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polska. wrote:Ok, let me rephrase myself. Put Robinho back into the 50's and he'd score 30-40 goals a season too.

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

It was Luke's fault

Tom wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Tom wrote:Eternal Witcher how can you judge a defenders defencive capabilities without watching long individual clips? well you can't, it doesn't really work like that

Oh really?

Please tell me how it works then

Oh wait you just did, I appreciate your wisdom. Watching long individual clips every flippin week it is then.

Oh I'm sorry would you like me to show u him getting skinned on a short clip so I can conclude your thoughts on that he's somehow shit?

polska. wrote:

Dan wrote:

polska. wrote:TBH I don't think Pele was all that special, the likes of Robinho and Neymar probably surpass him. It was different times and I bet Pele would just be another 20-goal season striker today and not thought of as much more.

He was no Grzegorz Lato, that's for sure.

Now there's a man who surpassed Pele.

But I don't see what I said was wrong or so laughable. I gave perfectly good reasoning. I seriously seriously doubt Pele could play in the modern era and be as great as he was. They were different times and while he was amazing back then, Look back at other greats of the game, Puskas and Zarra, who like Pele, accrued an IMMENSE amount of goals. I can't help but think that those times, football was a much easier game. I doubt that those 3 would achieve many more goals than let's say 30 a season, IF that, if they were here today.

polska. wrote:

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

You simply can't mention Ashley Cole in a negative sense around Luke.

Granted I probably started all this with my response to Lukes "Cole is the best LB in the world" post.

polska. wrote:TBH I don't think Pele was all that special, the likes of Robinho and Neymar probably surpass him. It was different times and I bet Pele would just be another 20-goal season striker today and not thought of as much more.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Tom wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Tom wrote:Eternal Witcher how can you judge a defenders defencive capabilities without watching long individual clips? well you can't, it doesn't really work like that

Oh really?

Please tell me how it works then

Oh wait you just did, I appreciate your wisdom. Watching long individual clips every flippin week it is then.

Oh I'm sorry would you like me to show u him getting skinned on a short clip so I can conclude your thoughts on that he's somehow shit?

I did just agree with you

Rei wrote:

polska. wrote:Ok, let me rephrase myself. Put Robinho back into the 50's and he'd score 30-40 goals a season too.

Sometimes you do spout some bs polska. Robinho doesn't exactly like being kicked off the park.

blackskar wrote:

If you want to discuss LB's and whatnot go make another thread about it

blackskar wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

It was Luke's fault

No need for the blame game.

Anways:

Get back on topic or it'll be locked

If you want to discuss LB's and whatnot go make another thread about it

Tom wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

It was Luke's fault

No need for the blame game.

Anways:

Get back on topic or it'll be locked

If you want to discuss LB's and whatnot go make another thread about it

Make us a thread then, don't lock this up.. we're having a good discussion for once

Tom wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Tom wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Tom wrote:Eternal Witcher how can you judge a defenders defencive capabilities without watching long individual clips? well you can't, it doesn't really work like that

Oh really?

Please tell me how it works then

Oh wait you just did, I appreciate your wisdom. Watching long individual clips every flippin week it is then.

Oh I'm sorry would you like me to show u him getting skinned on a short clip so I can conclude your thoughts on that he's somehow shit?

I did just agree with you

Oh wow I must be Polska

Eternal Witcher wrote:Back on topic

Ashley Cole




there

polska. wrote:

luke. wrote:

polska. wrote:

Dan wrote:

polska. wrote:TBH I don't think Pele was all that special, the likes of Robinho and Neymar probably surpass him. It was different times and I bet Pele would just be another 20-goal season striker today and not thought of as much more.

He was no Grzegorz Lato, that's for sure.

Now there's a man who surpassed Pele.

But I don't see what I said was wrong or so laughable. I gave perfectly good reasoning. I seriously seriously doubt Pele could play in the modern era and be as great as he was. They were different times and while he was amazing back then, Look back at other greats of the game, Puskas and Zarra, who like Pele, accrued an IMMENSE amount of goals. I can't help but think that those times, football was a much easier game. I doubt that those 3 would achieve many more goals than let's say 30 a season, IF that, if they were here today.

Just because Pele might not have been as good today doesn't mean he could be surpassed by Robinho of all people.

If Robinho was so good you wouldn't need to say, 'defenders are better nowadays so Robinho can't do what Pele done' or some bullshit.

Ok, let me rephrase myself. Put Robinho back into the 50's and he'd score 30-40 goals a season too.

blackskar wrote:

Tom wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

blackskar wrote:Love how completely off topic this has gotten.

It was Luke's fault

No need for the blame game.

Anways:

Get back on topic or it'll be locked

If you want to discuss LB's and whatnot go make another thread about it

Make us a thread then, don't lock this up.. we're having a good discussion for once

You make the thread -_- I'm not your butler

Either that or I'll change the thread name or something.

Tom wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Tom wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

It was Luke's fault

No need for the blame game.

Anways:

Get back on topic or it'll be locked

If you want to discuss LB's and whatnot go make another thread about it

Make us a thread then, don't lock this up.. we're having a good discussion for once

You make the thread -_- I'm not your butler

Either that or I'll change the thread name or something.

You may boss me around here, but in the Arsenal thread you're my bitch

Tom wrote:

polska. wrote:

Dan wrote:

polska. wrote:TBH I don't think Pele was all that special, the likes of Robinho and Neymar probably surpass him. It was different times and I bet Pele would just be another 20-goal season striker today and not thought of as much more.

He was no Grzegorz Lato, that's for sure.

Now there's a man who surpassed Pele.

But I don't see what I said was wrong or so laughable. I gave perfectly good reasoning. I seriously seriously doubt Pele could play in the modern era and be as great as he was. They were different times and while he was amazing back then, Look back at other greats of the game, Puskas and Zarra, who like Pele, accrued an IMMENSE amount of goals. I can't help but think that those times, football was a much easier game. I doubt that those 3 would achieve many more goals than let's say 30 a season, IF that, if they were here today.

Robinho can't get an average of 0.89 (or something) goals for Brazil, another reason for why it doesn't matter whatever the era is. If he was better he would atleast show it given the same opportunities, another reason for why Robinho isn't the best of his generation because he can't even match his international goals in his own generation.

Also Robinho would die in the same game Pele played, you have no idea

Rei wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:Back on topic

Ashley Cole




there

I think they would have mentioned something about the guy being vaporized.

Eternal Witcher wrote:I wouldn't mind being that fan, as long as I didn't get vaporized. Imagine how much money I could sue that sugar daddy for

luke. wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:I wouldn't mind being that fan, as long as I didn't get vaporized. Imagine how much money I could sue that sugar daddy for

You wouldn't mind being non-existent?

NGreat wrote:I wonder what Torres makes of the situation

Eternal Witcher wrote:

NGreat wrote:I wonder what Torres makes of the situation

well we all wish it was him, but I honestly can't guess that traitor's mind anymore, more devious than Saruman