Building a gaming PC

Bushido wrote:

Templeton7|RFC wrote:Pics would be nice, when you're done obviously.

Sure. Unless I fuck it up and it explodes.

Never know. Best get you a good cooling fan son.

He already has sufficient cooling.

What settings do you currently play DayZ at?

And what settings do you hope to play at? The highest?

I've never played it but it doesn't look too graphically intense.

El_indian wrote:He already has sufficient cooling.

What settings do you currently play DayZ at?

And what settings do you hope to play at? The highest?

I've never played it but it doesn't look too graphically intense.

I'll like play it on medium for fps issues it has, it also completely relies on a good CPU. The Standalone I'll likely be able to run on high settings though as with it being its own game it removes a lot of Arma II's character problems (reason why the Zombies aren't great.)

No game like that runs off just a CPU.

Sure you'll need a decent CPU but it's all about the GPU man - it's rendering graphics.

You should play it first without installing your graphics card and see how much of a difference it makes.

El_indian wrote:No game like that runs off just a CPU.

Sure you'll need a decent CPU but it's all about the GPU man - it's rendering graphics.

You should play it first without installing your graphics card and see how much of a difference it makes.

Of course it runs with the need of graphics... but I mean the game is more CPU dependent due to the amount going on in the game.

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So it appears Scan.co.uk are fucking me around a bit.

I've ordered the 1GB XFX Radeon HD 7770 and the 4gb RAM from them but they wont ship the 4GB RAM until the GFX card is in stock. Does anybody know the GFX which is a step up from the 7770 and will also work on this Mobo: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX)

Hopefully somebody can help me out soon.

I've found this 'VTX3D AMD Radeon HD 7850 X-Edition Graphics Card' for fairly cheap but my friend has mentioned I could bottle neck the GFX. My CPU is an AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Processor Socket AM3, 3.4 GHz, Quad core, 6 MB L3 Cache.

Will it bottle neck? I'm really hoping not..

Radeon 7850 is the next step up, cheapest available is £126 from Scan.co.uk

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7850-core-edition-4800mhz-gddr5-gpu-860mhz-dl-dvi-i-2-xmini-dp

Bottlenecking etc can't really be determined until you try it, have a quick google and see if anyone has reviewed it. The 8750 is statistically much better than the 7770. So if the 8750 bottlenecks, so would the 7770?

OT: Is there a way to 'beat' Day Z, or do you just stay alive for as long as possible?

Bye_Ya wrote:OT: Is there a way to 'beat' Day Z, or do you just stay alive for as long as possible?

There is no 'endgame' it's a sandbox game, imagination is key.

Bushido wrote:So it appears Scan.co.uk are fucking me around a bit.

I've ordered the 1GB XFX Radeon HD 7770 and the 4gb RAM from them but they wont ship the 4GB RAM until the GFX card is in stock. Does anybody know the GFX which is a step up from the 7770 and will also work on this Mobo: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX)

Hopefully somebody can help me out soon.

I've found this 'VTX3D AMD Radeon HD 7850 X-Edition Graphics Card' for fairly cheap but my friend has mentioned I could bottle neck the GFX. My CPU is an AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Processor Socket AM3, 3.4 GHz, Quad core, 6 MB L3 Cache.

Will it bottle neck? I'm really hoping not..

here's a good graphics card chart: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Also just google search for people using that CPU together with that graphics card.

I think it should be fine.

Bushido wrote:

Bye_Ya wrote:OT: Is there a way to 'beat' Day Z, or do you just stay alive for as long as possible?

There is no 'endgame' it's a sandbox game, imagination is key.

Cool. Seen some videos. Would be fun with a crew.

How did you get on, Bushido?

Any pics for us?

Templeton7|RFC wrote:How did you get on, Bushido?

Any pics for us?

Yeah I sorted it a few days ago, no point in pics, nobody will care

Of the finished build? Yeah they will.

Yeah man open it up and take pics.

Probably later in the week, me and my mate Stu are too busy on Dayz.

Just ordered this:

Case	Fractal Define R3
Mobo	MSI Z77A-G43
CPU	i5-3570k
Cooler	ThermalTake Contac 21
Graphics	VTX3D Radeon HD 7870 (Tahiti LE)
PSU	750W XFX XXX Edition (Modular)
HDD	1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm
SSD	120GB PNY XLR8
RAM	Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4) 1600MHz DDR3 CL9
Monitor	23" 1080p LG IPS234V-PN (kind of skimped on this one, I'm waiting for 2560x1440 to go down)
Keyboard	SteelSeries 6Gv2 Mechanical
Mouse	CM Storm Xornet

After spending countless hours looking around I think I got everything for pretty decent price. Looking forward to putting it together.

Solid.

What are you doing on it?

did you have a budget? You could have got the newer version of that case with the window...

Nice Royal, not a fan of the case. But hey, personal preference.

Very solid build though.

I'm sure we can trust you for pics.

El_indian wrote:Solid.

What are you doing on it?

did you have a budget? You could have got the newer version of that case with the window...

Gaming and content creation will be the most intensive things. I was going for ideally around £900 with an absolute max of £1000; it came to £945.69 which I'm happy with.

Also considering there is little difference between the R3 and R4 cases, I didn't think the upgrade was worth £25.

Templeton7|RFC wrote:Nice Royal, not a fan of the case. But hey, personal preference.

Very solid build though.

I'm sure we can trust you for pics.

Of course. I should have everything on Wednesday, or maybe 2 months because I think Scan automatically put my delivery address to match my billing address.
I'll have to ring up tomorrow morning before they get chance to dispatch it.

Also you overclocking?

I've never used a mechanical keyboard before but they sound awesome and I want one.

What color are your switches?

Nice Royal

El_indian wrote:Also you overclocking?

I've never used a mechanical keyboard before but they sound awesome and I want one.

What color are your switches?

I will be yes. It would be silly for me not to now that I've bought the unlocked i5 and an aftermarket cooler. Though what I'll probably do is see how high I can stabalise the CPU and GPU on stock voltages then leave them at that for a while, I don't really want to be playing around with something I don't know much about.

They are blacks and I've never used one either so I'm hoping it will be worth it.
I didn't plan on buying one but I came across it at £50 which is incredibly cheap for mechanical, especially one with a numpad. It's a shame it looks a bit shit but at that price I can't really complain, form after function right?

Royal wrote:

El_indian wrote:Also you overclocking?

I've never used a mechanical keyboard before but they sound awesome and I want one.

What color are your switches?

I will be yes. It would be silly for me not to now that I've bought the unlocked i5 and an aftermarket cooler. Though what I'll probably do is see how high I can stabalise the CPU and GPU on stock voltages then leave them at that for a while, I don't really want to be playing around with something I don't know much about.

They are blacks and I've never used one either so I'm hoping it will be worth it.
I didn't plan on buying one but I came across it at £50 which is incredibly cheap for mechanical, especially one with a numpad. It's a shame it looks a bit shit but at that price I can't really complain, form after function right?

Most definitely.

Jela, what are you running?

So yeah, the graphics card doesn't work, nor does the power button on the case and I got sent 1333MHz RAM instead of the 1600 I paid for. This is going well.

Majorly ripped off


Where did you get them from?

Graphics card from Aria, case from Scan and RAM from Amazon.

Have they all accepted returns? Dead on arrival components are pretty frequent, unfortunately.

I haven't filed any RMA requests yet. I think my graphics card is actually working, I just plugged it into my monitor and I can get into BIOS fine. Earlier I was using my TV and nothing was happening, only the fan attempted to spin but would stop after a second. I'm guessing it's because my TV was forcing it to render at 1080p which maybe it can't without any drivers installed, as opposed the monitor's method of running at the max resolution as decided by the input device.

RAM I'm not so sure about. The packaging it came in states 1600MHz but my BIOS is reporting 1333MHz, I'll see what it says when I get an OS on there. EDIT: Apparently it's normal for this processor to set RAM to 1333Mhz by default. No issue here then.

I still think the power button on the case is fucked though. It's either that or the corresponding connector on the motherboard is fucked, but then why would it work when I short it with a screwdriver? I'll test it on a friend's case tomorrow to confirm which it is.

Royal wrote:I haven't filed any RMA requests yet. I think my graphics card is actually working, I just plugged it into my monitor and I can get into BIOS fine. Earlier I was using my TV and nothing was happening, only the fan attempted to spin but would stop after a second. I'm guessing it's because my TV was forcing it to render at 1080p which maybe it can't without any drivers installed, as opposed the monitor's method of running at the max resolution as decided by the input device.

RAM I'm not so sure about. The packaging it came in states 1600MHz but my BIOS is reporting 1333MHz, I'll see what it says when I get an OS on there. EDIT: Apparently it's normal for this processor to set RAM to 1333Mhz by default. No issue here then.

I still think the power button on the case is fucked though. It's either that or the corresponding connector on the motherboard is fucked, but then why would it work when I short it with a screwdriver? I'll test it on a friend's case tomorrow to confirm which it is.

Quick point on the RAM, some times it needs to be overclocked to reach certain speeds if you check the manual or whatever site you bought it from. The motherboard might state something like "Support for 1333+ (O.C.)/1066 MHz memory modules".

See here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-415-GI&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=