Building a gaming PC

They are looking into the possibility of just sending me a replacement front plate so I don't have to send anything back.

Here's the pics:

Spoiler:

I can't use my TV as a second screen yet because I only have one display cable.

Looking to build a gaming pc to run GTA4 on high settings with mods, would the £300 build in that video be enough for this? I'd prefer it to be future proof because I want to buy GTA5 and run mods on that too when its released.

http://support.rockstargames.com/entries/479435-pc-system-requirements-for-gta-iv

Price check all that mate.

Bushido wrote:http://support.rockstargames.com/entries/479435-pc-system-requirements-for-gta-iv

Price check all that mate.

That is def not gonna run GTA 4 on high settings + mods.

Grenade wrote:Looking to build a gaming pc to run GTA4 on high settings with mods, would the £300 build in that video be enough for this? I'd prefer it to be future proof because I want to buy GTA5 and run mods on that too when its released.

Wgat video?

What's the point of a gaming PC? srs question

I've done absolutely nothing to my PC yet Football Manager runs just fine.

I also don't see the point in putting the amounts of money that you do into it when you could easily just play these games of PS3 or Xbox

Forest wrote:What's the point of a gaming PC? srs question

I've done absolutely nothing to my PC yet Football Manager runs just fine.

I also don't see the point in putting the amounts of money that you do into it when you could easily just play these games of PS3 or Xbox

I can afford it.. I can't play most of the games I play on the Xbox/PS3, also games like BF3 ect are so much more better on a good gaming rig than 30fps Xbox/PS3.

Forest wrote:What's the point of a gaming PC? srs question

I've done absolutely nothing to my PC yet Football Manager runs just fine.

I also don't see the point in putting the amounts of money that you do into it when you could easily just play these games of PS3 or Xbox

Any laptop/pc that you buy in the shops today, can play Football Manager.

Games on PS3/Xbox are in 480P (30FPS) and upscaled, you can play games in native 1080P (200+FPS) on a good PC.

There's a reason why consoles are a laughing stock of the gaming world, their graphics are horrendous and the chances are, they won't look much better in the new consoles. Better than the current, but nowhere near PC.

The difference is actually pretty hilarious, and that's with an updates texture pack on console (which isn't available to us).



*FPS = Frames Per Second, Forest.

Forest wrote:What's the point of a gaming PC? srs question

The clue is in the name.

I've done absolutely nothing to my PC yet Football Manager runs just fine.

Football Manager isn't graphically intensive in the slightest. All you really need is a processor that isn't completely shit and it'll run.

I also don't see the point in putting the amounts of money that you do into it when you could easily just play these games of PS3 or Xbox

In the long run PC gaming is usually cheaper provided you don't do something stupid like buy an Alienware or something. Making the initial build will cost a bit if you don't already have a desktop, but from then on you'll really only be upgrading the motherboard, processor and graphics card, as well as other components as they fail which wont be often. It's cheaper because games are cheaper, you don't have to pay extra to play online (granted neither do PS3 users) and it's a computer so you're going to be spending money on one anyway. The last point is vital and a lot of people never seem to take it into account. There's also that fact that consoles (this generation in particular) are prone to failing, then you have to splash out even more on a new one.

As for easily playing them on consoles, you obviously can't play PC exclusives, and those you can play as Jela said are locked at 30 fps, upscaled from shit resolutions and look pretty bad in comparison.

Yeah I don't think YouTube video's do the PC games justice, you have to see the difference in person.

PC has also Steam (ridiculously cheap games).

You can also quite easily hook up a controller and play with that.

El_indian wrote:You can also quite easily hook up a controller and play with that.

I play all of my PC games with a PS3 controller.

Forest wrote:What's the point of a gaming PC? srs question

I'd say the two biggest incentives are graphics/frame rate and the ability to mod games. FIFA for example is a much more enjoyable game when you can mod things like the Champions League, Europa, realistic scoreboards, amount of fouls that get called, AI style of play, budgets, realistic transfers, realistic player growth, etc. Graphically the consoles don't even come close, and you can easily record gameplay at the highest available quality with programs like Fraps, etc.

Processing speed is another massive advantage for the PC. I usually play FM with a lot of leagues and large database, which takes quite a while to load/process on my Macbook, but on my PC its incredibly streamlined.

The disadvantage is that there are far fewer online players for PC, depending on what game you are trying to play. But then again, you can play stuff like the ARMA mod games on PC which you can't find anywhere else in the console world.

You can't enjoy this on consoles.

Grenade wrote:

You can't enjoy this on consoles.

Fuck it gonna build a gaming pc slowly over the winter. I'm going to slowly start getting parts, first of with the case.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SATURN-RED-LED-ATX-GAMING-PC-TOWER-COMPUTER-CASE-CLEAR-WINDOW-750W-PSU-/110822555514?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item19cd89ff7a

Was thinking about getting this are they good? It looks good but might also be shit quality. I'm assuming the power supply it comes with is good enough for gaming

You should probably get components from a recognized brand, don't think you wanna be buying dodgy power supplies..

You can get a good idea of brands here (they have the best user reviews/ratings IMO):

http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Hardware/Store

Cases: http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Cases/SubCategory/ID-7

Don't slowly get parts over the course of a year (CPU, motherboard, GPU).....Save up and buy them together...This way you can buy the best parts for your money at that time.

Bye_Ya wrote:

El_indian wrote:You can also quite easily hook up a controller and play with that.

I play all of my PC games with a PS3 controller.

DO you use MotioninJoy?

El_indian wrote:

Bye_Ya wrote:

I play all of my PC games with a PS3 controller.

DO you use MotioninJoy?

Yeah it a great piece of software.

Unfortunately the guy seemed to give up on it a while ago....it still works fine but he just stopped making changes.

I wish i could make something like that....i would make it amazing.

The graphics card I bought now comes with the new Tomb Raider and BioShock Infinite. A few days before it came with Far Cry 3, Sleeping Dogs, Hitman and a bunch of others. I got nothing.

El_indian wrote:You should probably get components from a recognized brand, don't think you wanna be buying dodgy power supplies..

You can get a good idea of brands here (they have the best user reviews/ratings IMO):

http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Hardware/Store

Cases: http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Cases/SubCategory/ID-7

Don't slowly get parts over the course of a year (CPU, motherboard, GPU).....Save up and buy them together...This way you can buy the best parts for your money at that time.

Newegg have better prices than any UK sellers I've seen. Would they be able to ship to the UK? If not who are some good UK based online sellers like Newegg? I'll get the main parts to run the computer first and then add on any extra fans, drives and peripherals as I need them. Is it true that the i5 processor is near the same as i7 for gaming?

www.scan.co.uk
www.overclockers.co.uk
www.aria.co.uk
www.novatech.co.uk
www.ebuyer.com
www.dabs.com
www.cclonline.com

Amazon & Ebay can be decent too.

Scan is probably the best looking/most user friendly layout.

Grenade wrote:Newegg have better prices than any UK sellers I've seen. Would they be able to ship to the UK? If not who are some good UK based online sellers like Newegg? I'll get the main parts to run the computer first and then add on any extra fans, drives and peripherals as I need them. Is it true that the i5 processor is near the same as i7 for gaming?

Yes, the i5 3570K has more than enough CPU power for gaming. You don't need an i7.

I don't know anything about UK retailers, Jela will know more.

Templeton7|RFC wrote:www.scan.co.uk
www.overclockers.co.uk
www.aria.co.uk
www.novatech.co.uk
www.ebuyer.com
www.dabs.com
www.cclonline.com

Amazon & Ebay can be decent too.

Scan is probably the best looking/most user friendly layout.

Scan are expensive for delivery charges.

Just use google shopping and look for no delivery charges plus five star places.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overclocked-Core-i5-3570K-TO-4-6GHZ-ASUS-P8Z77-V-LX-CORSAIR-8GB-DDR3-1600-/120905759420?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item1c268b7abc

Is this a good deal?

I looked up the prices for each component on amazon UK and you could save about 20 pounds if you brought each piece separately.

You may even find it cheaper elsewhere.

Of course you won't get the overclock, but do you really need it? You could just learn to do it yourself...? It will probably be more fun.

What are you going to be doing with the computer? What games are you gonna be playing?

Also you could probably do with a better cooler than that one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106184

Not sure how that thing will handle an overclock.

GTA 4 with some heavy graphics mods. GTA 5 too when it releases but they said it will need only slightly better hardware than GTA4 because it runs the same engine? L4D and a few other newish games. I'd prefer to run them on high settings. Is there a high risk of me messing up the computer if I overclock it?

If you follow a guide you should be fine...

You just need to monitor your CPU temperatures.

Most of the better motherboards allow for really easy overclocking these days.

Maybe Royal will know more...