The Atheist Thread

MickStupp wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:You can't disprove God, just like you couldn't disprove gravity, just because you can't disprove antimatter, it's there, but we're just not looking in the right places for it.

Faith isn't blind, faith is looking at the facts from a perspective.

But there is evidence - rather strong evidence at that - that gravitational forces do exist.
The onus isn't on us to disprove it. You can't disprove that there isn't an undetectable teapot orbiting the Earth. However, that does not mean it is not improbable.

And Ahly, faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

MickStupp wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:You can't disprove God, just like you couldn't disprove gravity, just because you can't disprove antimatter, it's there, but we're just not looking in the right places for it.

Faith isn't blind, faith is looking at the facts from a perspective.

But there is evidence - rather strong evidence at that - that gravitational forces do exist.
The onus isn't on us to disprove it. You can't disprove that there isn't an undetectable teapot orbiting the Earth. However, that does not mean it is not improbable.

And Ahly, faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Roloman4 wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:You can't disprove God, just like you couldn't disprove gravity, just because you can't disprove antimatter, it's there, but we're just not looking in the right places for it.

Faith isn't blind, faith is looking at the facts from a perspective.

Faith is ignoring facts and following an unfounded belief.

ahlycotc wrote:

There is some evidence that God exists. Some people choose to accept that evidence, other choose not to. There is a difference between something being improbable and being impossible. It's not impossible for a God to exist. If you think it's improbable, then so be it.

I didn't come to the conclusion that God exists out of nowhere. I used logic and the evidence that was presented to me. Not everyone uses evidence or thinks the same.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:

Faith is ignoring facts and following an unfounded belief.

Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.

The Bat-Man wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Words fall from your mouth like shit from ass.

Mate do you have any respect whatsoever to other human beings, I mean us Muslims have levels of respect and one of the fundamental levels of respect for all human beings, believer and non-believer, father or stranger, is to respect his opinion and not abuse him physically/verbally.

And you call us backwards.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Mate do you have any respect whatsoever to other human beings, I mean us Muslims have levels of respect and one of the fundamental levels of respect for all human beings, believer and non-believer, father or stranger, is to respect his opinion and not abuse him physically/verbally.

And you call us backwards.

Sorry, but you seem a touch confused.

Rolo's the enemy here.
That was a memorable Spartacus quote. If you haven't watched it yet, go get run over by a truck because life is not worth living otherwise.

Coatsy wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

There is some evidence that God exists. Some people choose to accept that evidence, other choose not to. There is a difference between something being improbable and being impossible. It's not impossible for a God to exist. If you think it's improbable, then so be it.

I didn't come to the conclusion that God exists out of nowhere. I used logic and the evidence that was presented to me. Not everyone uses evidence or thinks the same.

Fire away.

The Bat-Man wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sorry, but you seem a touch confused.

Rolo's the enemy here.
That was a memorable Spartacus quote. If you haven't watched it yet, go get run over by a truck because life is not worth living otherwise.

Excuse my ignorance, what side of the fence are you on?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Excuse my ignorance, what side of the fence are you on?

I'm a rather liberal Protestant. So I am on your side.

The Bat-Man wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

I'm a rather liberal Protestant. So I am on your side.

Oh sorry then.

I didn't pick it up as sarcasm.

The Bat-Man wrote:

MickStupp wrote:
But there is evidence - rather strong evidence at that - that gravitational forces do exist.
The onus isn't on us to disprove it. You can't disprove that there isn't an undetectable teapot orbiting the Earth. However, that does not mean it is not improbable.

And Ahly, faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

How do you know God doesn't have an effect on us.

We didn't know shit about gravity, we didn't know that we could float, we didn't know that there was a force pulling us down, we just new we were there and we didn't float, cos we never experienced weightlessness.

Anti-matter, I don't think anyone here can tell us what it does or what it is, but we know that without it we wouldn't be a series of coherent particles.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Oh sorry then.

I didn't pick it up as sarcasm.

Sarcasm? Rolo was spouting out another anti-faith 'fact'. So I denounced him.

ahlycotc wrote:

Coatsy wrote:


Fire away.

The universe, the Quran, etc. I won't waste my time explaining in detail these things.

Rolo is wrong in assuming that all religious people have not used logic or evidence to come up with their conclusions. It's not like, "hey today, I feel like believing in God" and that's that.

MickStupp wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

How do you know God doesn't have an effect on us.

We didn't know shit about gravity, we didn't know that we could float, we didn't know that there was a force pulling us down, we just new we were there and we didn't float, cos we never experienced weightlessness.

Anti-matter, I don't think anyone here can tell us what it does or what it is, but we know that without it we wouldn't be a series of coherent particles.

What kind of effect do you mean? Physical? Because gravity and buoyancy can be explained physically, whereas a deity cannot.

Anti-matter is made up of anti-particles, which are just particles of opposite properties, like charge, from particles we had first discovered. High energy photons can be created from the annihilation of a particle-antiparticle pair. I don't really know what relevance this has to this discussion though.

Coatsy wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

The universe, the Quran, etc. I won't waste my time explaining in detail these things.

Rolo is wrong in assuming that all religious people have not used logic or evidence to come up with their conclusions. It's not like, "hey today, I feel like believing in God" and that's that.

By universe I presume you mean that you believe god created the universe. I prefer to believe the big bang theory of how the universe began since it is supported by evidence such as Red Shift rather than some nice story from ancient scriptures but each to their own. Same goes for evolution/speciation and all that jazz.

MickStupp wrote:

Coatsy wrote:


By universe I presume you mean that you believe god created the universe. I prefer to believe the big bang theory of how the universe began since it is supported by evidence such as Red Shift rather than some nice story from ancient scriptures but each to their own. Same goes for evolution/speciation and all that jazz.

The thing is that you can believe god created the big bang. But I really cannot see how the universe being existent proves god's existence.
If anything I find it incredibly arrogant to think that god created this unimaginably enormous universe for humans.

Coatsy wrote:

MickStupp wrote:
The thing is that you can believe god created the big bang. But I really cannot see how the universe being existent proves god's existence.
If anything I find it incredibly arrogant to think that god created this unimaginably enormous universe for humans.

Perhaps,but I still don't buy it that he started the big bang even if it is one of the stumbling blocks of the theory. We've only really had the theory for what 90 years?still in it's infancy really and i'm sure one day that'll be covered by science aswell.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:

Oh sorry then.

I didn't pick it up as sarcasm.

Sarcasm? Rolo was spouting out another anti-faith 'fact'. So I denounced him.

Roloman4 wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sarcasm? Rolo was spouting out another anti-faith 'fact'. So I denounced him.

So I spew shit from my mouth because I believe that god doesn't exist?

I spew shit from my mouth because I denounce faith?

Really? REALLY? You call us the aggressive assholes!

REALLY!?

Roloman4 wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Sarcasm? Rolo was spouting out another anti-faith 'fact'. So I denounced him.

So I spew shit from my mouth because I believe that god doesn't exist?

I spew shit from my mouth because I denounce faith?

Really? REALLY? You call us the aggressive assholes!

REALLY!?

Roloman4 wrote:And why am I the enemy? Why are there enemies?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Roloman4 wrote:And why am I the enemy? Why are there enemies?

Because I regard you as such.

Roloman4 wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Because I regard you as such.

That is such an awesome mentality.

Cam wrote:Any enemy of Rolo is an enemy of me.