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nigga I love you but you aint gonna get a 95%

vel wrote:i've had such a brutal semester academically. i've skipped so many assignments just to maintain my grades and now my final exams are worth so much.

i've skipped around 4-5 "major" assignments this semester and copped out by just faking sick and getting a medical certificate from the Indian walk-in clinic. the last time I went they referred me to an Infections Disease specialist (i said i've had stomach pains for the past few weeks to keep a consistent story) and I was like WTF.

in one of my classes, my final exam is worth 70% of my final grade

That's completely normal.  In my first year my final exam was worth 100% of my final mark, following that it was worth 60%.  If you can't do it when the pressure's on then you're pretty much fucked anyway.

i forgot to mention that i rarely go to the lectures and i'm extremely behind in 3/4 of my classes. and my exams start Saturday (i know the material well), then i have 3 exams on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday (the classes I am behind on)

so yeah, pretty brutal tbh. i need to step up my work habits.

I know it's common to have exams worth 100%, but I think it's risky to willfully defer assignments.

vel wrote:i forgot to mention that i rarely go to the lectures and i'm extremely behind in 3/4 of my classes. and my exams start Saturday (i know the material well), then i have 3 exams on Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday (the classes I am behind on)

so yeah, pretty brutal tbh. i need to step up my work habits.

You'd be even more fucked if you had to do coursework.  Maybe on the exams you get lucky, across exams and coursework your chances of getting lucky are minimal.

Keyser Söze wrote:I know it's common to have exams worth 100%, but I think it's risky to willfully defer assignments.  

I would have been entirely happy fucking off all my assignments and going all in on exams.  If you're thick, excessively confident in your own ability or lazy it's highly beneficial to you, it's doing the coursework that's the risk because it's likely to bring your grade down.

That's an interesting grading system. Do you guys know if there is any data on the choices students make, i.e. going for the one shot with the final, or doing assignments to spread out the worth of the grade?

I would definitely do the coursework. It won't surprise you to learn that I am quite risk-averse, but I also like to learn things as part of my education. Cramming and fluking a decent grade isn't really rewarding for me.

Rei Andros wrote:That's an interesting grading system. Do you guys know if there is any data on the choices students make, i.e. going for the one shot with the final, or doing assignments to spread out the worth of the grade?

I've never known it to be a choice. It was always either a fall back option (ie. Your coursework is shit or you didn't do it) or the course was simply judged by an exam and coursework wasn't a factor. If Coursework were presented as optional I expect too few people would bother with it for it to be worth setting.

Glen Miller wrote:I would definitely do the coursework.  It won't surprise you to learn that I am quite risk-averse, but I also like to learn things as part of my education.  Cramming and fluking a decent grade isn't really rewarding for me.

I don't know where people are getting this idea of it being more risky. For a lot of people it's the least risky course.

For coursework you have a prolonged period of time to complete it. You have books, internet, teachers, fellow pupils etc.. So I'd say you have far more control to get a really high grade if you apply yourself. With exams you can revise like a pro and the majority of the time you'll get the grade you deserve, but there's always that chance you have a brain freeze during the test or your teacher throws a curveball of a question.

I like to have a mix of exams and coursework.

Coursework is obviously the least risky thing to do. What the fuck is wrong with you RR?

Keyser Söze wrote:That's how I found out and I'm pretty sure it is. I remember asking him about a year ago if he was Pakistani because of something he'd posted and he denied it a little too much so I had a feeling he was (or at least Muslim). Then his "FreePalestine" location and the incident when he defended Ozil so fervently for being a sinful Muslim pretty much confirmed it. It seems like adding "7" is his thing and why would you put a name like "Ahmed" if it wasn't yours? It's not a throwaway name like John or Bob, it's fairly specific.

I'm pretty sure I found his twitter account a few weeks ago.

You guys are such creeps

You have an account on Redcafe called Sarmz.

yeah but we're good friends so that's not a problem

you guys don't even know Cleveland and you guys dislike him (and vice versa)

I just came across it. Don't see whats creepy about that

aww you didn't even contest that i called us 'good friends'

luh u bae

PS: there is no way you just came across it

this is his Twitter account obviously, i just googled "Twitter Ahmed Hazard Taylor Swift"

https://twitter.com/BarakaElhaj

Nah, he posted his full name on this fantasy basketball thing. That's not him.

sarmz if i ask you 1 srs question can u answer honestly

Knowing what you think of as 'srs', no.

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vel wrote:Coursework is obviously the least risky thing to do. What the fuck is wrong with you RR?

Agreed. You are basically increasing the number of trials, so the experimental value will approach the true mean. Not doing the coursework just means you'll fall behind and the final exam will be tougher as a result.

no Glen you idiot

if you do more assignments your mark will not variate as much since the standard deviation of each quartile is relatively static, whereas if it is only a one-off thing there is a much higher risk of failure

vel wrote:no Glen you idiot

if you do more assignments your mark will not variate as much since the standard deviation of each quartile is relatively static, whereas if it is only a one-off thing there is a much higher risk of failure

Yeah, whatever.

fuk stats tbh lel

lmao i destroyed Glen and he's like "whatever"

Sometimes I wonder why I wasn't bullied more as a kid.

Keyser Söze wrote:For coursework you have a prolonged period of time to complete it. You have books, internet, teachers, fellow pupils etc.. So I'd say you have far more control to get a really high grade if you apply yourself. With exams you can revise like a pro and the majority of the time you'll get the grade you deserve, but there's always that chance you have a brain freeze during the test or your teacher throws a curveball of a question.

I like to have a mix of exams and coursework.

I don't get brain freezes, and I don't care about the grade I deserve, I want the best grade I can possibly get. If the teacher throws a curve ball of a question it could easily a good thing, because nobody will be expecting it and the standards will be lower. If you can think on your feet you're golden.

vel wrote:Coursework is obviously the least risky thing to do. What the fuck is wrong with you RR?

It depends if you're good at it or not. If you're shit at coursework, can't motivate yourself for it, can't get to grips with the referencing system , want to enjoy life instead of wasting it writing essays etc. then doing the coursework is the riskier thing because it means you need to perform above what you normally do to get the grade you want.

Glen Miller wrote:

vel wrote:Coursework is obviously the least risky thing to do. What the fuck is wrong with you RR?

Agreed.  You are basically increasing the number of trials, so the experimental value will approach the true mean.  

Exactly, if you're thick, that's exactly what you want, the more elements of random chance you can introduce into the procedure the better. Making it approach the true mean is the exact opposite of what you want.

Not to get all mathy here, but assuming your grades are going to follow a normal distribution is bad. (Even if you make that jump, smaller sample sizes increase the probability of extreme values.) Better to assume that it's a long tailed distribution, and minimize the risk of getting fucked by doing all the coursework.

Rei Andros wrote:Not to get all mathy here, but assuming your grades are going to follow a normal distribution is bad. (Even if you make that jump, smaller sample sizes increase the probability of extreme values.) Better to assume that it's a long tailed distribution, and minimize the risk of getting fucked by doing all the coursework.

If you know you're not smart enough to get the grades you want on merit then you want an extreme value, because there's a 50% chance that extremely value will favour you and you'll get the grades you want. If you do as many tests as possible you increase the chances of getting a grade that's in line with your ability, for a lot of people that's not a good thing.