Bayern Munich vs Arsenal

Mason19294828838822 wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Have you never rewatched the game?  Shevchenko had a goal wrongly disallowed for offside in the first half, Smicer's goal was wrongly awarded even though the assistant raised his flag, Gerrard dived to win a penalty and Dudek's encroachment and unsporting conduct on the penalties was allowed to go unpunished.  If you are prepared to resort to cheating and enjoy incredible luck from a referee you can overcome a better team.  If you don't get the luck, try not to cheat and you're tactically inept you have no chance.

He only supported Liverpool from 2007.

I've been a Liverpool fan since I was 11/12. The first trophy I saw us win (as a die hard fan) was the Worthington Cup against Man United. Prior to that, I was a casual fan, but my Stepdad and my friends slowly got me really into football.

Arsenal are going backwards and Liverpool are going forward as club.

I would put money on Liverpool advancing further than Arsenal in the Champions League next season.

Scott_LFC wrote:That's not how I remember it at all. I remember Arsenal fans saying they'd easily finish 1st or 2nd in the group. Particularly Theo.

I don't care how you remember it since you've remembered it wrong. Theo was the only one that was confident.

Scott_LFC wrote: Either way, that's not really the point I am making. I don't care what the fans expect.

Really?   Then why say this

Scott_LFC wrote:And yet, every season, Arsenal think they can win the Champion's League

Scott_LFC wrote: just highlighting Arsenal's mental frailty in the Champion's League knock-out stages.

I don't see any mental frailty. In the past we've had massive and unlikely results vs Madrid, Inter, Milan, Barcelona and Bayern. These last 5 seasons we haven't gone that far in the competition because we've had 4 ties in the last 5 seasons against the best team in the world early on and even then the results have been close and in some cases under extreme circumstances.

Ozil out for a few weeks - Wenger

Scott_LFC wrote:Yeah, and I see that as having 4 chances to pull of an upset and progress to the latter stages, and 4 failures. Weak mentality. Back when we were in the Champion's League, from 05-09, we were consistently pulling off upsets. Yet you seem to use the "they are a better team than us" as an excuse for always being knocked out early? Come on.

No you didn't    Even we had a few good results during that period, doesn't mean you or us "consistently pulled off upsets"    What warped and deluded version of events.

You don't really seem to grasp what caring about something means. I don't care what Arsenal fans think, but it's still funny to know that they think they can win the CL every year.
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It's mental frailty, no matter how you try to spin it. You can see it in the way they play football. Like tonight, they were unable to string 4 passes together, when normally, they're one of the best passing sides in the world.

Man City managed to beat Bayern. You beat them last season, but lacked the mental edge to jump over the last hurdle and score the 3rd.

Keyser Söze wrote:

Scott_LFC wrote:Yeah, and I see that as having 4 chances to pull of an upset and progress to the latter stages, and 4 failures. Weak mentality. Back when we were in the Champion's League, from 05-09, we were consistently pulling off upsets. Yet you seem to use the "they are a better team than us" as an excuse for always being knocked out early? Come on.

No you didn't    Even we had a few good results during that period, doesn't mean you or us "consistently pulled off upsets"    What warped and deluded version of events.  

Yes we did. We got to 2 finals. We beat Real Madrid home and away, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea (on several occasions), Arsenal, Juventus, etc.

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan 9 mins
BREAKING: Ozil out 'for a few weeks' with hamstring injury. Great. Rounds off a miserable day. I'm going to work...while I still have a job.

Is this true?

Scott_LFC wrote:You don't really seem to grasp what caring about something means. I don't care what Arsenal fans think, but it's still funny to know that they think they can win the CL every year.
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It's mental frailty, no matter how you try to spin it. You can see it in the way they play football. Like tonight, they were unable to string 4 passes together, when normally, they're one of the best passing sides in the world.

Man City managed to beat Bayern. You beat them last season, but lacked the mental edge to jump over the last hurdle and score the 3rd.

Doesn't care yet posts a comment about it and finds it funny   Yeah, I don't grasp the concept. Having learned of your education history I'm starting to understand why you're so dim.  

City lacked the mental (and mathematical) strength to find a 4th goal and get over the last hurdle so they aren't an example that proves your point.

We aren't even the best passing side in the BPL let alone the CL in which we are miles off

Scott_LFC wrote:Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan  9 mins
BREAKING: Ozil out 'for a few weeks' with hamstring injury. Great. Rounds off a miserable day. I'm going to work...while I still have a job.

Is this true?

Yes I posted it a few posts up you buffoon.

The penalty Liverpool should have had in the first half was a handball by Nesta as he tried to slide tackle Garcia.

Scott_LFC wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:

No you didn't    Even we had a few good results during that period, doesn't mean you or us "consistently pulled off upsets"    What warped and deluded version of events.  

Yes we did. We got to 2 finals. We beat Real Madrid home and away, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea (on several occasions), Arsenal, Juventus, etc.

Out of how many games?    We had equally good results and whilst we didn't get to two finals at least we weren't totally embarrassed by minnows like you were in your last CL season   

Jesus, you are mind-numbingly boring. I stick by what I said. Arsenal are the bottle kings of Europe and they've yet to prove me wrong.

Keyser Söze wrote:

Scott_LFC wrote:

Yes we did. We got to 2 finals. We beat Real Madrid home and away, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Chelsea (on several occasions), Arsenal, Juventus, etc.

Out of how many games?    We had equally good results and whilst we didn't get to two finals at least we weren't totally embarrassed by minnows like you were in your last CL season     

We were shit a shit team in Rafa's last season. We finished 7th in the League. No shit we got beaten by minnows.

Oh no, Arsenal and Arsene Wenger haven't proved Scott wrong!

Keyser Söze wrote:Oh no, Arsenal and Arsene Wenger haven't proved Scott wrong!

Correct.

Scott and Keyzer Soze is a fantastic rivalry. Similar to the Jela and Maestro one.

Mason19294828838822 wrote:Scott and Keyzer Soze is a fantastic rivalry. Similar to the Jela and Maestro one.

Wouldn't call it a rivalry, tbh. He's just a little boy who's obsessed with me.

Scott_LFC wrote:

Mason19294828838822 wrote:Scott and Keyzer Soze is a fantastic rivalry. Similar to the Jela and Maestro one.

Wouldn't call it a rivalry, tbh. He's just obsessed with me.

Agreed. I wish had a degree in Media Production.

Example:

He finishes watching his beloved Arsenal get knocked out of the CL. What's the first thing he does? Does he talk about the match? Does he reflect?

No, the first thing he does is dart in here and quote me, posting the emoticon.

Obsessed.

In fact, I can't seem to post anything without him popping up. I post about Liverpool, he says something. I post about money, he says something. I post about the Malaysian plane, he says something, I post about my PS4, he says something

It's actually quite weird. Never known someone to be so fixated on me.

Who wouldn't be obsessed with you?

 

Keyser Söze wrote:Who wouldn't be obsessed with you?

Normal, sane people who don't feel the desperate need to follow me around like a puppy.

You lead such a great life. Everyone strives to get a degree in media production, work at Argos and then constantly boast (with ATM pictures) about their £10K life savings on an internet forum.

Wenger has said he's out for a few weeks by the looks of things.

I did say that Ozil would have a muscle injury at some point.

Keyser Söze wrote:You lead such a great life. Everyone strives to get a degree in media production, work at Argos and then constantly boast (with ATM pictures) about their £10K life savings on an internet forum.

Haha, what's this? You're trying to unleash some completely unrelated, personal attacks now? Didn't realise I was upsetting you that much. You're just proving my point now, tbh. You clearly have an unhealthy obsession with me.

Scott_LFC wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:You lead such a great life. Everyone strives to get a degree in media production, work at Argos and then constantly boast (with ATM pictures) about their £10K life savings on an internet forum.

Haha, what's this? You're trying to unleash some completely unrelated, personal attacks now? :lol:Didn't realise I was upsetting you that much. You're just proving my point now, tbh. You clearly have an unhealthy obsession with me.

Unrelated, you mean much like you were? We were talking about the CL and then you randomly call me obsessed and diverted the whole topic of discussion.

And are they personal attacks? I thought this was all fake information I made up?   Or have you finally realized how pathetic that was of you  

Scott_LFC wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
We don't expect to win the CL, if you look back at the thread on this forum when the group stage draw was made then you'll see almost all of us thought we'd finish 3rd and no one thought we would even get a draw in either leg vs Bayern let alone win the tie. Also, you're bringing one-off examples that happened years ago   Don't you understand that these results aren't likely? We've had a few "1st English team to win here" moments in the CL.

That's not how I remember it at all. I remember Arsenal fans saying they'd easily finish 1st or 2nd in the group. Particularly Theo.

Either way, that's not really the point I am making. I don't care what the fans expect. I'm just highlighting Arsenal's mental frailty in the Champion's League knock-out stages.

I said we'd qualify pretty easily, correctly. But most Arsenal fans didn't.

I really don't see how you can put losing to a better team down to "bottle".  As excuses go "the other team is much better than us" is a pretty fucking good one in my estimation, and the fact that other teams have sometimes got lucky and taken advantage of that to cause upsets doesn't change that.