the stands?
Fuck sake.
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"We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that," he said at the time.
"But (getting a bad decision) is definitely our big fear.
"We have the players to do it all right. We just hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."
Doesn't really seem like it needs to be punished. Very harsh decision imo.
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Fucking hell.
Fergie's association.
Fergie's association.
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"We are getting the best referee, there is no doubt about that," he said at the time.
"But (getting a bad decision) is definitely our big fear.
"We have the players to do it all right. We just hope it's our turn for a little bit of luck."
Oh fucking hell. How ridiculous is this?
He's blatantly buttering Webb up there to act favourably to Man U.
I bet he somehow gets away with a slap on the wrist because they are nice words.
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Well the rules do state that you must not talk about the ref in any way before a game. And I think you're missing the point here lads, it's not so much what said, it's what he said (If that makes sense..erm). Like it can be seen as 'tapping' a referee up, sweet talking, so to say (I know he weren't obviously, but the rules are in place).
It's harsh, but it's a blunder by Ferguson.
It's harsh, but it's a blunder by Ferguson.
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So Basically you can't say anything about referees? The guy just recieved an MBE, and refereed the last world cup final, surely Ferguson must be allowed to say he's a good referee? Another silly decisions by the FA.
Oh and before people go "He's blatantly trying to affect Webb", he's a professional referee. He's supposed to be able to deal with media attention and remain unbiased no matter what
Oh and before people go "He's blatantly trying to affect Webb", he's a professional referee. He's supposed to be able to deal with media attention and remain unbiased no matter what
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Laurencio wrote: So Basically you can't say anything about referees? The guy just recieved an MBE, and refereed the last world cup final, surely Ferguson must be allowed to say he's a good referee? Another silly decisions by the FA.
Oh and before people go "He's blatantly trying to affect Webb", he's a professional referee. He's supposed to be able to deal with media attention and remain unbiased no matter what
Well as far as I'm aware, you can't directly talk about a referee right before a game. And we know he's not trying to affect Webb. But there rules are in place and Ferguson broke that rule. It's as much idiocy on his part, as it is a stupid rule to be fair.
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Dean wrote:Well the rules do state that you must not talk about the ref in any way before a game. And I think you're missing the point here lads, it's not so much what said, it's what he said (If that makes sense..erm). Like it can be seen as 'tapping' a referee up, sweet talking, so to say (I know he weren't obviously, but the rules are in place).
It's harsh, but it's a blunder by Ferguson.
Didn't miss the point, just said it's harsh to charge him for that. Even though he did break the rules, it was only a passing comment, which he was probably led into saying by a question.
I'd rather he didn't talk about refs at all though, I just hope he'll learn from this zero tolerance policy (which I doubt).
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Same, wish he'd just fucking say "I don't want to make comments about referee's" and leave it at that.Zzonked wrote:I'd rather he didn't talk about refs at all though, I just hope he'll learn from this zero tolerance policy (which I doubt).
Fuck sake.
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kyro7 wrote:I read he said he's the best in the country..Zzonked wrote:kyro7 wrote:Oh for fuck sake Fergie.
What is he being charged for saying?
It was something positive apparently, because you're not allowed to say anything.
Seems a bit harsh to charge him from saying Webb is a good ref, but I suppose by saying he's a good one it also implies there are bad refs too and the FA don't like that.
Fuck me getting charged for that..
So what this time? 9 point dock? removed from the CL final? Rooney banned for life? Fergie 38 matches in the stands?
Fuck sake.
All United's 12 title's under Fergie will be taken away frrom Manchester United.
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Yeah erm that's the point.Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:kyro7 wrote:I read he said he's the best in the country..Zzonked wrote:kyro7 wrote:Oh for fuck sake Fergie.
What is he being charged for saying?
It was something positive apparently, because you're not allowed to say anything.
Seems a bit harsh to charge him from saying Webb is a good ref, but I suppose by saying he's a good one it also implies there are bad refs too and the FA don't like that.
Fuck me getting charged for that..
So what this time? 9 point dock? removed from the CL final? Rooney banned for life? Fergie 38 matches in the stands?
Fuck sake.
All United's 12 title's under Fergie will be taken away frrom Manchester United.
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thsi is retarded cause he probably got asked by the media "what are your thoughts on howard webb refeering your match with chelsea?"
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
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Good to see the FA have got their priorities right though.
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One of the MUTV people who I follow on twitter said he was asked about the ref.ViVaRooney wrote:thsi is retarded cause he probably got asked by the media "what are your thoughts on howard webb refeering your match with chelsea?"
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
http://twitter.com/nickcoppack/status/68984941156900864
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ViVaRooney wrote:thsi is retarded cause he probably got asked by the media "what are your thoughts on howard webb refeering your match with chelsea?"
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
Problem with that, the media are a different entity from the FA. So the FA can't tell the media jack shit, the media can ask what they like. And to be honest I can Ferguson getting away with it any way. He'll most likely say 'I didn't know' Though I'm sure as professional manager going on nearly 30 years, you'd think he knows this. Saying that though, could have forgot, suppose that's just old age for you though.
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Makes it even worse that does.
So, what do you think of Howard Webb?
Top ref he is, he's the best.
Charged.
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The rule has only come in recently though Dean..Dean wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:thsi is retarded cause he probably got asked by the media "what are your thoughts on howard webb refeering your match with chelsea?"
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
Problem with that, the media are a different entity from the FA. So the FA can't tell the media jack shit, the media can ask what they like. And to be honest I can Ferguson getting away with it any way. He'll most likely say 'I didn't know' Though I'm sure as professional manager going on nearly 30 years, you'd think he knows this. Saying that though, could have forgot, suppose that's just old age for you though.
They came in after David Moyes said some ref was in our favour before the FA Cup Semi Final.
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kyro7 wrote:
Makes it even worse that does.
So, what do you think of Howard Webb?
Top ref he is, he's the best.
Charged.
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kyro7 wrote:The rule has only come in recently though Dean..Dean wrote:ViVaRooney wrote:thsi is retarded cause he probably got asked by the media "what are your thoughts on howard webb refeering your match with chelsea?"
fuck the FA
if FA dont want managers talking about refs then stop the media from asking questions about the ref. simple fucking as
Problem with that, the media are a different entity from the FA. So the FA can't tell the media jack shit, the media can ask what they like. And to be honest I can Ferguson getting away with it any way. He'll most likely say 'I didn't know' Though I'm sure as professional manager going on nearly 30 years, you'd think he knows this. Saying that though, could have forgot, suppose that's just old age for you though.
They came in after David Moyes said some ref was in our favour before the FA Cup Semi Final.
Fucking hell the alzheimer's must be bad then.
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What I mean is, this rule hasn't been used much.. he probably didn't think anyone would bat an eyelid if he complimented a ref..Dean wrote:Fucking hell the alzheimer's must be bad then.
"A member of the press asked me if Mike Riley was a Manchester United supporter and I think that's something you would need to bring up with the FA," Moyes said. "If you're saying that he is, you'd hope the FA would look at it. It is something that one or two managers would have something to say about."
That's what Moyes said.
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kyro7 wrote:
Makes it even worse that does.
So, what do you think of Howard Webb?
Top ref he is, he's the best.
Charged.
Fucking disgraceful. He might aswell just say "I love you Webby, give us a penalty or something".
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CollieBuddz wrote:Fucking disgraceful. He might aswell just say "I love you Webby, give us a penalty or something".
Ryan I'll never take your bait (again), I know what you're like you naughty boy.
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Dean wrote:Laurencio wrote: So Basically you can't say anything about referees? The guy just recieved an MBE, and refereed the last world cup final, surely Ferguson must be allowed to say he's a good referee? Another silly decisions by the FA.
Oh and before people go "He's blatantly trying to affect Webb", he's a professional referee. He's supposed to be able to deal with media attention and remain unbiased no matter what
Well as far as I'm aware, you can't directly talk about a referee right before a game. And we know he's not trying to affect Webb. But there rules are in place and Ferguson broke that rule. It's as much idiocy on his part, as it is a stupid rule to be fair.
Yeah but managers talk about refs all the time. It's not normal practice to fine someone for praising a referee. It's a silly rule that has never been enforced until now. FA is getting worse by the day...
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kyro7 wrote:CollieBuddz wrote:Fucking disgraceful. He might aswell just say "I love you Webby, give us a penalty or something".
Ryan I'll never take your bait (again), I know what you're like you naughty boy.
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Ancelotti before
game "If the referee has no experience, maybe I can be a little bit
worried about this, but with Webb there is no problem."
game "If the referee has no experience, maybe I can be a little bit
worried about this, but with Webb there is no problem."