Van Persie V Torres

It depends what you'd prefer to have in your team. Both are great strikers and are as good as each other IMO.

You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

luke. wrote:You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

You havent seen much of him then, and what about assists if thats the case then every player would be doing maradona runs to try and score

That actually sounded really dumb

But I CBA explaining what I mean :\

luke. wrote:You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

RVP scores goals, he assists and brings other players into attacking play. Can play on the wing effectively, can take free kicks, penalties and corners I'd class that all as contributing.

RVP can win a match out of nothing too. He just get lots of support as we kick major ass

If either needed the help it'd be Torres. As he'd need people to assist his goals

luke. wrote:You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

Then you've seen nothing. Torres can win a match out of nothing? Van Persie can do the exact same thing, for example see the goal today, came from nothing but a world class finish from RvP.

As for your first sentence, we might as well get rid of GK's, Defenders and midfielders then

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

No, their job is whatever job the manager gives them. Thats their job.

Plan D wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

No, their job is whatever job the manager gives them. Thats their job.

Although generally the idea of a striker is to convert chances into goals. Anything extra is a bonus.

luke. wrote:

Plan D wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

No, their job is whatever job the manager gives them. Thats their job.

Although generally the idea of a striker is to convert chances into goals. Anything extra is a bonus.

And you get more of a bonus with RVP

He only got converted to a out and out striker last season when he went 433 he used to play off adebayor

luke. wrote:

Plan D wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

No, their job is whatever job the manager gives them. Thats their job.

Although generally the idea of a striker is to convert chances into goals. Anything extra is a bonus.

Ye' but Van Persie and Torres are totally different players, have played in totally different teams and played under totally different styles. So obviously there is gunna be a difference in goals.

Torres playing for Liverpool played as a loan striker- All the play went through him and Gerrard. A lot of long balls and very much direct. Van Persie has played in an Arsenal team that are much more team based, it's about build up play, Van Persie drops deep a lot and helps out and contributes in general play, Torres doesn't.

Can't be assed goin' into detail about it, am tired, but generally you should get what I mean.

Plan D wrote:

luke. wrote:

Plan D wrote:

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

No, their job is whatever job the manager gives them. Thats their job.

Although generally the idea of a striker is to convert chances into goals. Anything extra is a bonus.

Ye' but Van Persie and Torres are totally different players, have played in totally different teams and played under totally different styles. So obviously there is gunna be a difference in goals.

Torres playing for Liverpool played as a loan striker- All the play went through him and Gerrard. A lot of long balls and very much direct. Van Persie has played in an Arsenal team that are much more team based, it's about build up play, Van Persie drops deep a lot and helps out and contributes in general play, Torres doesn't.

Can't be assed goin' into detail about it, am tired, but generally you should get what I mean.

Yeah I know what you mean.

luke. wrote:You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

That actually is not true at all and to be honest you couldn't be more from the truth. Torres can NOT win a game on his own and certainly not a player of that type. Torres is the type of player, that needs good players round him, it all needs to be going well, the team need to play well. When that is the case, he's fantastic. HOWEVER when the team doesn't play well, and things get tough, he actually in truth becomes a liabilty to have in the team.

He just ends up frustrated, his first touch goes, and ends up getting booked, arguing with defenders and refs, he's a sulker when it doesn't go his way. Torres's goal record is fantastic, but one thing that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was playing with one of the best attacking midfielders in the world in Steven Gerrard, when Gerrard is on song, he can make any striker look world class.

luke. wrote:You can't contribute much more to the team then scoring goals. Goals win games.

Torres can win a match out of nothing.

RvP needs a lot of support from what I've seen.

Did you mis-type that ? I've always seen it the other way around tbh.

Oh so this was a serious thread?

voted Van Persie cos he's better

Zzonked wrote:Torres goals in first 4 seasons (including this one even though it's not finished) = 65
Van Persie goals in first 4 seasons = 28

Their job is to score goals.

Torres is better at it.

Torres is better.

/thread

4 seasons? So you are judging how good a player RVP was when he was not playing due to injuries and also had Bergkamp and Thierry Henry playing striker in front of him?

You should judge it on goals/game ratio.

Last 4 seasons:

Torres: 81/143 = 0.566 gpg
RVP: 31/51 = 0.608 gpg

SBSP_FIFA wrote:Last 4 seasons:

Torres: 81/143 = 0.566 gpg
RVP: 31/51 = 0.608 gpg

You're saying Van Persie has only played 51 games in 4 seasons? That's almost definitely wrong.

SBSP_FIFA wrote:Last 4 seasons:

Torres: 81/143 = 0.566 gpg
RVP: 31/51 = 0.608 gpg

Torres one is right
RVP 106 games 51 goals = 0.48

Nice work proving your own point wrong

SBSP_FIFA wrote:Last 4 seasons:

Torres: 81/143 = 0.566 gpg
RVP: 31/51 = 0.608 gpg

120 - With a goal every 120 mins, F Torres has overtaken Henry as the most regular goalscorer in PL history. Rapido
OPTA STATS.

That was a couple of weeks ago im not sure if he has lost that record now or not but he has a better goal ratio than RVP.

Zzonked wrote:

SBSP_FIFA wrote:Last 4 seasons:

Torres: 81/143 = 0.566 gpg
RVP: 31/51 = 0.608 gpg

Torres one is right
RVP 106 games 51 goals = 0.48

Nice work proving your own point wrong

I think I was looking at assists and goals instead of goals and games.

BTW, I wasn't proving any point; I was just trying to post the stats he was asking for.

From 06/07 to now in EPL RVP has...
76 starts 17 subs = 93 apps
46 goals 32 assists = 78 goals

Atleast we now know that RVP has an assist for every 0.6 of a goal

I'm not sure if the Liverpool fans really mean it when they say Persie is better, or they're denouncing Torres since he's left us, but Torres is class. He might not contribute as much as Persie to the team, but as a pure striker (pace, strength, technique, finishing, composure) I'd rate Torres over Persie.

Zzonked wrote:Atleast we now know that RVP has an assist for every 0.6 of a goal

Boggers wrote:I'm not sure if the Liverpool fans really mean it when they say Persie is better, or they're denouncing Torres since he's left us, but Torres is class. He might not contribute as much as Persie to the team, but as a pure striker (pace, strength, technique, finishing, composure) I'd rate Torres over Persie.

I think most people have said Torres is the better striker but RVP is the better overall player.

The-Reporter wrote:From 06/07 to now in EPL RVP has...
76 starts 17 subs = 93 apps
46 goals 32 assists = 78 goals

That's a bit misleading, an assist isn't a goal.

lol

kyro7 wrote:Van Persie is the better player, Torres the better goalscorer.

Disagree, Rvp is better at both.

Barton wrote:It depends what you'd prefer to have in your team. Both are great strikers and are as good as each other IMO.