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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat May 31, 2014 7:24 pm

    Scott_LFC wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:It's good to see Liverpool have learnt absolutely nothing from the Dalglish era.  Appoint a manager who Liverpool fans think is an inspirational god in human form, but everyone else thinks is a total cunt, enjoy one relatively successful season, then cede full control to him and give him a load of money to waste on English shit.  

    I expect this transfer window will end with Liverpool selling Suarez for £50m, the price for Lambert rocketing up to £35m, and Rodgers defending it by saying Lambert actually cost minus £15m so he's a pretty good signing.

    I wouldn't go as far as calling Lallana and Lambert "English shit".

    I've always been a bit pessimistic about us signing Lallana, especially for £25 million, but to be fair to him, he's looked a class act for Southampton and he got into the PFA team of the year. He also looks a class above several of his teammates when playing for England and that includes Rooney and Welbeck.

    As for Lambert, like I've already said before in this thread, we are basically signing the English equivalent of Arsenal's best striker, as a 3rd/4th choice option for a measly £4 million.

    I don't think either of those can be compared to spending £20 million on Downing or £35 million on Carroll. You're scraping the barrel, RR.

    Reading your posts these days is pretty much like reading what you want to happen, as opposed to what will actually happen. It's like you're trying to convince yourself, more than anything.

    Weren't you raving about Stewart Downing's amazing statistics that suggested he was the best creative player in the league a few years ago? A class above Rooney, Jesus.

    He's playing for Southampton, a team who haven't had a big game in years who always play under no pressure. It's going to be a bit fucking different for him when you're playing in the Champions League or fighting for a Champions League spot. I don't know if you've realised yet, but there's an enormous tax on British players.

    Lambert is past his best and his statistics will plummet if he does't take penalties. Rodriguez is a much better footballer.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sat May 31, 2014 7:48 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    I wouldn't go as far as calling Lallana and Lambert "English shit".

    I've always been a bit pessimistic about us signing Lallana, especially for £25 million, but to be fair to him, he's looked a class act for Southampton and he got into the PFA team of the year. He also looks a class above several of his teammates when playing for England and that includes Rooney and Welbeck.

    As for Lambert, like I've already said before in this thread, we are basically signing the English equivalent of Arsenal's best striker, as a 3rd/4th choice option for a measly £4 million.

    I don't think either of those can be compared to spending £20 million on Downing or £35 million on Carroll. You're scraping the barrel, RR.

    Reading your posts these days is pretty much like reading what you want to happen, as opposed to what will actually happen. It's like you're trying to convince yourself, more than anything.

    Weren't you raving about Stewart Downing's amazing statistics that suggested he was the best creative player in the league a few years ago?  A class above Rooney, Jesus.

    He's playing for Southampton, a team who haven't had a big game in years who always play under no pressure.  It's going to be a bit fucking different for him when you're playing in the Champions League or fighting for a Champions League spot.  I don't know if you've realised yet, but there's an enormous tax on British players.

    Lambert is past his best and his statistics will plummet if he does't take penalties.  Rodriguez is a much better footballer.

    Wayne Rooney is past it and Welbeck is Bambi on ice. United cannot entice big players anymore and will certainly finish outside of the top 4 again.

    See, I can do it too.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sat May 31, 2014 7:51 pm

    Vela wrote:That's a team for the Champions League? rofl

    What? Yes, of course. That squad is probably better than half of the teams in the CL. It's not good enough to win it, but it's good enough for it, Christ.
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    Post by Keyser Söze Sat May 31, 2014 7:58 pm

    No way both Agger and Skrtel will be bench players. One will leave.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sat May 31, 2014 8:23 pm

    Keyser Söze wrote:No way both Agger and Skrtel will be bench players. One will leave.

    Meant to put Agger/Skrtel.

    Agger will probably leave if we sign Lovren.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat May 31, 2014 8:26 pm

    Scott_LFC wrote:
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    Weren't you raving about Stewart Downing's amazing statistics that suggested he was the best creative player in the league a few years ago?  A class above Rooney, Jesus.

    He's playing for Southampton, a team who haven't had a big game in years who always play under no pressure.  It's going to be a bit fucking different for him when you're playing in the Champions League or fighting for a Champions League spot.  I don't know if you've realised yet, but there's an enormous tax on British players.

    Lambert is past his best and his statistics will plummet if he does't take penalties.  Rodriguez is a much better footballer.

    Wayne Rooney is past it and Welbeck is Bambi on ice. United cannot entice big players anymore and will certainly finish outside of the top 4 again.

    See, I can do it too.

    Except Rooney is 28, and your last point is demonstrably untrue given that the last time the transfer window was open we signed the best player in the League from the previous season. Welbeck, yeah, he's shit.
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    Post by Zzonked Sat May 31, 2014 9:53 pm

    Rooney still has a lot to offer, but I reckon when we look back his best years will be 09/10 or 11/12. Have you ever noticed that in the past 5 seasons, the 3 where Rooney played at his absolute best United didn't win the league? I'm not saying that as a criticism of him, I just always thought it was odd.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat May 31, 2014 10:43 pm

    Zzonked wrote:Rooney still has a lot to offer, but I reckon when we look back his best years will be 09/10 or 11/12. Have you ever noticed that in the past 5 seasons, the 3 where Rooney played at his absolute best United didn't win the league? I'm not saying that as a criticism of him, I just always thought it was odd.

    What about in 2011 when he won us the title and got us to the Champions League Final, scoring against the greatest team of all time and making the world xi?
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    Post by Zzonked Sat May 31, 2014 11:14 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Zzonked wrote:Rooney still has a lot to offer, but I reckon when we look back his best years will be 09/10 or 11/12. Have you ever noticed that in the past 5 seasons, the 3 where Rooney played at his absolute best United didn't win the league? I'm not saying that as a criticism of him, I just always thought it was odd.

    What about in 2011 when he won us the title and got us to the Champions League Final, scoring against the greatest team of all time and making the world xi?

    I just don't feel like that was individually one of his best, he scored like double the goals of that season in the one before and after it. The world xi place is by calendar year, so that misses out the start of that season and adds in the end of the next. Good form at the end of that season and good form at the start of the next doesn't mean 10/11 was necessarily that consistent overall.

    He may have had a big impact in that season due to turning up at the right times though.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Sat May 31, 2014 11:19 pm

    What's your point about it?  If you're saying it's an odd coincidence then I agree with you, it is a coincidence, but trying to draw anything more out of it is grasping at straws.
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    Post by Glen Miller Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:16 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Scott_LFC wrote:

    I wouldn't go as far as calling Lallana and Lambert "English shit".

    I've always been a bit pessimistic about us signing Lallana, especially for £25 million, but to be fair to him, he's looked a class act for Southampton and he got into the PFA team of the year. He also looks a class above several of his teammates when playing for England and that includes Rooney and Welbeck.

    As for Lambert, like I've already said before in this thread, we are basically signing the English equivalent of Arsenal's best striker, as a 3rd/4th choice option for a measly £4 million.

    I don't think either of those can be compared to spending £20 million on Downing or £35 million on Carroll. You're scraping the barrel, RR.

    Reading your posts these days is pretty much like reading what you want to happen, as opposed to what will actually happen. It's like you're trying to convince yourself, more than anything.

    Weren't you raving about Stewart Downing's amazing statistics that suggested he was the best creative player in the league a few years ago?  A class above Rooney, Jesus.

    He's playing for Southampton, a team who haven't had a big game in years who always play under no pressure.  It's going to be a bit fucking different for him when you're playing in the Champions League or fighting for a Champions League spot.  I don't know if you've realised yet, but there's an enormous tax on British players.

    Lambert is past his best and his statistics will plummet if he does't take penalties.  Rodriguez is a much better footballer.
    Scott said "when they play for England," which is true, Rooney has looked awful for England in the time since Lallana has arrived. The Stewart Downing comparison isn't fair at all and I don't see the relevance, one is a player who relies on a decent level of skill and has some creativity, the other was literally signed to be a fast man who would cross as often as possible.  He's overpriced, but he's not "English crap."

    I agree about the next two parts, but what's your point about Rodriguez?  He would have been expensive, unwilling to ride the bench, and is just coming back from a bad injury.  Lambert's not great, but I can understand (while not necessarily agreeing) with the need to sign an older player who is willing to give Sturridge a break at the end of matches and in the MM Cups.
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    Post by Zzonked Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:29 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:What's your point about it?  If you're saying it's an odd coincidence then I agree with you, it is a coincidence, but trying to draw anything more out of it is grasping at straws.

    I didn't really have a point, I'm not even sure there is one. It is just an odd coincidence.

    He probably should have won the league in 11/12 when he played his best, it took a pretty bad run at the end to not make it so.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:59 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    Wayne Rooney is past it and Welbeck is Bambi on ice. United cannot entice big players anymore and will certainly finish outside of the top 4 again.

    See, I can do it too.

    Except Rooney is 28, and your last point is demonstrably untrue given that the last time the transfer window was open we signed the best player in the League from the previous season.  Welbeck, yeah, he's shit.

    Well, that went right over your head.

    I was doing a "RR" and saying things I want to happen/wish were true as fact. It was a rushed version, so maybe it didn't come across as it should have done.
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    Post by Grenade Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:42 am

    LFC don't even need Lambert, you have Borini who is only slightly inferior and like 10 years younger.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:19 am

    Grenade wrote:LFC don't even need Lambert, you have Borini who is only slightly inferior and like 10 years younger.

    We'll be selling either 1 of Borini (who we won't sell unless we can recoup the £12 million we spent on him) or Aspas, so yes, we do need him. Need 4 strikers.
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    Post by Grenade Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:58 am

    Scott_LFC wrote:
    Grenade wrote:LFC don't even need Lambert, you have Borini who is only slightly inferior and like 10 years younger.

    We'll be selling either 1 of Borini (who we won't sell unless we can recoup the £12 million we spent on him) or Aspas, so yes, we do need him. Need 4 strikers.

    Lambert = 1 or 2 years of service. Borini = at least 8 years. If Liverpool get over £10m for Borini then I suppose it's a good deal but who's gonna pay that?
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    Post by Scott_LFC Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:47 am

    Grenade wrote:
    Scott_LFC wrote:

    We'll be selling either 1 of Borini (who we won't sell unless we can recoup the £12 million we spent on him) or Aspas, so yes, we do need him. Need 4 strikers.

    Lambert = 1 or 2 years of service. Borini = at least 8 years. If Liverpool get over £10m for Borini then I suppose it's a good deal but who's gonna pay that?

    Suarez, Sturridge, Lambert and Borini > Suarez, Sturridge and Borini.
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    Post by Grenade Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:25 am

    Suarez, Sturridge, Bendtner and Borini > Suarez, Sturridge and Borini.
    Bendtner is a free agent.
    Bendtner is younger.
    Bendnter is a god amongst men.

    All hail Lord Bendtner  not worthy
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    Post by Scott_LFC Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:27 am

    Apparently we're after a Barcelona player, but not Fabregas.

    Rumblings of Pedro or Sanchez.

    Would love either one.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:44 am

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    Post by Keyser Söze Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:17 am

    I remember a few months ago saying on EA that I'd love Pedro at Arsenal and everyone in the Arsenal thread disagreed. Excellent player, but I think Barcelona rate him highly since he's never heavily linked with a move away.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:34 am

    People on RAWK are so annoying. Like these:

    "Last year we were targeting Capel, Atsu etc, this year it's Pedro/Sanchez/Shaqiri. Loving it."

    "Good days getting linked with players like Sanchez, Pedro , Fabregas. Remember getting linked to Scott dann and Carlton cole and Diame "

    "Look at you guys talking about the Pedro's and Sanchez's of this world. Feels much better than trying to convince yourself Downing is a good signing. Welcome back to the big time LFC!"

    What the fuck? What about when we were linked to/made bids for Mkhitaryan, Willian, Eriksen, Costa, etc?

    What about signing Sturridge, Coutinho and Sakho?

    Dumb fucks.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:21 am

    Good signing although considering how shite we are at defending I didn't expect our first summer signing to be a striker Laughing
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:30 am

    Southampton now want £30 Million for Adam Lallana according to Tony Barrett Laughing Think its time for us to pull out and look elsewhere. Or leave it to Lallana to push for a move.
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    Post by Scott_LFC Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:34 am

    Barrett: LFC have been made aware of Fabregas’ availability but prefer Alexis Sanchez.

    Southampton not budging on their £30 million valuation of Lallana, so we're looking elsewhere now, apparently. Sanchez and Shaqiri.
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:38 am

    I doubt we'll get Sanchez. Most likely be someone like Shaqiri.
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    Post by Mason19294828838822 Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:49 am

    £30m Laughing
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    Post by El_indian Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:20 pm

    there is some lovely artwork of Suarez on this page: http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/10984370/portrait-serial-winner-luis-suarez-soccer-most-beautiful-player
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    Post by Scott_LFC Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:02 pm

    Lambert confirmed on the official site.

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    Look at him rofl Living the dream right now. Can't even imagine how he must be feeling.

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