It was really strange, I don't know if I enjoyed it or disliked it
It seemed kinda predictable. You just like knew what would happen in the movie
As good as Finchers other films?SBSP wrote:Gone Girl is very good.
SBSP wrote:Not as good as Social Network. I prefer Zodiac and Fight Club as well, but Gone Girl isn't too far behind.
SBSP wrote:Gay
SBSP wrote:Anyone seen Interstellar yet?
Ra's al Ghul wrote:SBSP wrote:Anyone seen Interstellar yet?
Yes. It's great in parts and not so great in others. Very different from his other films. Needs to be seen twice, it's extremely dense.
Glen Miller wrote:That just sounds like poor planning on your part, to be honest. Did you expect to be tucked in bed by midnight after watching a 10:30 showing?
Exactly. A simple Google search would have settled it as well. Amateur hour.SBSP wrote:Chris Nolan doesn't do regular length movies.
Keyser Söze wrote:Ra's al Ghul wrote:
Yes. It's great in parts and not so great in others. Very different from his other films. Needs to be seen twice, it's extremely dense.
Fully agree.
What parts didn't you like? I read your comment and some less than perfect reviews and went into it not expecting it to be as good as his other films but I thought it really good, certainly not worse than his other films.
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I didn't like how overly sentimental it got during the tesseract, the whole "love guided me" seemed stupid and a cheap cop out
Did you watch it in IMAX?
Ra's al Ghul wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:
Fully agree.
What parts didn't you like? I read your comment and some less than perfect reviews and went into it not expecting it to be as good as his other films but I thought it really good, certainly not worse than his other films.
However:
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I didn't like how overly sentimental it got during the tesseract, the whole "love guided me" seemed stupid and a cheap cop out
Did you watch it in IMAX?
I've seen it twice now and I enjoyed my second viewing significantly more. The first time I was trying so hard to keep up with the scientific jargon and all the plot developments that I didn't really connect with the emotional core. Second time I just allowed myself to get swept away in the experience and I found it kind of beautiful.
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Some of the issues remain such as the final ten minutes which I believe were unnecessary. Cooper and Murphy's arcs were completed in the tesseract scene, that's where it should have ended. The parts on earth with Jessica Chastain and Casey Affleck were uninteresting to me and I thought that the cross-cutting between Cooper's fight with Mann and Murphy burning the crops was somewhat jarring. I actually didn't find the 'love' stuff to be grating as some have. I guess there's a stigma surrounding the idea of love in films and it comes off as sappy but the film does well to show how it could be perceived as something quantifiable so I went along with it. The real problem I had with the tesseract scene was Cooper explaining out loud everything that was happening. It seems like such a contrast to 2001's final scene where everything is communicated visually. But that's often the problem with Nolan, he's trying to balance his art-house sensibilities with mainstream appeal. That scene was already pretty weird and I'm sure a lot of the general audience will have been lost by it even with the over-explanation.
No, I didn't see it in IMAX.
Ra's al Ghul wrote:Second time I just allowed myself to get swept away in the experience and I found it kind of beautiful.
Keyser Söze wrote:Ra's al Ghul wrote:
I've seen it twice now and I enjoyed my second viewing significantly more. The first time I was trying so hard to keep up with the scientific jargon and all the plot developments that I didn't really connect with the emotional core. Second time I just allowed myself to get swept away in the experience and I found it kind of beautiful.
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Some of the issues remain such as the final ten minutes which I believe were unnecessary. Cooper and Murphy's arcs were completed in the tesseract scene, that's where it should have ended. The parts on earth with Jessica Chastain and Casey Affleck were uninteresting to me and I thought that the cross-cutting between Cooper's fight with Mann and Murphy burning the crops was somewhat jarring. I actually didn't find the 'love' stuff to be grating as some have. I guess there's a stigma surrounding the idea of love in films and it comes off as sappy but the film does well to show how it could be perceived as something quantifiable so I went along with it. The real problem I had with the tesseract scene was Cooper explaining out loud everything that was happening. It seems like such a contrast to 2001's final scene where everything is communicated visually. But that's often the problem with Nolan, he's trying to balance his art-house sensibilities with mainstream appeal. That scene was already pretty weird and I'm sure a lot of the general audience will have been lost by it even with the over-explanation.
No, I didn't see it in IMAX.
The detail in which they went into about relativity, wormholes, time and gravity was one of the best parts of the film for me. I've never seen a film do it so well and so maturely.
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I'm glad that Murph and Cooper met up again, it might have been sappy but I liked the "I knew you were coming back because my Dad made a promise". Felt like closure. But I do see your point, in the tesseract they basically resolved the ghost thing and resolved the feelings Murph had towards her Dad showing her finally coming to terms with him actually leaving to save the the world and not just to abandon them as she had thought for so long.
I also didn't like the stuff with Murph and her brother and his family, seemed kinda forced and pointless. I get that she needed to be in her room so that her Dad could send her the data but the whole part with testing their lungs and evacuating them was pointless.
No, it's not that I found the love stuff sappy it's just the way they explained it seemed like a cop out when compared to everything else. Like you said they over explained most of the scientific stuff, but when they set-up the idea of love when Brand was talking about her connection to Edmund's planet she explained it very obscurely and fantastically and all she said was that it was quantifiable but she didn't really explain how or why. If she'd said something like "the feeling that we call "love" is just a release of chemicals in the brain and we can develop methods to tap into the brain (like antidepressant medication) and heighten the release of those chemicals" then that would have been fine. But I get the feeling that they didn't want to go down the scientific route with love because 80% of their audience properly aren't the type that want realistic scientific explanations for love and that whole "mystical love drew me here" would most likely resonate with them better, like you said with Nolan trying to do with mainstream appeal. I felt a little like it didn't fit in with what the film was trying to do.
So when did you think the movie should have finished? Because that didn't really take up all of the last 15 minutes, more like about 5.Zzonked wrote:
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I didn't think the extra 15 minutes they devoted to getting Cooper back to Murphy at the end was worth the payoff. I didn't even think it was sappy, it just fell flat for me. They had a little hug and then she was all like, 'now buzz off I'm gonna die with ma kids.'
Ra's al Ghul wrote:
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I think the love stuff is supposed to be inexplicable. They attempt to depict love as a force that can transcend dimensions in the same way that gravity can. Brand feels an urge to go to Edmund's planet even though Mann's planet is objectively a more secure bet. This attraction remains regardless of the galaxy she's in. To us and to Cooper this comes off as incomprehensible because love or intuition cannot be measured or quantified. What the film suggests is that it is, however we merely cannot comprehend it through our three dimensional world, just like we can't perceive time as a physical entity. It is a physical force and it is why Murphy returns and checks her watch. It only seems mystical because we don't understand it. Ultimately it comes down to whether you find such a theory plausible. Most cynics won't which is why some are being dismissive. I went with it because it was emotionally affecting.